Daniel Jeremiah: Many expect Chiefs to trade up for a CB
 

Not real surprising, but from here: http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap300...oking-to-trade

Trade who? What?

Two years wasted trying to talk sense into a knucklehead, and here we are.

So we're not trading up for a TE. Kinda disappoint

I have always thought, especially ever since Veach made that comment about trading up, that it is just a question a having a CB he really likes fall a bit and having the opportunity to trade up.

Veach definitly needs to pick up a top CB from this draft, after having traded Peters.

They are talking about trading up from the bottom to the top of the 2nd round. They don't usually trade a player to do that. Their second pick in the 3rd round would probably be enough, maybe throw in a 6th.

Justin Houston, reports from Paylor were that Peters and he were close friends and Justin had a problem with how his trade was dealt.

It goes along with the "right attitude" Veach has been citing.

I just don't see how Veach doesn't somehow trades this year the 2019 2nd round pick acquired from the Rams.

Aren't we trading into the top 10 to pick a LG?

If it's one thing I know, its that every report that comes out the two weeks prior to the draft is definitely factual.

i hope so

CB and DL are the 2 biggest immediate needs right now. However...

I think they're going to trade up into the beginning of 2nd rd and select OG Will Hernandez. Fisher, Hernandez, Morse, LDT, Schwartz would be a fine OL wk1...assuming Morse's bitchass can stay healthy.

I think right now, the Chiefs main goal is to protect Mahomes and give him ALL of the weapons and protection he needs for him to immediately successful, because the Chiefs need him to be.

Before we trade up for a CB or TE, I think it's about time we trade up for better Cheerleaders! We got dogs!

I saw we swap 10 of ours for 1-2 of the Cowboys or Dolphins with their first round pick.

or Rams or Chargers....I'm sure LA can churn out some good pussy.

I would actually love that.

This was just as dumb the first time you said it as it is now

ROFL

That gif....

Seriously the "stereotypical midwestern hillbillies" vibe in those 2 *edit* 3..is literally off the charts ROFL. And people wonder why it's called Camarohead.

Jesus. this will never get old I hysterically lose my shit everytime I see it. ROFL

You know they arrived in a rusted out El Camino. No ****ing way they didn't drive in anything else and if so, I refuse to believe/accept it as truth.

If some other team wants to try to swim with Houston's millstone of a contract tied around their neck, they are welcome to take him on and try.

And that's the Fisher pick right?

You forgot the 18 pack of crushed Busch Light cans that fall out when they birth out the doors. "Why not Coors light?", you ask. Cuz F**k Colorado, thats why.

The only draft picks that get Chiefs fans out of their seats are o-lineman drafted way higher than they should be.

A few thoughts.

1. We are not one CB away from fielding a competent denfense, if we were by all means push the chips into the center of the table and go all in.

2. Yeah we need a starting CB, but we also need a ton of youth on the defensive side of the football. Having 5 of the first 125 picks could go a long way in providing this team with the defensive depth it needs.

3. Its not 2018 or bust. If you add solid defensive players (lets say our send and two third rounders) on defense, then next year you can add a playmaker since we will have a 1st and two second round picks.

4. Frankly hitting on picks #54, #78 & #86 would be > going all in on pick #32 IMO.

Let Veach do his work. There is no reason to do something stupid and go all in on a player drafted at the end of the first round.

I'd give our 2019 1st rounder and this years 3rd, 4th 6th and 7th for Nelson.

That dude is legit at a spot we're weak in

This

Jesus ****ing Christ you're a ****ing moron.

I mean just...wow.

:facepalm:

Or we could just draft an interior lineman in the 5th or 6th. Reid seems to know what he's doing with OLinemen.

we don't have a 5th so you suck.

It's the 32nd pick dumbass. Good value for a top 5 player. ****ing moron!

What if I told you we could trade a 2019 2nd to move from 54 to either 35 (Dorsey) or 37 (Ballard) while keeping our picks this year?

I'm still saying it till disproven

Not sure where else to put this....



Chad Forbes
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Multiple Folks saying #Bills #Giants #Browns working on 3 Team Trade... Browns would slide to 2nd, Bills would land 1st Overall & Giants would slide to 4th or 12th. Heard it from few people.... Browns would be monetizing taking Josh Allen... Remember, it's silly season...

Houston’s so upset he showed up to workouts this offseason when he didn’t last year.

If the Browns are stupid enough to take Josh Allen, they might as well go for a trade like that.

Till we know how Veach runs the draft, the point still stands

When did he say this?

Houston so mad that he showed up for day 1?

What point? That you're reaching with a garbage opinion again? You think Justin Houston and a massive contract have any trade value?

The Buccaneers will be open for business trying to recoup that 3rd round pick they gave away to the Giants for 1 year of average DE play.

There are a plethora of decent CB's in this class so I see no reason why we should trade up tbh.

Ward= will be gone
Joshua Jackson= will be gone
Alexander= will be gone
Oliver= could be gone
Donte Jackson= could be gone
Hughes= could be gone

After that we could easily find ourselves being able to get Davis, Mcfadden, Averett, Hill etc. So I wouldn't feel inclined to trade away a 3rd or next years second round pick just to go up a few places.

Why would they do that? They lose a year and most likely spots in the round.

How would giants get the 4th?

Browns move both their firsts?

I expect it would be for Oliver or Davis.

Mike Hughes? Or you think he'll be gone by the 35-40 range?

Hughes is the CB I want

Id laugh so hard if Dorsey was able to get another team to move ahead of him for a qb he doesn't want. I genuinely dont understand the Allen hype, and cant understand Dorsey wanting him after the other qbs he's had a hand in drafting and been around. Would be a great move by the browns.

Bc they both have multiple early 2nd rd picks. Browns have 33/35 and Colts have 36/37.

Dorsey just loves picks and Ballard has an enormous rebuild to do.

You don’t think either team would like to pick early in rd 2, move down to 54 with their second 2nd rd pick, stay in rd 2 and get 2nd rd pick next season?

Don’t forget Jaire Alexander

You said keep all our picks this year didn't you?

never mind im a dumbass

I’ve been seeing him in the top 20 of all the mocks lately

I think he goes late 1st round

Hughes or Davis I’d think

I could see that, damnit. I want him. But I'd be good with Davis or Oliver. I like Davis a little better.

Fuller-Davis/Oliver-Nelson-Amerson would be a solid Top 4 CBs. Especially if Nelson can stay healthy and return to 2016 form. I don't expect 2015 Amerson but hopefully he's serviceable.

Jaire is the cornerback I've been pulling for all off season- seems like he is getting a bit of a boost lately in all of the mock drafts I've looked at. Could be the 2nd CB off the board after Denzel Ward, ahead of Joshua Jackson which is somewhat surprising.

If Jaire slips though I would love for Veach to make a move.

Mike Hughes/Jaire Alexander aren't making it past the Buccaneers 2nd round pick.

Me to, thalks

Giving up assets to replace a player we had on the cheap. Clown franchise.

Clown poster

Durr hurr hurr.

Well, it is silly to give up the lone decent pick the team got for him to move up and grab a lesser player replacement with the only decent pick in this draft.

Not a very nice post bud.

We drafted a QB in the first. Who cares what happens for the next 5 drafts

i do - I also bet the farm we move up - possibly even into the first.

Didn't Daniel Jeremih do that song "Borthday Sex"

He was also a bullfrog by my understanding.

Truth hurts.

He's right, though. We gave up a young, lockdown corner on his rookie deal for fairly little. How much will we have to give up to replace his production? One would hope it isn't too much, but I doubt that's the case.

1) Veach has a twinkle in his eye when he said the chiefs might end up in the first round

2) using the pick from Peters and a third would probably get us into the early to mid second. That’s high enough to get a good CB.

I hated the trade and still do, but we aren’t privy to the information they used to make such a tough decision.

I’ll always think that was a bad move. Having a CB that takes the ball away when we have a QB like Mahomes would have been very advantageous.

That would be idiotic as ****, so something we're capable of doing.

and this AGAIN

This team is going to score tons of points.

Tons. Probably top 5 scoring offense.

The team has 1 corner signed for 2019...and that’s the last year of his rookie deal.

This draft is stacked with CBs. 7 or 8 with first round grades.

Veach traded, tried to trade or let every single corner from last year walk.

Connect the dots here...we’re drafting 3 corners and 2 of them need to be able to not only start in a year, but play at a high level because our defense is going to be in dime a lot due to teams trying to keep up with the scoring.

I’m betting on them using next years second from the Peters trade and a third to move up to get one and then moving up again using our second and another pick this year or next to select another corner.

And I think that’s smart.

Yeah, that's not going to happen.

While I don't necessarily agree with them trading Peters, I get why they did it.

But if they turn around and package multiple(3 or more) picks to trade up into the first round to draft said replacement CB, well then that's just ****ing stupid. Hell, I'd rather see them draft 3 DB's with 3 different picks in hopes of 'hitting' on at least one . . . .

What’s wrong with going up and getting a CB?

If we add a guy like Hughes, Davis, Oliver, or Alexander this could easily be the best CB group we’ve had under Reid.

Going from 8 to 7 picks than spending nearly 50% of your draft capital on a single position is absurd. Veach should be fired out of a cannon, directly into the ****ing sun if he does that.

They don't have a starting caliber FS, a cum dumpster situation at LG, a hole at slot WR and shitty TE LB and DL depth. No way would dropping half of the draft for corners make.any ****ing sense.

I definitely wouldn’t want to give up too much though.

I think we can get one if we trade up 10-12 spots. That shouldn’t cost too much.

I imagine that Patrick Mahomes cares who we draft the next 5 drafts. He would rather not go out there with a shit team around him. KC fans shouldn't want to do to Mahomes what the Colts did to Andrew Luck either.

I don't think giving up 54+86+196 to the Redskins for 44+109 would be bad to secure a corner.

Wrecking nearly all the gains from the Alex and Peters trades to get a 1st round pick for a corner would be stupid though.

It’s all about value.

Let’s say it gets to the end of the first and Mike Hughes/Josh Jackson/Isiah Oliver are on the board and we can get one by trading with Philly by using a third this year and a second next year.

If it weren’t for the depth at the position, those guys are usually going in the top 15-20 picks of most drafts. Moving a 2 and 3 to get one is good value.

If one of the other corners is still on the board from 37-44, we can move up from 54 and get another CB that we can have on a cheap rookie deal instead of having to spend in FA for one (corners are very expensive in FA)...

If we can come out of the draft with 2 first round talent CBs, and spend 2 second rounders, a third and fourth...that’s gonna go a long way towards making this defense what we need it to be...effective in sub packages that allows Sutton to turn the pass rushers loose.

LMAO if you think Philly would even consider that trade

Try more like a 3rd and the Chiefs 2019 first, as the floor.

After 2018, we only have 1 corner signed for 2019.

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This draft is an opportunity to fortify a premium position at a huge discount