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Chargem 10-28-2019 08:00 AM

If you were forced to keep Jones...
 
...How are you thinking about the defense and what are you adding via FA/draft?

This is just mainly a random thoughts thread.

I think a lot of people would agree LB is the biggest hole (especially after the Packers game), do you try and find one in the first round or would you prefer a veteran?

Do we end up neglecting CB in the draft again for another year, or look to add in the 2nd or later if we go 1st round LB?

What about the O line, it still needs improving? 3rd round or later?

How do you feel about DT if you have Jones, Nnadi and Saunders?

What would you like to see get done in FA if the budget is quite tight? Veteran CB or LB?

Is there anything else you want to add on offense other than O line?


If anyone has any insight as to how next year's draft is shaping up for linebackers, I would be very interested.

Detoxing 10-28-2019 11:15 AM

"Forced"?

Are you ****ing kidding me right now?

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Chargem 10-28-2019 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 14559263)
"Forced"?

Are you ****ing kidding me right now?

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Well, check every mock draft on here and see him being traded? Everyone likes trading for picks because it's more fun doing a draft with more high picks, I'm just thinking its more likely that the Chiefs do give him the contract so was wondering how that makes the draft and off season look.

New World Order 10-29-2019 11:41 AM

I'd give up more picks to move up if we could get an elite MLB.

Chargem 10-29-2019 03:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by New World Order (Post 14561471)
I'd give up more picks to move up if we could get an elite MLB.

at the cost of being able to draft a CB?

Detoxing 10-29-2019 05:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chargem (Post 14562122)
at the cost of being able to draft a CB?

Yes.

OKchiefs 10-29-2019 09:19 PM

No veterans, Veach will pay $50 million for a turd like Hitchens.

BWillie 10-29-2019 09:45 PM

I don't see a point in keeping Jones when Saunders can get you 90% of his production. He's a freelancer anyway. Our defense hasn't been any worse without him. I've started to believe that most DT's are quite expendable even if they are productive statwise.

New World Order 10-30-2019 12:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chargem (Post 14562122)
at the cost of being able to draft a CB?

Yes...but what kind of CB? A superstar? A legit starter with our second rounder?

Chargem 10-30-2019 12:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by New World Order (Post 14563682)
Yes...but what kind of CB? A superstar? A legit starter with our second rounder?

You tell me. The Chiefs and 49ers records probably mean the Chiefs are picking in the last few of both the 1st and 2nd round. If you want to move up to get an elite MLB like you mentioned, what do you think you are prepared to give up? Is the elite MLB you want worth the Chiefs first and 2nd pick?

Maybe this is all too hypothetical until we know more about the draft class. I am just not convinced you can find a starting corner or LB at the back of the 2nd, possibly at 64. So if you don't gain any picks via a Jones move, how do you prioritize and fill those two needs?

New World Order 10-30-2019 12:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chargem (Post 14563698)
You tell me. The Chiefs and 49ers records probably mean the Chiefs are picking in the last few of both the 1st and 2nd round. If you want to move up to get an elite MLB like you mentioned, what do you think you are prepared to give up? Is the elite MLB you want worth the Chiefs first and 2nd pick?

Maybe this is all too hypothetical until we know more about the draft class. I am just not convinced you can find a starting corner or LB at the back of the 2nd, possibly at 64. So if you don't gain any picks via a Jones move, how do you prioritize and fill those two needs?

I'm aware he was not drafted in the middle of the pack but I would take a Luke Kuechly over a late first and late second round pick, yes.

DJ's left nut 10-30-2019 01:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by New World Order (Post 14561471)
I'd give up more picks to move up if we could get an elite MLB.

Devin White has led me to the conclusion that I have no idea what constitutes an elite MLB prospect anymore.

White is everything you could ever want in a prospect. And he...kinda sucks. I don't suspect he'll always suck but he's been pretty bad this year. And no, we almost certainly won't be getting a better pure prospect in next season's draft than Devin White. He was the best LB prospect I'd seen since Jaylon Smith (pre-knee injury). And thus far he's been no better than Hitchens.

O.city 10-30-2019 02:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 14563751)
Devin White has led me to the conclusion that I have no idea what constitutes an elite MLB prospect anymore.

White is everything you could ever want in a prospect. And he...kinda sucks. I don't suspect he'll always suck but he's been pretty bad this year. And no, we almost certainly won't be getting a better pure prospect in next season's draft than Devin White. He was the best LB prospect I'd seen since Jaylon Smith (pre-knee injury). And thus far he's been no better than Hitchens.

I think it's a lot like RB's. So much of it is feel and vision and such.

Chargem 10-30-2019 02:32 PM

So is it better to look at a CB in the 1st and then take linebackers in free agency? You've got Trevathan, Van Noy, Christian Jones, Cory Littleton, Onwuasor, Minter, Neville Hewitt, David Mayo, Blake Martinez, Schobert, all UFAs next year. Is the market robust enough that you can improve at LB without breaking the bank?

O.city 10-30-2019 03:11 PM

Yeah you could get one of those dudes on a decent vet deal I bet.

I don't think you have to go CB in round one. I think you just have to keep stacking the roster. Go full BPA. If it's a tackle, take him. If it's a TE, do it.


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