So the thing that activated Cyborg in his cameo was the dc movie universe version of a mother box? I did not realize that.

Snyder on the deleted scenes: http://collider.com/batman-v-superma...-directors-cut

Sometimes shitty movies make money, even big money.

As much as I liked Man of Steel, this movie was one long ass cluster****. Wouldn't exactly call it a bad movie, but it's not a good movie by a long shot.

i truly believe peoples perception of this film will change towards the positive as time goes on. I actually liked they did it this way since this is the beginning of DC's line of movies.. solid base and can only go up from here.

i didn't read your comment but practically said the same thing haha.

This.

Yeah I'm not sold on this Lex

It did that a little too well for me. I was sitting there wishing I was watching the inevitable Batman backstory movie with the Joker and Robin references.

Wonder Woman is rumored to be five thousand years old in the movie universe. She comes from a culture where combat is a central pillar. She's a trained warrior that by her own admission has killed monsters from other worlds before and she has weapons forged by magic. If she's not superman's equal in strength she's not far behind. She just doesn't have some of his other powers, like heat vision and flight.

Basically she's what superman would be if he was a trained warrior...

You've seen in both movies how he's almost solely reliant on his powers. Batman just destroyed him when the kryptonite was active. He doesn't seem to have much of a clue how to actually fight with any technique. So he can beat the he'll out of vanilla humans but has issues in fights against other beings with power, be it zod or doomsday. Which is I hope an intentional choice of the filmmakers and something that changes over time. It's one way to develop a character that is really pretty bland on his own.

Which is also what I think they're trying to do by making Lois his moral compass rather than his parents, one of the things people complain the most about in both movies.

Which is why i loved the animated series and movies.

they show he always is holding back. Always. I think it was the jla doom movie. Darkseid is attacking. And supes is bleeding and looks and just thanks Darkseid. Thanks him for being the first person that can take it. First person he doesnt have to hold back on. Then supes unleashes his rage from all the years and battles and beats the **** out of him.

it was enjoyable. It also the reason why jla fails. Because most of their big characters are godlike.

The B vs S fight was so cool.

Basically Batman used his wits and when Superman had no powers Batman stomped him.

But when Superman had his powers, Batman got his ass kicked hard

I was going to avoid this because I didn't like the trailers and the reviews were so bad. My daughter wanted to see it bad so I took her. I enjoyed it for the most part. It was probably a bit too long but I'm surprised it got hammered so hard.