You make sooo many reasonable comments its ridiculous. Seriously.

Who ****ing cares ! We are better off WITH Carr than without.

You don't pay a number 2 corner 12m a year sorry you just don't.

Not if it keeps you from adding talent at more important positions.

No shit. Read my other posts. The point of my post you quoted was Carr is 4 yrs younger and still improving. Routt won't get any better.

I think Carr actually took a step backwards last year. He was better in 2010.

Routt with crennel and Emmitt Thomas will get better.

1) Carr was still improving as a #2 corner. Those days are over, time to face the big boys.

2) if somebody else comes in here and says something like "Carr isn't a #2 corner, teams just put their best receiver on flowers because he is an easier matchup" my head might just explode. The two were targeted equally even though Flowers faced the top guy week in and week out.

3) paying 12 million per year, or even 11 is not smart business. Especially for a team that doesn't have a franchise quarterback.

4) Carrs play improved a lot once Romeo started dialing up some blitzes and applying more pressure. The two are connected and further shows that a good pass rush is far more important that having overspent in the secondary. Just ask the eagles.

Wrong.

You may not believe #2, but isn't us that said that, it was Ryan Fitzpatrick that said that when discussing how the Bills planned to attack the Cheifs secondary.

That's a plan devised by Chan Gailey, and Gailey is one of the best offensive minds in football.

It seems to me that Flowers had one of his worst games of the season against the Bills.

Carr is gone, I've accepted that.
And Routt is not nearly the dropoff that others believe.

But I'm not going to sit here and downplay how good Carr is, or was, simply because he's not likely going to be a Chief any longer any more than I was going to overvalue what Tony Gonzales was simply because he was a Chief.

I know stats can be decieving etc and I couldnt find the end of season numbers for 2011 but I did find through wk 13.

Anyway these numbers back up what I thought watching this season.

2010
http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w...ycupp/2010.png

2011 through Wk 13 he didn't even crack the top 12. Notice who ranks higher both seasons BTW. His replacement.

http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w...ycupp/2011.png

This does not surprise me. Cowboys wont be the only team in the bidding war.

Just overpay for Bowe. It makes more sense in terms of value to overpay our WR then tag and trade Carr, than it does to franchise Bowe and let Carr walk.

Before Flowers got hurt, he was 2nd only to Revis as a CB in this league, and flowers is head, and shoulders ahead of Carr in run support. I'd put anything on flowers having the better season next year.
I don't see him topped out at all. Carr was better for the last half of last season, but he still was ranked lower in Burn rate.
Losing Carr sucks, but we got the better corner for less money.

Wonder what JJ would give in the way of draft picks for Carr?