Would you trade Justin houston and our 2nd
 

To the Browns for #4. Houstons cap savings would be 20 mil.

To go up and grab who?

no

i love these outrageous threads, it makes me laugh

What player would we be desperate for?

Houston for Gordon... Artemus Gordon

Baker Mayfield at 4

Take the 20 mil and sign Jimmy Graham and 2 OL

Mayfield gives us our backup and could also be used for a trade in a year or two to get picks. Plus Denver doesn't get him

I wouldn’t hesitate if Bradley Chubb were there.

No, but why would this even be a thought? To trade that for multiple other picks?

For a backup Quarterback that the Broncos were going try to get could be entertaining to watch Elway bucking around in his stable.

A little early to be this many sheets in the wind.

Dick Vermeil, is that you?

You’d be insane not to

That leaves the Alex Smith money to spend on defense as well as rounds 3-7

And Draft that Texas punter and let Colquitt walk. Another upgrade and cap savings

If the moon were made of barbeque spare ribs would you eat it then?

what makes you think he wouldn't

I know I would. Heck I'd have seconds. Then polish it off with a tall cool Budweiser.

Hell, I would! And I’d finish it off with a tall, cool Budweiser.

That would also leave us without a passrush. There is no real OLB that would be an upgrade available to us in FA or the draft.
Ford is injured, Jones is injured, Kpass has not looked ready and Zombo sucks.

If we wanted to go 8-8 avegeraging 34ppg but allowing 32ppg

trade your third best player on defense and your 2nd round pick to move up and draft a qb that you dont need. Meth is a hell of a drug

No. Need another pick in return. The Clark’s are stupid enough to approve as is, however.

Houston is a huge salary so of course

That was basically what happened with Houston this year anyway. Couldn't even stop Marcus Mariota. At home!



Doesn't matter, the Browns would never do that deal anyway. Go propose it on their board

Yes if whoever you grab at #4 you're 100% sure he's locking that position down for the next 8 years. I'd also want a low 4th or 3rd back.

Mahomes gets injured we're drafting top 5 the next year. My scenario gives Mahomes his backup . 6-7 quality OL. 2 pro bowl TE's , enough money for 3 quality players on Defense and and rounds 3-7 available to find one ****ing pass rusher. I'd say thats a pretty damn good idea.

Yes, it won't happen but yes I would.

Lol no.

What part of the facts that there will not be a OLB available after the 1st is it that you don't understand? What part of the fact that there is not a passrushing OLB in FA that you don't understand?

There's 12 million in dead money there, anyway. We'd be seeing 8 million, not 20 million.

Pretty much.

Houston and Gordon. Worthless noose contracts.

I know Hog Farmer is trying to Demonpenz us all, but I still want to bring this up:

Who cares? If Mahomes goes down, I have zero reason to watch this year's Chiefs anyway. May as well take the top 5 pick in 2019 as a consolation prize.

Guarantee you a quality edge rusher can be had in later rounds. And who says Kpass is a bust ???

I suppose it would depend on who they're targeting, but my first reaction is to say no

Not ready to ditch our best pass rusher yet, put some talent back along that front 7 and he can still be productive... he doesnt even turn 30 until January

Not if he's traded

Hog - fat, drunk, and retired is no way to go through life.

Wait a minute, maybe it is :hmmm:

DE Bradley Chubb

And the years after we'd see it all back. Houston isn't getting any younger and Mahomes rookie contract has 3 good years on it. Spend spend spend in FA build yourself a solid team in those three years and ride the pine to a SB while it's cheap.

If they actually trade up chances are whoever they trade up for is a guy they feel is a guaranteed superstar anyway.

There is no reason to believe that Mayfield would have any better result than a Chase Daniel would as a backup QB. It is not like we are just going to compete for a Championship with Mayfield in his first year. We would be just as likely to be drafting in the middle of the 1st with whatever backup QB.

I agree.

The cap savings is not 20 mil. It's about 8 mil with the dead cap hit this year. No it's definitely not worth it.

I see your line of thinking. But No... I believe Mahomes pushed Mayfield out of Texas Tech. Last thing needed right now is Mahomes having to look over his shoulder in his first year as The Man. I'd rather they went defense and or turned that #4 into more picks by trading back down a few times. That way, Houston essentially turns into a handful of day 1/day 2 draft picks plus the shed CAP space.

Houston is damaged but what would that do to locker room. We made a commitment to him in a big way and DJ and Hali are going out. I would do it for Peters and draft Fitzpatrick. No problem.

Drafting Baker would be an insane move.

Nope.

The Chiefs are going to have enough cap room that dumping Houston doesn't make sense. There's a point of diminishing returns on cap room. You wind up having too much and not having enough good players to use it on.

I probably would, but not for mayfield. Getting rid of Houston’s salary would be nice.

For Chubb maybe

Other than that meh

It would never happen anyway

This is not the year to trade Houston. Next year it's going to happen, though. 21M to keep and 7M to trade/cut.

He has one year left on the Chiefs.

Additionally, drafting a backup QB at 4 is the dumbest ****ing thing I might have ever read.

Trade up to 4 and draft a QB? That’s beyond stupid. That’s ignorant. You get rid of your best linebacker and now would just have Ford and Tanoh.

Mayfield is Hog's new Manzel.

Chiefs fans are such cut throats...smh

Trade a top-3 guy from the defense so that you have to find two edge rushers instead of one this off season. Makes perfect sense especially since they might have a hard time finding one average to above average rusher in this group of FA or top two rounds of the draft.

I guess I should say some. Justin is a great player. He will be back in force next year.

People have been saying that ever since he got hurt.

Telling chief's fans how to root for and discuss their team? Sound familiar?

For once I get one of your references

Houston and our 2nd? **** no. If it was Houston for their 1st and 2nd, then I'd think about it. You know you're replacing Houston with the pick at #4. You have to get more than that to even consider it.

Not likely for that trade......Sutton is voing to make thia a monster d and Houston os a big part of it.......riiiiiigggght?

y'all do realize that real life isn't Madden, right?

I'd trade Houston & 3rd round pick for Chubb.

It’d take a lot more than that to move up to #4

I don’t think I would draft mayfield with our 7th round pick.

If the Chiefs were to somehow, some way, land Bradley Chubb, I'd get a jersey with his number but change the name on the back to 'FullMast'

No.

And hell the **** no...

When your starting QB is entering his first year starting, yeah...

This I wouldn't take Baker Mayfield with our second round pick if he was available. Stupidest thought ever.

Is everyone drinking themselves into oblivion this morning?

Did I miss the Memo?

Trade to 4 and take a QB would be looked at soooooo bad. What would Mahomes and the team think if such a brain dead move. Two number 1 picked QBs in their forst years. Totally stupid.

Dude, Johnny Football is going to light the XFL2 up!











Kidding...

Get to #4 and draft a QB?https://media.giphy.com/media/xUOwG7...jLGg/giphy.gif

WTF would you use the #4 pick in the draft to get a backup QB? Dude, you should lay off the crack.

The Browns wouldn't do that.

Dorsey would.

I hope to God we wouldn't...

That would be outright theft on the Chiefs part. Houston isn't an impact guy anymore.

I say one more year, let him mentor a young draft pass rusher for a year and see the chemistry between the two. Without Tamba and Houston this defense doesn't have anyone to get to the QB.

We had so many injuries and green players in our secondary that even Cutler and the QB of the week for the Jets put up over 250 passing yards on us.

We need to go back to a more aggressive pass rushing defense that highlights Houston's skill set. Maybe if we can improve the secondary we can get our pass rush back