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Scorpion05 01-12-2019 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by wutamess (Post 14023282)
This has to be the dumbest take ever.
PM is special. Yes I'm a homer BUT hear me out.
Who else would you rather have at QB of lets say, the Raiders over the qbs in his list before PM?

A dumb take?

Who is better at reading defenses? Is Mahomes better than Rodgers, Brees, Brady, and Wilson at reading defenses?

Put Mahomes on the Colts, and put Luck on the Chiefs. Are you sure Mahomes would still have the better career? Like 100% positive?

Mahomes has elite talent. Arguably the best I’ve ever seen. That doesn’t make him the best QB and that doesn’t make him Top 5. If he keeps this up, then yes regardless of being under Andy Reid with Cheetah able to take a 2 yard pass 90 yards, he’ll earn Top 5 status. But he’ll have to perform in the post season, and be consistent year after year to be Top 5. The idea that’s a dumb take is silly and sounds very homerish. I can think of 3 QBs I’d take over Mahomes right now because I don’t think he drops 50 TDs in another system, and I’m old enough to have seen better QB play. I watched Peyton Manning score over 50 TDs, that was more impressive just purely based on game film. Mahomes is not there yet. But he has the personality and the talent to be the greatest ever

Sweet Daddy Hate 01-13-2019 04:49 AM

You are SEVERELY underrating Mahomes because he makes it look easy. But this is to be expected. I knew from the moment that he began challenging the old guard in his first season as a starter, that ALL SORTS of folks were going to come crawling out of the wood work to try and demean his talent and accomplishments.

"2 yard passes"?

This isn't Alex Smith. Jesus...

DTVietnam 01-13-2019 04:52 AM

Dak not elite and will never be. . its sad I was rooting for the Cowboys today but Dak is just to jittery in the pocket. . he never seems to have any calmness or control in the game. .

Oh Snap 01-13-2019 05:18 AM

Cocaine is a hell of a drug. Clearly rotted away several key parts of Irvings brain...especially the part that deals with critical thought. Dak is nowhere near Mahomes level. No one is.

WhiteWhale 01-13-2019 07:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Scorpion05 (Post 14028543)
A dumb take?

Who is better at reading defenses? Is Mahomes better than Rodgers, Brees, Brady, and Wilson at reading defenses?

Put Mahomes on the Colts, and put Luck on the Chiefs. Are you sure Mahomes would still have the better career? Like 100% positive?

Mahomes has elite talent. Arguably the best I’ve ever seen. That doesn’t make him the best QB and that doesn’t make him Top 5. If he keeps this up, then yes regardless of being under Andy Reid with Cheetah able to take a 2 yard pass 90 yards, he’ll earn Top 5 status. But he’ll have to perform in the post season, and be consistent year after year to be Top 5. The idea that’s a dumb take is silly and sounds very homerish. I can think of 3 QBs I’d take over Mahomes right now because I don’t think he drops 50 TDs in another system, and I’m old enough to have seen better QB play. I watched Peyton Manning score over 50 TDs, that was more impressive just purely based on game film. Mahomes is not there yet. But he has the personality and the talent to be the greatest ever

You should be ashamed of this post.

WhiteWhale 01-13-2019 07:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Scorpion05 (Post 14028472)
Actually some would take Luck. Others may take Watson, or Wilson, or Rodgers, or Brees

You’re being a homer. I watch the games. I see a QB who can pass the ball to Hill and he takes it 90 yards. I see a QB who has an elite playcaller

I don’t see a QB who dissects defenses repeatedly with tight window throws and manipulated defenses. He’s not on that level yet, if you’re being honest. If he ever does, he’ll be unstoppable because he has top 3 talent

Aaron Rodgers’ has had amazing seasons. Some people still consider Brady and even Brees to be better. Mahomes has top 3 talent, but saying he’s a Top 5 QB already is peak homerism

Saying a guy isn't top 5 after he has the second best season in NFL history as a debut is peak haterade.

Just hating greatness in the moment. IN 15 years you'll pretend you knew it before his first snap.

All this talk like KC has the best offense of all time and Andy Reid is APPARENTLY now the greatest playcaller in the NFL... weird how that suddenly happened after Mahomes started playing. Your transparent attempt to minimize his indisputable awesomeness is scandalous and weak. Your claim that he doesn't manipulate defenses shows you're not even actually paying attention. It's an outright falsehood.

HE STILL hasn't scored less than 26 points in 18 starts .

Dr. Yu Weed Tard 01-13-2019 07:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Sweet Daddy Hate (Post 14032687)
"2 yard passes"?

This isn't Alex Smith. Jesus...

Dak Prescott and those 2 yard passes = a poor man's Alex Smith.

Cocaine is a helluva drug.

Sweet Daddy Hate 01-13-2019 07:43 AM

Who made Andy Reid "next level"? It sure as **** wasn't some RB from Philly or the 4 QB's he worked with prior to 2018 so....

Dr. Yu Weed Tard 01-13-2019 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Sweet Daddy Hate (Post 14032856)
Who made Andy Reid "next level"? It sure as **** wasn't some RB from Philly or the 4 QB's he worked with prior to 2018 so....

To be fair, Reid did a HELL of a lipstick job on Smiff to get him looking good enough for Washington to back the Brinks truck in for the trade...may be Reid's greatest coaching accomplishment ever.

Because all these Super Bowls? Are gonna be on Mahomes.

Sweet Daddy Hate 01-13-2019 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Haglund's_Spirit (Post 14032882)
To be fair, Reid did a HELL of a lipstick job on Smiff to get him looking good enough for Washington to back the Brinks truck in for the trade...may be Reid's greatest coaching accomplishment ever.

Because all these Super Bowls? Are gonna be on Mahomes.

That was a great day. The departure of Smiff is just as important as getting that Marty off our backs; now we are free to play real football and win games of significance.

Dr. Yu Weed Tard 01-13-2019 08:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Sweet Daddy Hate (Post 14032892)
That was a great day. The departure of Smiff is just as important as getting that Marty off our backs; now we are free to play real football and win games of significance.

Yes! Yes, so much yes!! They can't stop this rock n' roll train!


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