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Tribal Warfare 04-19-2015 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Fire Me Boy! (Post 11445326)
There's a LOT more to be bothered by in MoS, but I still enjoy it.

1. Kryptonians are genetically designed to do one thing, but Jor-El is capable of kicking Zod's ass, riding a beast, being a scientist...
2. Krypton is straight out of The Matrix.
3. Jonathan Kent's death.
4. Lois giving up the alien story because Clark asked nicely.
5. Christ symbolism overload.
6. First kiss over smoldering Metropolis instead of saving people/writing the story.

That really irked me also.

-King- 04-19-2015 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefspants (Post 11444700)
I also appreciated how literally hundreds of thousands of people had just been slaughtered by Zod and Supes and it's a random run of the mill family which inspires Supes to put an end to him.

Seriously - Superman couldn't find a way to divert Zod into a less populated area? I get that watching 45 minutes of disaster porn is fun and all, but having a random family of four being the line in the sand for Supes to murder after that fight was a bit confusing.

How? I still don't understand people having a problem with the destruction. These are two of the most powerful things in the known universe fighting. Of course there will be A LOT of destruction. And how exactly would Superman get Zod to a less populated area? Ask him? Go there and hope Zod follows him? Zod would just stay in metropolis and continue killing people.
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RobBlake 04-19-2015 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Fire Me Boy! (Post 11445326)
There's a LOT more to be bothered by in MoS, but I still enjoy it.

1. Kryptonians are genetically designed to do one thing, but Jor-El is capable of kicking Zod's ass, riding a beast, being a scientist...
2. Krypton is straight out of The Matrix.
3. Jonathan Kent's death.
4. Lois giving up the alien story because Clark asked nicely.
5. Christ symbolism overload.
6. First kiss over smoldering Metropolis instead of saving people/writing the story.

everything is your opinion but number 6.. they just avoided death and it was a moment of appreciation for each other.. pretty sure they cleaned up after

Fire Me Boy! 04-20-2015 07:35 AM

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Ragged Robin 04-20-2015 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Fire Me Boy! (Post 11445294)
While I can appreciate this, the fanboys that I know that hate this change can't seem to understand that somehow Supes developed that fundamental philosophy. He wasn't (necessarily) born with it. The way I read that scene is that having to kill Zod is what actually informs the philosophy.

People seem to forget that as a hero, Supes in MoS is a newborn. He has to make some mistakes in order to become the Supes we know and love.

JMO.

This is exactly the problem. What's supposed to set Kal El apart from Zod and the rest of the Kryptonians still alive is his upbringing and in this version, Pa Kent is (largely) a cowardly piece of shit so I guess it's no wonder why he hardcore executes Zod on his knees.. :harumph:

Sure-Oz 04-20-2015 07:22 PM

Apparently people who attended theater trailer screenings tonight saw 5 seconds of footage of Batman and Superman charging each other. Also they got a voucher for a free ticket to see bvssuperman 1 week early and a poster

mdchiefsfan 04-21-2015 05:46 AM

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Originally Posted by -King- (Post 11445884)
How? I still don't understand people having a problem with the destruction. These are two of the most powerful things in the known universe fighting. Of course there will be A LOT of destruction. And how exactly would Superman get Zod to a less populated area? Ask him? Go there and hope Zod follows him? Zod would just stay in metropolis and continue killing people.
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LMAO exactly! I've never understood that argument.

-Superman: "Zod, I care about these people, let's settle this in that field over there."

- Zod: "Oh, my bad! Meet you there in 5?"

Easy 6 04-21-2015 06:47 AM

This looks bad ass IMO, seems like they're taking him more into the dark comic books than Nolans version... this Batman is bigger, darker, and meaner.

Affleck is going to pleasantly surprise a lot people I bet.

Fire Me Boy! 04-21-2015 06:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Easy 6 (Post 11449454)
This looks bad ass IMO, seems like they're taking him more into the dark comic books than Nolans version... this Batman is bigger, darker, and meaner.

Affleck is going to pleasantly surprise a lot people I bet.

I'm skeptical of anything Ben does in which he does not direct himself. He has a substantial history of crap when he's directed by others. Gone Girl was very good, but Zack Snyder's no David Fincher.

Easy 6 04-21-2015 07:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Fire Me Boy! (Post 11449463)
I'm skeptical of anything Ben does in which he does not direct himself. He has a substantial history of crap when he's directed by others. Gone Girl was very good, but Zack Snyder's no David Fincher.

I bet he'll be fine as long as the script is good, this definitely wont be a rental for me, it has a chance to be really awesome.

Fire Me Boy! 04-21-2015 07:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Easy 6 (Post 11449468)
I bet he'll be fine as long as the script is good, this definitely wont be a rental for me, it has a chance to be really awesome.

We'll probably see it in the theater, too. Just saying I'm skeptical, especially of Ben.

JD10367 04-21-2015 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Fire Me Boy! (Post 11445294)
While I can appreciate this, the fanboys that I know that hate this change can't seem to understand that somehow Supes developed that fundamental philosophy. He wasn't (necessarily) born with it. The way I read that scene is that having to kill Zod is what actually informs the philosophy.

People seem to forget that as a hero, Supes in MoS is a newborn. He has to make some mistakes in order to become the Supes we know and love.

JMO.

This.

Supes is almost an unwinnable character. He was written as part Boy Scout, part Jesus. If you portray him that way, people hate it. If you give him a darker edge, people hate it. If you show him developing his personality (MoS), people hate it. What the **** do people want, really? Honestly, "MoS" and "Smallville" are the more realistic idea of what it would be like. Think about it: you, yourself, grow up pretty well, and suddenly find out you have the powers of a god. Would it really be that easy to suddenly become a do-gooding hero? Dedicate your life to just helping people? Purge yourself of any thoughts of using your powers for selfishness, greed, lust? Take your anger just a little too far? I think the superhuman "nature vs. nurture" discussion was done pretty well with the unheralded film "Chronicle" that came out a while back. That's all these modern directors are doing: exploring HOW Kent makes his choices and becomes Supes.

Buehler445 04-21-2015 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by JD10367 (Post 11450014)
This.

Supes is almost an unwinnable character. He was written as part Boy Scout, part Jesus. If you portray him that way, people hate it. If you give him a darker edge, people hate it. If you show him developing his personality (MoS), people hate it. What the **** do people want, really? Honestly, "MoS" and "Smallville" are the more realistic idea of what it would be like. Think about it: you, yourself, grow up pretty well, and suddenly find out you have the powers of a god. Would it really be that easy to suddenly become a do-gooding hero? Dedicate your life to just helping people? Purge yourself of any thoughts of using your powers for selfishness, greed, lust? Take your anger just a little too far? I think the superhuman "nature vs. nurture" discussion was done pretty well with the unheralded film "Chronicle" that came out a while back. That's all these modern directors are doing: exploring HOW Kent makes his choices and becomes Supes.

Good post. XRay vision would DEFINITELY be used to look at tits.

Fish 04-21-2015 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Buehler445 (Post 11450026)
Good post. XRay vision would DEFINITELY be used to look at tits.

Superman's Xray vision is a goddamn farce. There's no ability to perceive color, as color is part of the visual optical spectrum. There's no way that Xrays emitted from Superman's eyes could return back to his eyes. There's no way for the Xrays to distinguish between matter that should be transparently seen through, and matter that should be seen. It's ****ing bullshit! :cuss:

Fire Me Boy! 04-21-2015 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Fish (Post 11450060)
Superman's Xray vision is a goddamn farce. There's no ability to perceive color, as color is part of the visual optical spectrum. There's no way that Xrays emitted from Superman's eyes could return back to his eyes. There's no way for the Xrays to distinguish between matter that should be transparently seen through, and matter that should be seen. It's ****ing bullshit! :cuss:

He could use his laser eyes, then, to just zap away clothing.


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