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OldSchool 02-26-2014 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Ragged Robin (Post 10456044)
Trade down and pick up Matthews and Abbrederis. 'nuff said

Problem is, we're kind of in a bad spot unless someone falls to us that another team really really wants. Teams who want to trade up will most likely be shooting for the top 15 or top 20. We're just out of that range. I'm sure that someone is going to want to leapfrog us for a wr/safety if there is a run on them early.

saphojunkie 02-27-2014 10:10 AM

Damn, Landry has some big ass hands.

OldSchool 02-27-2014 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by saphojunkie (Post 10456638)
Damn, Landry has some big ass hands.

Too bad he is so slow though. He could be as good as Boldin is though, he makes some insane catches.

saphojunkie 02-27-2014 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by OldSchool (Post 10456649)
Too bad he is so slow though. He could be as good as Boldin is though, he makes some insane catches.

Beckham in the first, landry in the third. All LSU, all the time.

Jakemall 02-27-2014 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by OldSchool (Post 10456160)
Problem is, we're kind of in a bad spot unless someone falls to us that another team really really wants. Teams who want to trade up will most likely be shooting for the top 15 or top 20. We're just out of that range. I'm sure that someone is going to want to leapfrog us for a wr/safety if there is a run on them early.

This is true..you just have to be ready for both possibilities. Dorsey has said pretty clearly that he'll go BPA regardless of what position. It's a good place to be when you can afford to do that as an organization.

planetdoc 02-27-2014 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by OldSchool (Post 10456160)
Problem is, we're kind of in a bad spot

I disagree. A lot of trades happen in the area where the chiefs draft because it is more affordable.

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Originally Posted by OldSchool (Post 10456160)
unless someone falls to us that another team really really wants.

that is the case with any trade. no team will waste ammunition to trade up for a player they dont really really want.

RunKC 02-27-2014 01:54 PM

I'm on board with Sac. Odell Beckham is an incredible talent

planetdoc 02-27-2014 02:00 PM

http://www.kcchiefs.com/news/article...d-b286b23bbb55

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Ferrin: What is your overall evaluation of the entire 2014 NFL Draft Class?

Dorsey: "It’s another sign of the times, larger receivers, who will display the unique ability to have size and speed to play this game. We’ve always believed that size matters and I think this class is no different from the classes of the last couple years."
Based on the 2013 draft, Dorsey draft combine workout warriors. If he is to be believed, than he will be interested in tall (6'+) wrs who had a good workout (i.e. speed). Here are the guys who meet that criteria:

1. Sammy Watkins 6-0.5, 211 4.43
2. Mike Evans 6-4.5, 231 4.53
3. Jordan Matthews 6-3, 212 4.46
4. Paul Richardson 6-0, 175 4.40
5. Martavis Bryant 6-3.5, 211 4.42
6. Donte Moncrief 6-2, 221 4.40
7. Mike Davis 6-0, 197 4.45
8. Jared Abrederis 6-1, 195 4.50
9. Kevin Norwood 6-2, 198 4.48
10. Jeff Janis 6-2.5, 219 4.42
11. Quincy Enunwa 6-2, 225 4.45
12. L'Damian Washington 6-3.5, 195 4.46
13. Shaq Evans 6-1, 213 4.51
14. Matt Hazel 6-1, 198 4.50
15. Derel Walker 6-2, 185 4.50

Frosty 02-27-2014 02:15 PM

Was Dorsey part of the decision to draft Randall Cobb? Cobb is almost the exact same size as Brandin Cooks. :shrug:

planetdoc 02-27-2014 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Frosty (Post 10457159)
Was Dorsey part of the decision to draft Randall Cobb? Cobb is almost the exact same size as Brandin Cooks. :shrug:

great point. Cobb was drafted in 2011, and at that time Dorsey was director of College scouting for Green Bay.

I would think he was part of the decision, but I dont know how much of a final say he had. On his wiki page, Dorsey is credited with drafting Greg Jennings who is also 5'11''.

Guess we will have to see how it plays out and what Dorsey seems to consider "tall."

Frosty 02-27-2014 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by planetdoc (Post 10457166)
great point. Cobb was drafted in 2011, and at that time Dorsey was director of College scouting for Green Bay.

I would think he was part of the decision, but I dont know how much of a final say he had. On his wiki page, Dorsey is credited with drafting Greg Jennings who is also 5'11''.

I might have to adjust my criteria to at least 5'11 instead of at least 6'

Of course, they also have the 6'3" Nelson and 6'1" Jones. Then you look at the WRs that he brought into KC in Avery and Jenkins and now the CFL guy. There doesn't seem to be a pattern with size. He does seem to like speed guys.

planetdoc 02-27-2014 02:28 PM

Jenkins was trading 1 bust for another. Face saving move for both franchises.

CFL guy was cheap (likely replacement for McCluster)

Avery was the need for speed after 2012 wrs were exposed for being slow. Chiefs didnt break the bank for him.

We will have to wait and see if Dorsey's Wr philosophy is the same as his CB philosophy.

Frosty 02-27-2014 02:32 PM

The trade was trading speed for size. The Chiefs didn't need to save face because Dorsey and Reid didn't draft Baldwin. He just didn't fit, so they got what they could for him.

planetdoc 02-27-2014 02:39 PM

I'm not even sure if they thought he didnt "fit."

It might have been that they didnt think he was a good enough football player, and that thought process seems to be validated based on how little he produced in SF.

Frosty 02-27-2014 02:41 PM

BTW, planetdoc, I appreciate what you are saying here but I have serious doubts that Dorsey is just going to draft someone he likes with no input from Reid and what would fit in Reid's system. The Eagles were drafting guys like Maclin and Jackson and GB has a guy like Cobb who would fit into that system. If they go WR, I think it will be someone along those lines and not some tall possession WR.


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