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Rain Man 02-25-2019 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by wheeler08 (Post 14122914)
How do we tell if the system thinks a player is good or not? Is there a rating system like Madden? Or is everyone a clean slate and you just have to know every player in NFL if they are good or not and the only info is their stats?
Like for instance, we could argue if Eric Fisher is shit or not, but he made the pro bowl. What does sandbox think of Fisher?

We have top-secret algorithms for that. So there's definitely some subjectivity there. Also, there may be players who are rated lower and have more upside or vice versa. So it's possible that some of the players in the "star" draft may be declining, and there may be some free agents floating around who are ascending.

Part of this is that it's subjective, but another part is so to spur free agent and trade activity.

wheeler08 02-25-2019 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by carlos3652 (Post 14122917)
In!

Royal Oak Golden Knights from Michigan

We should be division rivals. Crown Point, IN Railsplitters! Or at least I think that’s the name I chose lol

wheeler08 02-25-2019 09:51 AM

So there is a rating system?

carlos3652 02-25-2019 10:06 AM

Im really excited about this, I feel like its been years since we played. Thanks for making it a reality Rain Man / Cd Cox!

carlos3652 02-25-2019 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by wheeler08 (Post 14122920)
We should be division rivals. Crown Point, IN Railsplitters! Or at least I think that’s the name I chose lol

I was overwhelmed with the amount of cities / names available - Cant wait to see where the teams are placed.

DJ's left nut 02-25-2019 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by wheeler08 (Post 14122914)
How do we tell if the system thinks a player is good or not? Is there a rating system like Madden? Or is everyone a clean slate and you just have to know every player in NFL if they are good or not and the only info is their stats?
Like for instance, we could argue if Eric Fisher is shit or not, but he made the pro bowl. What does sandbox think of Fisher?

Alex Smith was a god among men for a season or 2 there. This all happened long enough ago that I believe it was PRIOR to his Chiefs tenure so I guess Rainman just had a hard on for him.

But Smith was borderline Mahomesian for a season in one of those divisions.

MagicHef 02-25-2019 11:54 AM

Issaquah Crows have been founded.

Rain Man 02-25-2019 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by wheeler08 (Post 14122924)
So there is a rating system?

Yeah. You can expect player performance to generally mirror their performance of the past NFL season, with several variables. First, they'll have different teammates, which makes a difference, and you may have a different game plan for them, and they'll face different opponents and schemes, and then of course there's some random variation.

Injuries from the past season are also modeled, on a full game basis. If you draft a player who missed the last eight NFL games because he got turf toe, then he'll miss those games for you as well.

You may feel free to insert an Eric Berry joke at this point.

wheeler08 02-25-2019 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 14123317)
Yeah. You can expect player performance to generally mirror their performance of the past NFL season, with several variables. First, they'll have different teammates, which makes a difference, and you may have a different game plan for them, and they'll face different opponents and schemes, and then of course there's some random variation.

Injuries from the past season are also modeled, on a full game basis. If you draft a player who missed the last eight NFL games because he got turf toe, then he'll miss those games for you as well.

You may feel free to insert an Eric Berry joke at this point.

Is Kareem Hunt suspended?? Lol

lewdog 02-25-2019 01:31 PM

Am I reading it correct that it’s 1 hour to pick once draft starts? So when Billay picks at 11 pm and I’m sleeping, I’ll be screwed?

Hammock Parties 02-25-2019 01:37 PM

KING CARL IS HERE AND HAS PAID HIS FRANCHISE FEE

Rain Man 02-25-2019 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by lewdog (Post 14123361)
Am I reading it correct that it’s 1 hour to pick once draft starts? So when Billay picks at 11 pm and I’m sleeping, I’ll be screwed?

We'll take off during typical sleeping hours. cdcox will know the exact hours that the board clock stops.

But this is a good advertisement for having your draft board up to date. If you're not around, it'll take the top guy on your draft board when your time is up. If you don't have a draft board, it'll make a decision itself.

Hammock Parties 02-25-2019 01:44 PM

The Aberdeen Anarchy have been founded.

Hammock Parties 02-25-2019 01:45 PM

Oooh yeah, I remember these menus. I'm jonesing hard!

Rain Man 02-25-2019 01:47 PM

20 teams now. Four more and the draft begins!

Titty Meat 02-25-2019 01:56 PM

I'll draft Alex Smith and name my offense "3 yards and a cloud of cuck" Just for Clay.

Hammock Parties 02-25-2019 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Titty Meat (Post 14123392)
I'll draft Alex Smith and name my offense "3 yards and a cloud of outstanding citizen" Just for Clay.

He’s going to get hurt

wheeler08 02-25-2019 02:06 PM

You say the draft begins....Should I be able to add to my draft queue right now? As shown in the draft video on the website? Because I'm not currently able to...
Or do you have to assign the mid tier players to a team first?

MagicHef 02-25-2019 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 14123317)
Yeah. You can expect player performance to generally mirror their performance of the past NFL season, with several variables. First, they'll have different teammates, which makes a difference, and you may have a different game plan for them, and they'll face different opponents and schemes, and then of course there's some random variation.

Injuries from the past season are also modeled, on a full game basis. If you draft a player who missed the last eight NFL games because he got turf toe, then he'll miss those games for you as well.

You may feel free to insert an Eric Berry joke at this point.

Where are the stats from? Are they fully objective, or do any subjective ratings like PFF factor in?

DJ's left nut 02-25-2019 03:05 PM

Hey rainman,

My buddy that's not on CP (who was in the league with me last time) has set up his team under "Kelce Lately" but is stuck in a meeting now and hasn't given his $1 yet. Can you go ahead and plug him in there to make sure this one doesn't get filled up and he gets stuck in a different league? Thankya sir.

Titty Meat 02-25-2019 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 14123398)
He’s going to get hurt

After he drops the trophy on his foot.

Hammock Parties 02-25-2019 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Titty Meat (Post 14123529)
After he drops the trophy on his foot.

Actually no...if I remember if a player wasn't available for a week IRL...he's not available in Sandbox.

Rain Man 02-25-2019 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 14123510)
Hey rainman,

My buddy that's not on CP (who was in the league with me last time) has set up his team under "Kelce Lately" but is stuck in a meeting now and hasn't given his $1 yet. Can you go ahead and plug him in there to make sure this one doesn't get filled up and he gets stuck in a different league? Thankya sir.

Hmm, I'd need cdcox to handle that level of work. If your pal can hurry up, that would be best, but I'll ask cdcox. I'm not sure when he'll be available. We've still got three openings left, so hopefully he can run in and do it.

Rain Man 02-25-2019 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by wheeler08 (Post 14123399)
You say the draft begins....Should I be able to add to my draft queue right now? As shown in the draft video on the website? Because I'm not currently able to...
Or do you have to assign the mid tier players to a team first?

The mid-tier players will show up immediately once the league hits 24 teams. We've talked about changing that to assign them immediately and let teams do their draft boards while they're waiting. I think that would be a site improvement.

Once the league fills, we'll do a 24 hour countdown to pick one, and teams will see their mid-tier rosters at that point and be able to start their draft boarding.

Rain Man 02-25-2019 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by MagicHef (Post 14123467)
Where are the stats from? Are they fully objective, or do any subjective ratings like PFF factor in?

We're keeping our sources on the down low, in order to minimize any gamesmanship when we go commercial.

DJ's left nut 02-25-2019 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 14123665)
Hmm, I'd need cdcox to handle that level of work. If your pal can hurry up, that would be best, but I'll ask cdcox. I'm not sure when he'll be available. We've still got three openings left, so hopefully he can run in and do it.

He's in now. Hasn't been assigned to a league yet but it doesn't look like Chiefs1 is full either so he should be okay. I checked his login and he doesn't have a direct link to the Chiefs1 message board nor is he showing up as a member, so I suspect he just needs to get the 'invite' from CD and all will be well.

Rain Man 02-25-2019 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 14123706)
He's in now. Hasn't been assigned to a league yet but it doesn't look like Chiefs1 is full either so he should be okay. I checked his login and he doesn't have a direct link to the Chiefs1 message board nor is he showing up as a member, so I suspect he just needs to get the 'invite' from CD and all will be well.

Cool. As long as he paid his dollar and picked a team name, he should be good.

wheeler08 02-25-2019 04:55 PM

How many teams we up to?

Rain Man 02-25-2019 04:56 PM

23 teams in. One more and the ride starts.

DJ's left nut 02-25-2019 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 14123744)
23 teams in. One more and the ride starts.

He says he's paid his dollar and his handle is actually listed on the member list; just hasn't been put in an actual league yet. When he gets added, that'll put 24 in Chiefs1.

Eh, I'm sure it'll be fine. I'd guess CD just doesn't recognize his name and it'll get sorted out soon enough.

TambaBerry 02-25-2019 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 14123754)
He says he's paid his dollar and his handle is actually listed on the member list; just hasn't been put in an actual league yet. When he gets added, that'll put 24 in Chiefs1.

Eh, I'm sure it'll be fine. I'd guess CD just doesn't recognize his name and it'll get sorted out soon enough.

it should be automatic

DJ's left nut 02-25-2019 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by TambaBerry (Post 14123816)
it should be automatic

Figured it out; he hadn't chosen his team location/name yet.

He's in now so we're at 24.

DJ's left nut 02-25-2019 05:44 PM

Looks like we even have partial rosters uploaded already once the league filled. Nice.

Hammock Parties 02-25-2019 05:49 PM

LMAO

I forgot I made the tutorial videos for this.

DJ's left nut 02-25-2019 05:49 PM

Not only did Rainman not give me 1.1. He put me in the same division as the sumbitch who got him.

So for the next 10 years I will be tortured by Patrick Mahomes.

That's just mean, man...

Hammock Parties 02-25-2019 05:50 PM

WOOO SET YOUR DRAFT BOARDS BABEEEEEEEEEEEEE

Pick #10 aw yiss

Hammock Parties 02-25-2019 05:53 PM

So...why do I have players on my team?

DJ's left nut 02-25-2019 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 14123842)
WOOO SET YOUR DRAFT BOARDS BABEEEEEEEEEEEEE

Pick #10 aw yiss

19. Well **** me sideways.

Is there a time of the day when the 60 minute clock shuts down? Telling folks picking at 4 in the morning that they have 60 minutes seems a little...dogmatic.

lewdog 02-25-2019 05:56 PM

Is this easy to do on your phone?

DJ's left nut 02-25-2019 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 14123848)
So...why do I have players on my team?

New setup fills in about half our rosters for us; essentially chaff (though some aren't complete garbage).

lewdog 02-25-2019 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 14123852)
19. Well **** me sideways.

Is there a time of the day when the 60 minute clock shuts down? Telling folks picking at 4 in the morning that they have 60 minutes seems a little...dogmatic.

Q

TambaBerry 02-25-2019 06:00 PM

Whoever picks mahomes, i will give you whateveryou want for him

Rain Man 02-25-2019 06:00 PM

Looks like we have an error on the trading block side, so stay out of that neighborhood until we get it fixed.

But in case you're interested, Matt Cassel is available for trade from the Denver Ermines.

Hammock Parties 02-25-2019 06:01 PM

I've already scored a few decent players.

Richard Sherman
Vic Beasley
Frank Gore

Maybe Keanu Neal will pay off a year from now.

Rain Man 02-25-2019 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by TambaBerry (Post 14123858)
Whoever picks mahomes, i will give you whateveryou want for him

I can give you a pretty good theory on who your potential trade partner is.

DJ's left nut 02-25-2019 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 14123861)
I've already scored a few decent players.

Richard Sherman
Vic Beasley
Frank Gore

Maybe Keanu Neal will pay off a year from now.

Somebody appears to have snagged Dee Ford as an auto-assign. I mean damn - that's not a bad bit o' roster chaff to get.

I haven't combed through mine but I think the best I've got is !@#$ing Tannehill...

EDIT: Suggs is nice and a handful of solid DTs in Poe, Malcom Brown, Shamar Stephen and Danny Shelton. And it's as though Sandbox is mocking me - my only 1st round pick from the original article, Kyle Long, back for another run...

lewdog 02-25-2019 06:03 PM

My roster is shit.

And how come it says I’m pick 26 when we only have 24 teams? I’m seeing like 600 teams in that draft list.

Hammock Parties 02-25-2019 06:06 PM

So what's the deal...do I have to sign these players to keep them?

DJ's left nut 02-25-2019 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by lewdog (Post 14123866)
My roster is shit.

And how come it says I’m pick 26 when we only have 24 teams? I’m seeing like 600 teams in that draft list.

Snake draft; so you should be at 23 as well.

Rain Man 02-25-2019 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 14123871)
So what's the deal...do I have to sign these players to keep them?

Once we finish the draft, you'll sign all of your players to contracts, both your base roster now and the guys you draft. Those contracts are non-competititive.

But we'll also have the free agency period so you can dump anyone you don't want if you find some available players who are better. So conserve some money for free agency bidding.

Rain Man 02-25-2019 06:11 PM

We have an error when clicking directly on another team name and we're working on that. But in the meantime, you can also select "League Roster" in the pulldown under your team name, and you can see every team's roster. (It's sortable by team, position, name, etc.)

Rain Man 02-25-2019 06:13 PM

Who's Joplin? How much draft capital do I need to trade up from #22 to #1 in the first round? I'm willing to put Matt Cassel in the deal to give you a quarterback.

Rain Man 02-25-2019 06:16 PM

Do NOT sign your players to contracts right now. Remember that you have to sign the players that you draft, too. So don't spend all your money on your backups.

Jewish Rabbi 02-25-2019 06:18 PM

How does the draft board work? These players seem to be going over there in a random order no matter the order of how I have added them. What am I doing wrong?

Hammock Parties 02-25-2019 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Jewish Rabbi (Post 14123885)
How does the draft board work? These players seem to be going over there in a random order no matter the order of how I have added them. What am I doing wrong?

You can drag them around. It's not 100% smooth but it works.

Jewish Rabbi 02-25-2019 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 14123888)
You can drag them around. It's not 100% smooth but it works.

Thanks.

I reloaded the page and everything is in the order I selected them as well. Glitch?

Rain Man 02-25-2019 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Jewish Rabbi (Post 14123885)
How does the draft board work? These players seem to be going over there in a random order no matter the order of how I have added them. What am I doing wrong?

Hmm, something's not working there. Some of the software updates caused glitches, and maybe this is one we haven't found. I'll let Chris know. In the meantime, you can move players over, and we'll (Chris'll) get the dragging capability working again.

Once it's working, you can drag players up and down the draft board in the order you want them.

Hammock Parties 02-25-2019 06:25 PM

I just refreshed my draft page and they're in the order I want them.

Rain Man 02-25-2019 06:26 PM

Yeah, something's definitely glitchy. I can get them to move, but it's erratic. We'll work on it.

mcaj22 02-25-2019 06:28 PM

I can sign in with my old username or do I have to completely re-register?

Rain Man 02-25-2019 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 14123895)
I just refreshed my draft page and they're in the order I want them.

It does seem like it's working, just not ideally. Refresh the page frequently, people, while we investigate.

Rain Man 02-25-2019 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by mcaj22 (Post 14123899)
I can sign in with my old username or do I have to completely re-register?

I doubt that you can do that. I think you'll have to re-register.

wheeler08 02-25-2019 06:50 PM

So the undrafted available, that’s not in any kind of rating order 1-7xx? Unless I sort by position or name? Or is Vinaterri #1 rated player?

lewdog 02-25-2019 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 14123873)
Snake draft; so you should be at 23 as well.

IM a ****ing idiot.

I’m sorry.

Hammock Parties 02-25-2019 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by wheeler08 (Post 14123926)
So the undrafted available, that’s not in any kind of rating order 1-7xx? Unless I sort by position or name? Or is Vinaterri #1 rated player?

It's pretty random.

Rukdafaidas 02-25-2019 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 14123879)
Who's Joplin? How much draft capital do I need to trade up from #22 to #1 in the first round? I'm willing to put Matt Cassel in the deal to give you a quarterback.

Sounds tempting, but I'm going to hold off for now. ROFL

Rain Man 02-25-2019 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by wheeler08 (Post 14123926)
So the undrafted available, that’s not in any kind of rating order 1-7xx? Unless I sort by position or name? Or is Vinaterri #1 rated player?

It's in descending order by player ID, which correlates to years in the league. So the default is years, but you can sort it as you wish.

Rain Man 02-25-2019 07:10 PM

I think my top four in-house players are:

Marcell Dareus
Aqib Talib
Taysom Hill as a gadget
Marquise Goodwin

I've got a few high-pick young guys who have been hurt, like Forrest Lamp, Vernon Hargreaves, and Shane Ray. I need those guys to step up.

lewdog 02-25-2019 07:10 PM

And what about some sort of depth chart? Or do I need to create my own to develop a sufficient roster. In fantasy football, your depth chart fills in as you draft so you can easily see needed positions.

/I know this isn't fantasy football but......

Hammock Parties 02-25-2019 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by lewdog (Post 14123959)
And what about some sort of depth chart? Or do I need to create my own to develop a sufficient roster. In fantasy football, your depth chart fills in as you draft so you can easily see needed positions.

/I know this isn't fantasy football but......

As soon as your roster is complete you will be able to set depth chart and assign minutiae to your heart's content.

The gameplanning is amazing.

wheeler08 02-25-2019 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by lewdog (Post 14123959)
And what about some sort of depth chart? Or do I need to create my own to develop a sufficient roster. In fantasy football, your depth chart fills in as you draft so you can easily see needed positions.

/I know this isn't fantasy football but......

Probably have to do like I do when we do our fantasy football at the bar. I just take a piece of paper and write down my starting positions then have a list of bench.
For this you could draw out 11 on 11 on the field and do your depth at each position. Kinda like they show the starters some times on tv

lewdog 02-25-2019 07:19 PM

Notables on the Diablos

Joe Flacco (Donkey Trash)
Cam Robinson
EJ Gaines
Justin Davis (love him)
Randall Cobb
Xavier Rhodes

Hammock Parties 02-25-2019 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by wheeler08 (Post 14123966)
Probably have to do like I do when we do our fantasy football at the bar. I just take a piece of paper and write down my starting positions then have a list of bench.
For this you could draw out 11 on 11 on the field and do your depth at each position. Kinda like they show the starters some times on tv

No. You set your depth chart up in the menus.

Everything is done online for you here.

lewdog 02-25-2019 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 14123965)
As soon as your roster is complete you will be able to set depth chart and assign minutiae to your heart's content.

The gameplanning is amazing.

Quote:

Originally Posted by wheeler08 (Post 14123966)
Probably have to do like I do when we do our fantasy football at the bar. I just take a piece of paper and write down my starting positions then have a list of bench.
For this you could draw out 11 on 11 on the field and do your depth at each position. Kinda like they show the starters some times on tv

I get that Clay but I mean knowing my positions while drafting. Knowing what I have left or depth I need. I need to track on my own it appears? I don't see a current functioning depth chart that fills in while drafting?

Good idea Wheeler, looks like that's in order.

Now to make something I remember to take back and forth to work each day. LOL

wheeler08 02-25-2019 07:28 PM

I guess having the 20th pick comes with getting a few good mid tier players.
Maybe you've heard of these guys?
Earl Thomas
Joey "are u serious?" Bosa
Ronald Darby
and now taking trade offers, Alex fucking Smith!!!! TITTY MEAT this is directed at You!!

wheeler08 02-25-2019 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by lewdog (Post 14123977)
I get that Clay but I mean knowing my positions while drafting. Knowing what I have left or depth I need. I need to track on my own it appears? I don't see a current functioning depth chart that fills in while drafting?

Good idea Wheeler, looks like that's in order.

Now to make something I remember to take back and forth to work each day. LOL

Maybe something like this
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...backer.svg.png

TambaBerry 02-25-2019 07:36 PM

You guys got way luckier then I did on players. The ones I was randomly assigned suck

cdcox 02-25-2019 07:41 PM

Hi everyone. I just got home from work and have reviewed the thread and the software. There are a few issues to address, principle among them the fact that the 2018 rookies will be part of this draft, but are not showing up yet. That will be fixed momentarily.

Titty Meat 02-25-2019 07:43 PM

My roster is sooo trash LMAO

lewdog 02-25-2019 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Titty Meat (Post 14124010)
My roster is sooo trash LMAO

Consider the source.....


your mom.


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