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T-post Tom 10-15-2012 10:28 PM

Chiefs coach: Steve Breaston is a backup right now
 
Chiefs coach: Steve Breaston is a backup right now

Earlier today we did this post wondering what in the heck has happened to Steve Breaston. The KC Chiefs receiver has had 10 combined snaps in the last two games. Not exactly the snaps you'd like to see from a guy over a year removed from a five-year contract.

Despite being listed ahead of Jon Baldwin on the depth chart, Breaston is a backup. This according to Romeo Crennel in Monday's press conference.

"Steve is a backup wide receiver right now," Crennel said, via comments sent out by the Chiefs. "And the number of reps he gets, I don't know how many he's going to get or when he's going to be called on and when he's going to be needed.

"And we've talked about it and I said you just have to be ready when you're called on and do the best you can when you get called. And that's the way every backup on the team has to do it. There are a lot of backups on the team that don't get reps, but if they get called on they have to go in and play."

Note that he said he's talked to Breaston about it.

This might make the upcoming trade deadline a little more interesting.

http://www.arrowheadpride.com/2012/1...ckup-right-now

Hammock Parties 10-15-2012 10:30 PM

Gotta get the guys who suck on the field, I like what Romeo is doing to make sure we go 1-15.

In58men 10-15-2012 10:31 PM

Best decision we've made all season.


I smell 1st pick

CoMoChief 10-15-2012 10:33 PM

This team has done crazier shit in recent past....but yeah I don't understand this one bit.

It'd help if we had a passing game...a QB that could spread the ball around.

But we don't....that's why it's always Bowe or McCluster/checkdown to RB.

Our TE's have been invisible this season. Moeaki just flat out sucks this season. Jon Baldwin maybe gets looked at a couple times a game.

The whole entire offense is in shambles right now....something I never would have thought at the beginning of the season. It all starts at QB and the Oline, and the Oline other than the Buffalo game hasn't really been a problem. The only bright side is Charles and yes our coaching staff has ran him into the ground at times, but they also do crazy shit like give it to Draughn a whole bunch.

Phobia 10-15-2012 10:35 PM

If only Breaston ran shorter routes.

BryanBusby 10-15-2012 10:35 PM

I sure hope Pioli continues to control the gameday lineup.....

This is ****ing reeruned.

rabblerouser 10-15-2012 10:35 PM

well, Breaston is a Haley guy, you know.

PioLLLLLi's ego dictates that Jon Baldwin drop one handed attempts to catch perfectly thrown passes...

You know, it's not a good look for old P-hole if Haley's guy winds up leading the team in catches (as he most assuredly would be at this point, were he getting DMac's reps...)

MeatRock 10-15-2012 10:36 PM

McCluster seems to be invaluable to Daboll and Romeo or Breaston took a shit in Daboll's cheerios.

rabblerouser 10-15-2012 10:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phobia (Post 9018938)
If only Breaston ran shorter routes.

Zing!

rabblerouser 10-15-2012 10:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MeatRock (Post 9018941)
McCluster seems to be invaluable to Daboll and Romeo or Breaston took a shit in Daboll's cheerios.

Naw, Breaston was Haley's guy, plain and simple. He's not gettig reps for that reason and that reason alone. Crennel is lying through his flabby tits if he thinks that no one can see that.

kushed god 10-15-2012 10:46 PM

^EXACTLY, breaston is a haley guy and pioli is just ****ing with him. hes better then mccluster and baldwin.

Titty Meat 10-15-2012 10:47 PM

Is there a guy Pioli has signed as a free agent that's been good for more than 1 season?

Priest31kc 10-15-2012 10:50 PM

Feel bad for Breaston. Just rotting away on this shit team...

rabblerouser 10-15-2012 10:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kushed god (Post 9018964)
^EXACTLY, breaston is a haley guy and PioLLLLLi is just ****ing with him. hes better then mccluster and baldwin.

at this point, it has to be the case. He has more size/ability than d-Mac and more experience/awareness than Baldwin. Not having him on the field is STUPID, if only that his presence would be a benefit to Quinn/CasseLLLLL, for the above reasons - he provides a bigger target than d-Mac and he has better moves and awareness and is able to find seams in secondary zones better than Baldwin. Which would free up Bowe and also stretch the D to open up holes for the RBs. So far all I've really seen from Baldwin is that he really likes to try and see if he can catch that ball with one hand on fly routes.

This whole thing is SO STUPID.

Jeebus, I'm glad I found this place.

KCrockaholic 10-15-2012 10:56 PM

It's pretty sad that he's not getting any playing time. He's a solid WR in this league. Plus we paid him pretty well for him to be sitting on the bench. Right now he's praying for a trade to Pittsburgh. Unfortunately for him, their WR's are insane.

ThaVirus 10-15-2012 10:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Driving Wheel (Post 9018940)
PioLLLLLi's ego dictates that Jon Baldwin drop one handed attempts to catch perfectly thrown passes...

Yeah, in truth we don't see many "perfectly thrown passes" but that dude is always trying to one-hand a catch. He'd probably have, oh, I don't know, maybe 3 more catches this season if he just two-handed them all like he's supposed to...

Seriously though, it's ****ing infuriating.

jd1020 10-15-2012 11:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 9019013)
Yeah, in truth we don't see many "perfectly thrown passes" but that dude is always trying to one-hand a catch. He'd probably have, oh, I don't know, maybe 3 more catches this season if he just two-handed them all like he's supposed to...

Seriously though, it's ****ing infuriating.

You get more extension by stretching out 1 hand. Every pass I've seen Baldwin try to 1 hand he barely gets the 1 hand on the ball. Not sure how he's suppose to do it with 2.

I have no problem with Breaston on the bench. I wouldn't put him on the field over Bowe and the only thing he has more than Baldwin is experience, everything else I'll take Baldwin.

MeatRock 10-15-2012 11:05 PM

Breaston can play the slot you know, and play it well.

jd1020 10-15-2012 11:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MeatRock (Post 9019025)
Breaston can play the slot you know, and play it well.

And you know this because?

BryanBusby 10-15-2012 11:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 9019028)
And you know this because?

That's what he did exactly at Arizona?

rabblerouser 10-15-2012 11:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 9019017)
You get more extension by stretching out 1 hand. Every pass I've seen Baldwin try to 1 hand he barely gets the 1 hand on the ball. Not sure how he's suppose to do it with 2.

there's a couple cASSel threw that were high, and he had to stretch for, natch...

but there are also just as many where it seems as if he's trying to do his best Randy Moss impersonation - or like the play on Sunday where he broke his route off and had to look around for the ball and jump for it, instead of just running his route and trusting his qb to deliver.

Now, I know how extraordinary that may seem, asking a WR to trust a KC QB (and vice versa) - this is a true 'chicken-or-the-egg' scenario.

I joke that the sympatico between cASSeLLLLL and Bowe is...cASShoLLLLLe throws high, low, behind him, and Bowe will make the specstacular play. On the rare occasion the ball hits the reciever in the hands, he is so shocked that he drops the ball out of surprise.

Or something along those lines.

rabblerouser 10-15-2012 11:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BryanBusby (Post 9019031)
That's what he did exactly at Arizona?

yeah he caught between 60-80 balls a year in AZ - came here to reunite w/Haley.

jd1020 10-15-2012 11:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BryanBusby (Post 9019031)
That's what he did exactly at Arizona?

I'm sorry. You must be confusing Steve Breaston with Anquan Boldin.

BryanBusby 10-15-2012 11:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 9019041)
I'm sorry. You must be confusing Steve Breaston with Anquan Boldin.

You know how I know that you're dumb.

MeatRock 10-15-2012 11:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 9019041)
I'm sorry. You must be confusing Steve Breaston with Anquan Boldin.

Wha? **** it :doh!:

Hammock Parties 10-15-2012 11:14 PM

Breaston was a top 30 WR on PFF last year.

jd1020 10-15-2012 11:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BryanBusby (Post 9019044)
You know how I know that you're dumb.

Not sure...

“It’s funny, a lot of people are always talking about me being a slot receiver, but my whole career, I’ve been outside,” Breaston clarified. “Last year was my first year that I even attempted at being the slot.

“Even when I was at Arizona, Q (Anquan Boldin) was mainly in the slot. I played opposite of Larry (Fitzgerald) outside.”

How do you know?

T-post Tom 10-15-2012 11:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 9019017)
I have no problem with Breaston on the bench. I wouldn't put him on the field over Bowe and the only thing he has more than Baldwin is experience, everything else I'll take Baldwin.

2011: 61 Receptions, 785 yds

Breaston can get separation, whereas Baldwin struggles with it. Cassell/Quinn need WRs that can get separation. They can't consistently throw in a small window. Just the facts. But if Breaston on the bench means a better shot at drafting a stud QB and flushing the FO, so be it.

jd1020 10-15-2012 11:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by T-post Tom (Post 9019052)
2011: 61 Receptions, 785 yds

Breaston can get separation, whereas Baldwin struggles with it. CasseLLLLLl/Quinn need WRs that can get separation. They can't consistently throw in a small window. Just the facts. But if Breaston on the bench means a better shot at drafting a stud QB and flushing the FO, so be it.

Baldwin doesn't struggle with seperation. Baldwin struggles with getting his # called pre snap.

MeatRock 10-15-2012 11:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 9019051)
Not sure...

“It’s funny, a lot of people are always talking about me being a slot receiver, but my whole career, I’ve been outside,” Breaston clarified. “Last year was my first year that I even attempted at being the slot.

“Even when I was at Arizona, Q (Anquan Boldin) was mainly in the slot. I played opposite of Larry (Fitzgerald) outside.”

How do you know?

You do know that Breaston has played slot with KC and played well right?

jd1020 10-15-2012 11:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MeatRock (Post 9019057)
You do know that Breaston has played slot with KC and played well right?

You can probably count the # of snaps in the slot on 1 ****ing hand.

T-post Tom 10-15-2012 11:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 9019053)
Baldwin doesn't struggle with seperation. Baldwin struggles with getting his # called pre snap.

Go back and watch the games. But yeah, you're right about the number of balls thrown his way.

KCrockaholic 10-15-2012 11:20 PM

Here we go with the Breaston, slot receiver talk again. Sheesh.

Fact: Breaston's spent most his career playing outside the hashes.

Fact: In Arizona, Boldin was their primary slot guy.

Fact: Breaston CAN play slot. Just hasn't typically been used there in the past.

End of discussion on that.

Hammock Parties 10-15-2012 11:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 9019060)
You can probably count the # of snaps in the slot on 1 ****ing hand.

Wrong. He ran almost 50 percent of his routes from the slot last season.

MeatRock 10-15-2012 11:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 9019060)
You can probably count the # of snaps in the slot on 1 ****ing hand.

Bullshit

jd1020 10-15-2012 11:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CasseLLLLL's Reckoning (Post 9019067)
Wrong. He ran almost 50 percent of his routes from the slot last season.

How many of his 61 catches came from the slot?

Hammock Parties 10-15-2012 11:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 9019076)
How many of his 61 catches came from the slot?

19 catches for 249 yards.

jd1020 10-15-2012 11:26 PM

And how many snaps?

KCrockaholic 10-15-2012 11:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 9019088)
And how many snaps?

WTF. He said nearly 50%. Out of about 450 pass route snaps.

jd1020 10-15-2012 11:28 PM

He said 50% not 450. But thanks...

So he made 19 catches out of the slot on roughly 225 snaps. Awesome!

MeatRock 10-15-2012 11:31 PM

That's damn near 14 yards a catch average in the slot.

Titty Meat 10-15-2012 11:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CasseLLLLL's Reckoning (Post 9019086)
19 catches for 249 yards.

He's part of the overrated core of WR's on this team.

MeatRock 10-15-2012 11:32 PM

I would rather have Breaston in the slot than McCluster.

rabblerouser 10-15-2012 11:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BryanBusby (Post 9019044)
You know how I know that you're dumb.



because his screen name has numbers in it???

Hammock Parties 10-16-2012 12:04 AM

Just read the chart yourself.

http://i.imgur.com/1n5K5.jpg

Hammock Parties 10-16-2012 12:07 AM

McCluster is ****ing useless.

He's averaging 8.9 yards per catch.

He's a pedestrian piece of shit who does nothing special whatsoever.

jd1020 10-16-2012 12:12 AM

I don't pay much attention to the stats of receivers on this team. They all rely on the QB to be more than an incompetent pos.

McCluster has shown the ability to beat the defender and catch the ball on a consistent basis.

Give this team an even average NFL QB and every receivers production goes up.

rabblerouser 10-16-2012 12:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MeatRock (Post 9019098)
I would rather have Breaston in the slot than McCluster.

^THIS

I don't care WHERE he lines up - slot, flanker, H-back, whatever. He's easily the 2nd best WR on the team, and may just be the most consistent...and the fact that he doesn't get playing time is indicative of just how fuckED this team is.

Titty Meat 10-16-2012 12:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CasseLLLLL's Reckoning (Post 9019148)
McCluster is ****ing useless.

He's averaging 8.9 yards per catch.

He's a pedestrian piece of shit who does nothing special whatsoever.

He's a 5'8 possession WR.

rabblerouser 10-16-2012 12:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CasseLLLLL's Reckoning (Post 9019139)
Just read the chart yourself.

http://i.imgur.com/1n5K5.jpg

I had forgotten completely about Keary Colbert being here...

Jeebus, that's how badly we've been starved for a WR...and he languishes in obscurity on the bench.

rabblerouser 10-16-2012 12:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bo's Pelini (Post 9019163)
He's a 5'8 possession WR.


He's a shorter, faster Wayne Chrebet - I get it. He'd be perfect in a wide-open 'run and shoot'-style offense. Aaron Rodgers would make stars out of Breaston AND d-Mac...

Here in KC, they are both just as useless as the wheels on a car without an engine.

mcaj22 10-16-2012 12:27 AM

Steve Breaston is better than both McCluster and Baldwin

and he has and will have the more productive career in terms of stats than either of them

that is the sad reality. I dont care who the QB is. Bowe did fine for years with shitty QBs throwing him the ball and Breaston was able to grab 61 balls last year just fine with CasseLLLLL/Palko/Orton.

There is no reason for him to take a backup role to these overrated young bums that have shown no impact

You should play the best players on the field, not Pioli's draft picks because Pioli calls down and demands you play his picks.

Hammock Parties 10-16-2012 12:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 9019156)
McCluster has shown the ability to beat the defender and catch the ball on a consistent basis.

LMAOLMAOLMAOLMAOLMAO

Any asshole off the street could do what he does.

mcaj22 10-16-2012 12:31 AM

im not going to hate on McCluster because at least he ****ing does somewhat of production but Jon Baldwin was a waste of a first round pick and is an overrated practice warrior stain. Dude cant beat the press, he cant locate the ball and he makes every catch look harder than it is. You are 6'5 you dont need to do jumping 1 handed grab attempts while twisting your body just for an 8 yard catch so you can showboat.

The scary part is I think they are giving him all these game reps because they expect him to take over for Bowe next season. And if Baldwin is our #1 WR, we are ****ed.

All because PioLLLLLi's father in law told him AJ Green and Jon Baldwin are the same player. Yeah great piece of info you ****ing old piece of trash. Stuck with another bum draft pick.

but hey its a process

Hammock Parties 10-16-2012 12:34 AM

At least Baldwin can get down the field and make a play. At some marginal, not-shitty level.

Dex is useless. Utterly ****ing useless. He hasn't made a single big play as a wide receiver.

He makes Samie Parker look like an All-Pro.

KCrockaholic 10-16-2012 12:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CasseLLLLL's Reckoning (Post 9019139)
Just read the chart yourself.

http://i.imgur.com/1n5K5.jpg

Bowe is obviously REALLY uncomfortable in the slot. THREE drops from the slot on just 8 targets. Unreal.

Hammock Parties 10-16-2012 12:36 AM

Yeah, another reason to hate our best player.

DaneMcCloud 10-16-2012 12:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CasseLLLLLLLLL's Reckoning (Post 9019148)
McCluster is ****ing useless.

Not nearly as useless as you.

He's earning at least $800k a year.

Meanwhile, you're lucky if you earn $80 dollars for each mani/pedi you perform for your mother's friends in her basement.

KCrockaholic 10-16-2012 12:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CasseLLLLL's Reckoning (Post 9019213)
Yeah, another reason to hate our best player.

Bowe is a terrible slot receiver.

Hammock Parties 10-16-2012 12:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9019225)
Not nearly as useless as you.

He's earning at least $800k a year.

Meanwhile, you're lucky if you earn $80 dollars for each mani/pedi you perform for your mother's friends in her basement.

LMAO

I'm sure Dex pays a lot more to get his nails done.

rabblerouser 10-16-2012 12:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCrockaholic (Post 9019231)
Bowe is a terrible slot receiver.

for a #1?? He's terrible, period. Always pointing to the back of his jersey, drops the routine catch WAY too often...and is fairly one-dimensional. The reason he sucks in the slot?? Because he can't just muscle his way to the ball - you have to have timing, moves and anticipation to play out of the slot. Bowe just runs slants and shallow crosses, drops the occaisional fade pass. That's it. He's NOT the best player on KC's roster - that designation goes to J. Charles.

Or D. Colquitt.

MeatRock 10-16-2012 12:56 AM

Whoa there, Bowe is not a terrible receiver. Come down off the ledge.

rabblerouser 10-16-2012 01:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MeatRock (Post 9019250)
Whoa there, Bowe is not a terrible receiver. Come down off the ledge.



For a #1...he's more than inconsistent. He has great skills, and when his head is screwed on right, he can be extremely effective...

but my ideal #1 receiver is a guy like Rice, Irvin, Megatron, Fitzgerald, Roddy White, etc.

As a matter of fact, here's a list of current NFL WRs I would take over Bowe :


AJ Green
Hakeem Nicks
Victor Cruz
Greg Jennings
Miles Austin
Wes Welker
Sydney Rice
Brandon Marshall
Brandon Lloyd
Vincent Jackson
Mike Wallace
Marques Colston
Roddy White
Micheal Crabtree
Calvin Johnson
Larry Fitzgerald
Kenny Britt
Reggie Wayne
Denarious Moore
DeSean Jackson
Jeremy Maclin

shit, I'd take Stevie Johnson over Bowe at this point - Johnson puts up great numbers with a shit QB and no front office.

You can go to every single NFL team and find a player of Bowe's caliber or better on their roster at WR. He's truly nothing special.


Off the top of my head. Those guys are at least as good - some (like Brandon Lloyd or Welker) have a different skill set, but their professionalism and production are considered as factors.

KCrockaholic 10-16-2012 01:22 AM

You didn't even list Percy Harvin.

rabblerouser 10-16-2012 01:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCrockaholic (Post 9019278)
You didn't even list Percy Harvin.

Yeah, him too.

See, I'm sure if I actually thought about it, I surely could come up with 32 WRs I'd rather have on my roster than D. Bowe. They may not be the naturally gifted, huge strong target he is...

but they'll catch the ball when it hits 'em in the hands. See, by that criteria, Brandon Stokely is better than D. Bowe. And you can time Stokely's 40 yd dash with a ****ing sundial.

KCrockaholic 10-16-2012 01:31 AM

It's fine. And although Bowe does have his fair share of problems, if he ever got a QB who was worth a shit, he would put up elite numbers. He's been a star with guys like Huard, Thigpen, Croyle, Cassel, and Palko. Just give him a guy like Palmer, or Flacco and he would destroy. He's never had an average QB.

rabblerouser 10-16-2012 01:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCrockaholic (Post 9019290)
It's fine. And although Bowe does have his fair share of problems, if he ever got a QB who was worth a shit, he would put up elite numbers. He's been a star with guys like Huard, Thigpen, Croyle, CasseLLLLL, and Palko. Just give him a guy like Palmer, or Flacco and he would destroy. He's never had an average QB.

Sure - that is truly the measure of a great QB; he makes those around him better. I can understand that. Same goes for Breaston, d-Mac - prolly even Baldwin. Who is even coaching our WRs right now??

But I digress, my point is that there are WRs who are either just as talented as Bowe and turn that potential into productivity, or who do way more with less physical attributes. That's a fact. Doesn't matter who the QB is - when the ball hits him in the hands and he doesn't catch it, that's on him. If he's put up such good numbers with such shitty QBs, then he should still be putting them up (as par for the course) but he is horribly inconsistent. At some point, you'd think now that we're, what 5 or 6 years into his career, at some point the talk about all his 'potential' has to stop and he should've developed into the consistent, mature full-time starter he impersonated at times during 2010. But, here we are, still making excuses for him or talking about his potential or the things he needs to do to become more complete...

Woodchuck 10-16-2012 06:49 AM

It definately seems like the only WR that can get open is McCluster. I agree with Driving Wheel about Bowe and am ready to move on. I like my receivers to catch the ball consistantly.

BlackHelicopters 10-16-2012 07:01 AM

Dude has been a ghost all season. Didn't realize he was still on roster. He can run a 4 yard pattern on third and eight with the best of them.

WhiteWhale 10-16-2012 07:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Driving Wheel (Post 9019297)
Sure - that is truly the measure of a great QB; he makes those around him better. I can understand that. Same goes for Breaston, d-Mac - prolly even Baldwin. Who is even coaching our WRs right now??

But I digress, my point is that there are WRs who are either just as talented as Bowe and turn that potential into productivity, or who do way more with less physical attributes. That's a fact. Doesn't matter who the QB is - when the ball hits him in the hands and he doesn't catch it, that's on him. If he's put up such good numbers with such shitty QBs, then he should still be putting them up (as par for the course) but he is horribly inconsistent. At some point, you'd think now that we're, what 5 or 6 years into his career, at some point the talk about all his 'potential' has to stop and he should've developed into the consistent, mature full-time starter he impersonated at times during 2010. But, here we are, still making excuses for him or talking about his potential or the things he needs to do to become more complete...

So getting 1000 + yards (or barely under) every year he's been a starter isn't consistent?

He's on pace for another 1,000 yards.

Michael Crabtree? Denarius Moore? Stevie Johnson? Put down the glass pipe buddy....

Boy, I sure do wish Bowe could consistently get less yards and TD's every year like them. If you're basing this on some 'eye test' you need to get them checked. There's no reason to put some of those guys over Bowe other than your own insanity.

Easy 6 10-16-2012 07:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WhiteWhale (Post 9019604)
So getting 1000 + yards (or barely under) every year he's been a starter isn't consistent?

He's on pace for another 1,000 yards.

Michael Crabtree? Denarius Moore? Stevie Johnson? Put down the glass pipe buddy....

Boy, I sure do wish Bowe could consistently get less yards and TD's every year like them. If you're basing this on some 'eye test' you need to get them checked. There's no reason to put some of those guys over Bowe other than your own insanity.

.

Sofa King 10-16-2012 08:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Driving Wheel (Post 9019267)
For a #1...he's more than inconsistent. He has great skills, and when his head is screwed on right, he can be extremely effective...

but my ideal #1 receiver is a guy like Rice, Irvin, Megatron, Fitzgerald, Roddy White, etc.

As a matter of fact, here's a list of current NFL WRs I would take over Bowe :


AJ Green
Hakeem Nicks
Victor Cruz
Greg Jennings
Miles Austin
Wes Welker
Sydney Rice
Brandon Marshall
Brandon Lloyd
Vincent Jackson
Mike Wallace
Marques Colston
Roddy White
Micheal Crabtree
Calvin Johnson
Larry Fitzgerald
Kenny Britt
Reggie Wayne
Denarious Moore
DeSean Jackson
Jeremy Maclin

shit, I'd take Stevie Johnson over Bowe at this point - Johnson puts up great numbers with a shit QB and no front office.

You can go to every single NFL team and find a player of Bowe's caliber or better on their roster at WR. He's truly nothing special.


Off the top of my head. Those guys are at least as good - some (like Brandon Lloyd or Welker) have a different skill set, but their professionalism and production are considered as factors.

LMAO

Stevie Johnson is the guy you point to for consistency?

Your opinion is worth shit if you think Johnson is anything but inconsistent.

htismaqe 10-16-2012 08:13 AM

This fanbase is beyond ridiculous.

Breaston isn't ON THE FIELD. He's a Haley guy and the coaching staff obviously feels a need to prove Pioli wasn't wrong about McCluster and Baldwin.

The WHOLE OFFENSE is designed to protect Pioli's poor personnel decisions.

Dwayne Bowe is a ****ING STAR. The fact that people want him to leave just shows you how ****ing STUPID this fanbase has become.

ChiefsCountry 10-16-2012 08:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Driving Wheel (Post 9019243)
for a #1?? He's terrible, period. Always pointing to the back of his jersey, drops the routine catch WAY too often...and is fairly one-dimensional. The reason he sucks in the slot?? Because he can't just muscle his way to the ball - you have to have timing, moves and anticipation to play out of the slot. Bowe just runs slants and shallow crosses, drops the occaisional fade pass. That's it. He's NOT the best player on KC's roster - that designation goes to J. Charles.

Or D. Colquitt.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Driving Wheel (Post 9019267)
For a #1...he's more than inconsistent. He has great skills, and when his head is screwed on right, he can be extremely effective...

but my ideal #1 receiver is a guy like Rice, Irvin, Megatron, Fitzgerald, Roddy White, etc.

As a matter of fact, here's a list of current NFL WRs I would take over Bowe :


AJ Green
Hakeem Nicks
Victor Cruz
Greg Jennings
Miles Austin
Wes Welker
Sydney Rice
Brandon Marshall
Brandon Lloyd
Vincent Jackson
Mike Wallace
Marques Colston
Roddy White
Micheal Crabtree
Calvin Johnson
Larry Fitzgerald
Kenny Britt
Reggie Wayne
Denarious Moore
DeSean Jackson
Jeremy Maclin

shit, I'd take Stevie Johnson over Bowe at this point - Johnson puts up great numbers with a shit QB and no front office.

You can go to every single NFL team and find a player of Bowe's caliber or better on their roster at WR. He's truly nothing special.


Off the top of my head. Those guys are at least as good - some (like Brandon Lloyd or Welker) have a different skill set, but their professionalism and production are considered as factors.

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Originally Posted by Woodchuck (Post 9019445)
It definately seems like the only WR that can get open is McCluster. I agree with Driving Wheel about Bowe and am ready to move on. I like my receivers to catch the ball consistantly.

Look at the idiot n00bs. Man we have some dumb****ers in this fan base.

the Talking Can 10-16-2012 08:21 AM

the influx of stupid on this board makes me regret the banner...

WhiteWhale 10-16-2012 08:24 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 9019701)
This fanbase is beyond ridiculous.

Breaston isn't ON THE FIELD. He's a Haley guy and the coaching staff obviously feels a need to prove PioLLLLLi wasn't wrong about McCluster and Baldwin.

The WHOLE OFFENSE is designed to protect PioLLLLLi's poor personnel decisions.

Dwayne Bowe is a ****ING STAR. The fact that people want him to leave just shows you how ****ing STUPID this fanbase has become.

When a team struggles there's always a segment of fans who blame the best players you have. Since the team sucks, they turn on the players who are the 'faces' of the organization.

FAX 10-16-2012 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by the Talking Can (Post 9019723)
the influx of stupid on this board makes me regret the banner...

ROFL

I was just thinking the same thing yesterday.

FAX

BigCatDaddy 10-16-2012 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by WhiteWhale (Post 9019736)
When a team struggles there's always a segment of fans who blame the best players you have. Since the team sucks, they turn on the players who are the 'faces' of the organization.

- Tony Gonzalez

InChiefsHeaven 10-16-2012 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by the Talking Can (Post 9019723)
the influx of stupid on this board makes me regret the banner...

Heh. The price we pay for fame...

Chiefnj2 10-16-2012 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 9019701)
This fanbase is beyond ridiculous.

Breaston isn't ON THE FIELD. He's a Haley guy and the coaching staff obviously feels a need to prove PioLLLLLi wasn't wrong about McCluster and Baldwin.

The WHOLE OFFENSE is designed to protect PioLLLLLi's poor personnel decisions.

.

Sadly, I agree. I think Breaston is sitting on the bench so Baldwin can get snaps.


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