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already eliminated from playoffs.
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Royals Baseball: No more wait till next year
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Royals Baseball: it is finally next year
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I'm guessing it will cost somewhere in the $12 million range (for one season) for either of them. |
Royals Baseball: Kyle Davies Is Not On The Team Anymore
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Anybody have any idea how much it would cost for a ticket to the All-Star Game?
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If Royals even just go .500... I will be happy... **** it, if we don't win the world series, I'll be pissed.
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pretty much have to buy season tickets to guarantee a seat. looks like i'm gonna have to win the lottery. |
There will actually be people attending Kauffman during a Royal's game.... SINCE WHEN?!?!
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Reaper16 has no sense of humor... So he gives me negative rep. Soz sad.
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I want to burn Hawks eyes out with a soldering iron now.
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The Hawk-tionary
Ball four, base hit: Usually when the bases are empty and a walk will be as good as a base hit. Can o'corn: An easy fly ball. The outfielder reaches up to make the catch as easy as if he were pulling a can of corn off the shelf. Catbird seat: When the count favors the hitter, generally 2-0 or 3-1. Chopper, two-hopper: Routine ground ball in the infield. Cinch it up and hunker down: A pressure situtation and time for the hitter or pitcher to take stock of himself and make something happen. Duck snort: A big swing, resulting in a weak hit, usually just over the infield, as is a duck "snorted" the ball out of his beak. Ducks on the pond: Runners on base. Gas: A fastball. Hang wif'em: When a hitter is in a slump and hits a rocket line drive that is caught. Hang in there, the ball will fall one of these days. He got a cookie: A hanging curve ball, an easy pitch to hit for a home run. The hitter usually "devours" it. Picks To Click: DJ, the crew, and I select/pick a player who we think will have the best game. The numbers after our names indicate how many times each of us has been correct. The numbers change because we keep a separate tally for WGN/WCIU games and Comcast games. Right size, wrong shape: A long foul ball, usually with home run distance. Sit back, relax, and strap it down: Get ready for another exciting night of White Sox baseball! You can cancel the postgame show: The first hit of the ball game. The potential no-hitter is over and there will be no need for a show after the game to showcase the pitcher. Hawk |
lewdog................... stop it.
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I just don't know how the girlfriend will feel about me wasting 3-4 hours a day to watch games. |
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It sounds like you might be a little whipped. You have to show her that your value is greater than her's right now and put her in her place. |
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I really liked the broadcast team for the.... Rangers I think (?) that I heard on a Royals game stream last year. |
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NotHawk Hawk Harrelson To those of you complaining about the MMA tweets: I present to you my balls. Feel free to suck them. |
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I think Verlander takes at least a small step back this season, and the Tigers likely step back a little bit with him. With the White Sox down and the Twins a big question mark and the Indians in the same type of boat as the Royals, things could get really interesting. |
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Source: #Orioles and #Braves are making progress on an Adam Jones deal. Hearing Jurrjens is involved. This could mean Crisp to Baltimore. Would you all do this deal? |
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Jurrjens would get beaten like a drum in the AL East. |
I think we now know why Edwin Jackson hasn't signed yet. His agent (Scott Boras) wants at least 5 years and $60MM, and even the Yankees are balking at that. I wouldn't object to $12MM necessarily in a short-term deal, but 5 years at that rate with what he's capable of is a very significant risk.
I think all the teams are staring at each other right now, seeing if anyone will pay him, and if not, how far down will he lower his price before someone blinks? edit: ROFL Apparently at the beginning of the offseason his asking price was $82.5MM. He's just now come down to 60/5 |
Oh, and to those who might say "well its high, but he could help us win, just do it!" I do agree that the Royals ought to be willing to overpay for a couple years, maybe even 3 if a free agent pitcher gives us a shot.
However, ideally you'd like to see our books stay clear 4 or 5 years from now, to give us the maximum flexibility possible to sign/extend our own prospects to long-term deals. We give Edwin Jackson 60/5 and his career starts taking a dive 3 years from now but he's still collecting checks, he might cost us a chance to keep one of our guys. |
I would pay Edwin Jackson $60MM over 5 years in a second. He's young, productive, and durable.
If Gil Meche was worth $55MM over 5 years in 2006, why isn't Jackson worth 5/60? |
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Yup...nailed it. I don't see signing a guy like him (who I am unimpressed with) for more than 3 years. He is too much risk to tie up money with for that long when our younger guys might perform quite well and will need extending. |
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I agree that he pretty much compares to Gil Meche before we greatly overpaid to sign him (though Meche had maybe a few more strikeouts). At that time, we basically had nothing and were destined to suck. We got him just to try to put a credible product out there and sell a few more tickets. We weren't going to do much with that money in years 3 through 5. Now, though we should have some money to spend this year and next, that $12MM might be better-spent on our own guys in a few years. |
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I'm still a big fan of it is finally next year.
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Glass has the money, via revenue sharing, income (personal and team related), and it's time to ****ing spend it. No excuses. Our payroll needs to be around $80M and looking to get to $100M quickly. If not, this is all pissing into the wind in the first place. |
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Go look and see what pitchers have performed similarly over the last three seasons and are also reasonably young. I think you will be surprised at how small the list is. No he's not Verlander but he would definitely be a huge upgrade and is a legit #2/#3 starter, which we could sorely use if we really want to compete in the coming years. I'd rather not put all my eggs in the Montgomery bucket. |
I would be willing to give Jackson pretty big money over a long-term stretch. Not sure 5 years/$60 million is required, since everyone is laughing at that request.
A lucrative 4-year deal with heavy incentives (possibly a vesting fifth year?) could get the job done, though. He's a good pitcher. Solid No. 2/No. 3. Very similar to John Danks in terms of results, and Danks got a similar deal. |
Chewing up a shit ton of innings with decent results is worth a good amount of money, particularly with (we hope) a bunch of young arms in the rotation. So...Jackson's worth might be greater to a team like the Royals than it would be to a more seasoned staff.
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Okay I went and looked and this is the list of pitchers that have 1) averaged 3.7 WAR or better the last three seasons; 2) have averaged at least 200 IP the last three seasons; and 3) are still reasonably young (i.e. around 30 or younger).
<table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" width="156"><colgroup><col style="mso-width-source:userset;mso-width-alt:5705;width:117pt" width="156"> </colgroup><tbody><tr style="height:12.75pt" height="17"> <td style="height:12.75pt;width:117pt" height="17" width="156">Justin Verlander</td> </tr> <tr style="height:12.75pt" height="17"> <td style="height:12.75pt" height="17">CC Sabathia</td> </tr> <tr style="height:12.75pt" height="17"> <td style="height:12.75pt" height="17">Felix Hernandez</td> </tr> <tr style="height:12.75pt" height="17"> <td style="height:12.75pt" height="17">Zack Greinke</td> </tr> <tr style="height:12.75pt" height="17"> <td style="height:12.75pt" height="17">Tim Lincecum</td> </tr> <tr style="height:12.75pt" height="17"> <td style="height:12.75pt" height="17">Dan Haren</td> </tr> <tr style="height:12.75pt" height="17"> <td style="height:12.75pt" height="17">Ubaldo Jimenez</td> </tr> <tr style="height:12.75pt" height="17"> <td style="height:12.75pt" height="17">Jon Lester</td> </tr> <tr style="height:12.75pt" height="17"> <td style="height:12.75pt" height="17">Clayton Kershaw</td> </tr> <tr style="height:12.75pt" height="17"> <td style="height:12.75pt" height="17">Jered Weaver</td> </tr> <tr style="height:12.75pt" height="17"> <td style="height:12.75pt" height="17">Matt Cain</td> </tr> <tr style="height:12.75pt" height="17"> <td style="height:12.75pt" height="17">Cole Hamels</td> </tr> <tr style="height:12.75pt" height="17"> <td style="height:12.75pt" height="17">Edwin Jackson</td> </tr> </tbody></table> |
I would be happy to have Mr.Jackson on this team but not 60 Mill for 5 years maybe around the 40+
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The worst thing KC could do right now is throw Duffy\Crow\Random young arm out there for 150+ innings each so early in their careers... We might as well go ahead and hire a team surgeon for all the arm and shoulder surgeries we'll be performing in the next 2 to 3 years. Jackson is durable, has experience and has shown he can perform at a high level. He's your prototypical #3 pitcher on a contending baseball team. |
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The smart play would be to overpay for players now (next 2-3 years) and try to avoid overpaying tying up that money for when the time comes. |
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I totally agree with Deez. It sucks that KC fans and other small-market teams have become obsessed with worrying over every little penny spent by the owners. This is pro baseball and it costs money. If one $12MM/year contract is too much to risk then Glass seriously needs to sell the team and move on with his life. |
Also: The players many are worrying about are under team control for at least five more years, in some cases six.
Right when Jackson's deal would be coming off the books, worst-case scenario. |
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I guess if you think the profits from this year will go to enhance Glass's lifestyle, never to be seen again, you'd have a point but he's already reportedly promised baseball and the player's union that although we're making money now, he expects to lose money later to break even. Unless he's lying, then paying someone a lot of money does have an impact on the future. Maybe its worth it for this year and next, but 60/5? Similar contracts given to similar pitchers have been regretted more often than not. |
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There is no owner in the entire country who is willing to long-term lose money. EVERY owner is looking to break even at a minimum, including Miami's owner. (If their new park and team doesn't pan out, they will blow it up again) Our market is what it is (though certainly big enough to be the Twins), and it is logical to save money now to spend later. It would not make sense to spend money that does not need to be spent to compete, just for the hell of it. |
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Are we capable or even willing to match a $100-200+MM offer to Hosmer, Moose, and/or Myers when the time comes? |
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I understand the theory of not spending any money for the next few years so we can try to keep our young players. I just don't believe it is the correct strategy. |
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$200MM (in today's dollars) is crazy fantasyland money. Not every star is A-Rod or Pujols, and those massive 10-year deals end up being horrible stupid albatrosses anyway. The Angels are going to feel the crushing weight of a lot of dead money in a few years. |
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Alnorth has a point. Besides the clubs that spend 120mil + constantly, there has to be some strategy to resigning your stars. Especially when so many are going to come up for contract at approx. the same time. 12 mil a year for edwin won't kill you, but add another 2-3 contracts of this caliber (maybe at the trade deadline for an arm, or a bat in the offseason) and you are talking about 1/3 of your payroll being tied up in long term contracts. |
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I think we have a chance to win this division next year, and adding Jackson will help that goal without blocking prospects or giving up valuable talent. |
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