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Mecca 11-05-2012 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning (Post 9088845)
Breaston has been phased out of the offense almost entirely because of the idiots running the team.

Last season, when Haley was here and incorporating him correctly, he was a key part of the offense and doing just fine, even with Cassel and Palko chucking ducks.

Breaston's a Haley guy and this GM is bound and determined to prove McCluster wasn't a bad pick, so there's the math.

Sorter 11-05-2012 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 9088853)
Breaston's a Haley guy and this GM is bound and determined to prove McCluster wasn't a bad pick, so there's the math.

QFT

BossChief 11-05-2012 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 9088840)
And there were numerous people that asked the question why Moeaki over Jimmy Graham that's another pretty blatant draft day call.

Give us a breakdown on what you think about what KC should do if we get the top pick. Geno Smith?

I know you probably love Barkley, but shoot us some positives and weighted negatives of the two.

Thanks, in advance

chiefzilla1501 11-05-2012 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by tredadda (Post 9088826)
Wrong. Haley inherited Gailey and subsequently fired him. The lack of an OC in Haley's first year is on Haley, not Pioli.

Semantics. It doesn't make the rest of the pathetic story any less true.

Hammock Parties 11-05-2012 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 9088852)
Also realize that thee rest of those guys are veterans, not developing talent...or not developing talent is probably more accurate.

Is McCluster going to magically develop good hands and speed with a different QB?

He has 5 drops and 27 catches. That's terrible, as are the 3 INTs he has caused, and 0 big plays due to the fact he is 5-7 and runs a 4.6.

Stop defending shit talent.

Mother****erJones 11-05-2012 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 9088862)
Give us a breakdown on what you think about what KC should do if we get the top pick. Geno Smith?

I know you probably love Barkley, but shoot us some positives and weighted negatives of the two.

Thanks, in advance

I was yelling WHAT THE ****!! I WANT JIMMY GRAHAM! :harumph:
There's certain players I like coming out. I wanted Darnell Dockett, instead we got Junior Siavii, I wanted DeSean Jackson but Im ok with Flowers. I wanted Tannehill yet we get Poe...Clark hire me!!

BossChief 11-05-2012 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 9088840)
And there were numerous people that asked the question why Moeaki over Jimmy Graham that's another pretty blatant draft day call.

It's a real shame the three ACL injuries happened...what might have been...also remember Graham has an accurate qb, Moeaki has a tunnel vision one with poor accuracy.

Flip flop the two and the tale is probably much different.

Mecca 11-05-2012 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 9088862)
Give us a breakdown on what you think about what KC should do if we get the top pick. Geno Smith?

I know you probably love Barkley, but shoot us some positives and weighted negatives of the two.

Thanks, in advance

I don't think either is a bad pick or a slam dunk, I think Barkley is more mature and more pro ready. I'd say his ceiling may not be quite as high as Geno's but his floor is higher. I think even in a worse case scenario Barkley ends up as a good QB.

His leadership and intangibles are off the charts, I view him a lot as a Matt Ryan/Andy Dalton type.

Geno Smith I think could be great or could be out of the league quickly. I''m kind of hard pressed to think of an NFL comparison for him honestly.

With this team I'd probably go Barkley since I think he needs less coaching.

tredadda 11-05-2012 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 9088864)
Semantics. It doesn't make the rest of the pathetic story any less true.

I didn't disagree with anything else you said, just the wrong part. But hey......semantics.

Mecca 11-05-2012 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 9088878)
It's a real shame the three ACL injuries happened...what might have been...also remember Graham has an accurate qb, Moeaki has a tunnel vision one with poor accuracy.

Flip flop the two and the tale is probably much different.

I will still say no one can be surprised that Moeaki got hurt it's what he does.

ChiefsCountry 11-05-2012 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 9088827)
Absolutely.

Go back to my draft comments...I immediately brought up Kris Wilson when we picked Dexter and was shouting at the top of my lungs for Cody.

I still think we should have taken Clausen at 36 and Cody in place of Arenas, but two bad picks don't make a whole class poor.

Berry, Asamoah, Moeaki and Lewis(who I'm not a fan of) round out an above average draft class. A solid b...just not an A.

I wanted Sergio Kindle so I would have had a **** up. I know I really liked Carlos Dunlap and Sean Lee.

chiefzilla1501 11-05-2012 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 9088878)
It's a real shame the three ACL injuries happened...what might have been...also remember Graham has an accurate qb, Moeaki has a tunnel vision one with poor accuracy.

Flip flop the two and the tale is probably much different.

I liked the pick at the time over Graham. Moeaki is a much more multi-dimensional TE. He's a good blocker, something you don't get out of Graham. Graham's success is largely built off of Brees being so excellent at spreading people out and excel in a pass-heavy scheme.

But let's be real. Moeaki is dropping a ton of easy shit. As a receiver, he has been an enormous disappointment. But yeah, I would like to see what he does with a better QB.

BossChief 11-05-2012 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning (Post 9088870)
Is McCluster going to magically develop good hands and speed with a different QB?

He has 5 drops and 27 catches. That's terrible, as are the 3 INTs he has caused, and 0 big plays due to the fact he is 5-7 and runs a 4.6.

Stop defending shit talent.

Hahaha

Dexter doesn't have breakaway speed, but he has ELITE acceleration and quickness. His size offers a smaller window for the qb to deliver the ball but saying his hands are bad is silly. The passes he has "dropped" were terrible passes and you know that.

Matt Cassel shouldn't even be in the NFL.

stonedstooge 11-05-2012 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by tredadda (Post 9088883)
I didn't disagree with anything else you said, just the wrong part. But hey......semantics.

I'm not sure a first time head coach didn't have a lot of direction with that firing. Pisoli's true colors show that

tredadda 11-05-2012 09:56 PM

Everything on this team, especially on offense needs to be observed by the fact we start the worst QB in the league. Give us a legit QB and then we can properly evaluate our offensive talent.


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