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swayy07 12-30-2009 10:11 AM

Suh over berry if he fell to us?
 
just wondering what everyone would do if both where still there when we draft.

id hate spending three years worth of first round draft picks on DL and still suck.

Dante84 12-30-2009 10:15 AM

I'd like to get a DC in place, firmly, before we even make any draft decisions. If it's Crennel, so be it. I don't want to handcuff the DC without getting his solid input, assuming its worth a damn.

Dante84 12-30-2009 10:16 AM

That being said, our safety position is causing way more damage to our overall defense than any other position. Including the lack of a fat DT.

BigCatDaddy 12-30-2009 10:16 AM

You go with Suh and make it work. You can't mortgage your future because you f'd up in the past.

Deberg_1990 12-30-2009 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Dante84 (Post 6391443)
That being said, our safety position is causing way more damage to our overall defense than any other position. Including the lack of a fat DT.

I thought it was lack of a pass rush?

Mr. Laz 12-30-2009 10:18 AM

i would hope that if Suh and Berry both fell to us we would trade down a draft spot or something and then take Berry.


just don't see how Suh fits on our team unless we go back to a 4-3 or they think that Suh can play nose tackle ala Jay Ratliff for Dallas.

Extra Point 12-30-2009 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy (Post 6391444)
You go with Suh and make it work. You can't mortgage your future because you f'd up in the past.

THIS

Dante84 12-30-2009 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 6391445)
I thought it was lack of a pass rush?

Quality coverage over the middle will allow our CB's to play better; allowing our entire secondary to erase passing options for the opposing QB; making him sit in the pocket longer; leading to more sacks, broken plays, and more interceptions via forced bad throws.

The pass rush will get much better once we have a solid backfield.

Dante84 12-30-2009 10:24 AM

Even if our Dline gets a better push and we still dont have a safety, teams will dink and dunk us all the way down the field on screens and tight end dump offs.

Old Dog 12-30-2009 10:31 AM

I would pray that some team would be willing to move up to get Suh. I think this team needs Berry worse than Suh, but it wouldn't shock me at all if they went Suh in that scenario as he would help sell more tickets immediately.

Mr. Laz 12-30-2009 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Dante84 (Post 6391466)
Even if our Dline gets a better push and we still dont have a safety, teams will dink and dunk us all the way down the field on screens and tight end dump offs.

surely we can improve our safety position through FA without spending a bunch of cash.

i mean solid,unspectacular safeties are pretty common. It's when you get one that is a stud that they get expensive.

Deberg_1990 12-30-2009 10:37 AM

Hali, Jackson, Dorsey, Suh...all #1 picks....

That would be incredible....or incredible "on paper" :)

Coogs 12-30-2009 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Laz (Post 6391496)
surely we can improve our safety position through FA without spending a bunch of cash.

i mean solid,unspectacular safeties are pretty common. It's when you get one that is a stud that they get expensive.

There shoud be a few good ones available in round two and three this year as well. Maybe not Berry. But good none the less.

swayy07 12-30-2009 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Laz (Post 6391496)
surely we can improve our safety position through FA without spending a bunch of cash.

i mean solid,unspectacular safeties are pretty common. It's when you get one that is a stud that they get expensive.

right but wouldnt you want a star back there? i mean look at what TP and Ed reed do for their D's its retarted how much better each of those teams are when they are on the field.

swayy07 12-30-2009 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 6391499)
Hali, Jackson, Dorsey, Suh...all #1 picks....

That would be incredible....or incredible "on paper" :)

if we did this and we didnt end up having one of the best D-lines in the league it would prolly make me wana shoot my self


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