Tom Hardy Is Your New Venom
 

One of the more confusing and intriguing recent developments in our ongoing Superhero Boom has been Sony’s development of their own cinematic universe based on Spider-Man characters … but without Spider-Man in it. They own the rights to those figures, but they’re co-producing Spidey sagas set in the Disney-owned Marvel Cinematic Universe, so the webslinger himself can’t be part of a new, self-contained mythology at Sony. They’re doing the next-best thing by having their own little world that centers around longtime Spider-Man supporting player Venom, and word has come down today that Tom Hardy will be playing him (and his alter ego, Eddie Brock) in 2018’s eponymous Venom. Ruben Fleischer of Zombieland will be directing. This will be Hardy’s return to the superhero genre after his muffled turn as Bane in 2012’s The Dark Knight Rises, and it’s certainly a coup for Sony to grab such a beloved star, but the question remains: Will people see a Spider-flick that doesn’t have the original wall-crawler in it? If anyone can do it, it’s Tom, who is bald now:

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Tom Hardy is Eddie Brock in <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Venom?src=hash">#Venom</a>, the upcoming film from Sony’s Marvel Universe releasing October 5, 2018 – production starts this fall. <a href="https://t.co/OZQqDEvoum">pic.twitter.com/OZQqDEvoum</a></p>&mdash; Sony Pictures (@SonyPictures) <a href="https://twitter.com/SonyPictures/status/865629713225572352">May 19, 2017</a></blockquote>
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**** yes.

Totally. Always loved Venom.

Part of the allure of Venom/Eddie Brock is that he is the antithesis to Spiderman/Peter Parker in every way. I hope they do this justice and its not just a cheap cash grab.

Heard this was going to be a Rated R movie.

Huge...now hope he faces off against Spiderman in a future Movie

Could be really bad ass. How do you have a super villain movie without a hero though?

It would be a quasi horror movie that maybe rated R.

I'll see Hardy in anything so I am down for this . Hopefully we'll eventually get Carnage .

I'm in even more now!!

Wasn't Sony supposed to do this a few years ago tied into the Andrew Garfield Spidey movies? They sort of tried setting it up at the end.


I don't have much faith in Sony to pull this off.

Venom is, or at least fancies himself, a bit of an anti-hero but I'm still not sure how you can have a Venom movie without Spider-Man.

It would be like having a Robin story without Batman.i

After reading up it's seems like They'll use the Flash Thompson secret agent story arc

I thought they might thread it in. Like introduce the symbiote in one of the Infinity War movies and do Venom in the sequel to Spider-Man Homecoming, then maybe spin it out. Though I guess that would be a lot of track for Marvel to lay for movies they might not even be involved with.

Holy shit that would be an incredible turn for the comic genre. If they could pull off a legit horror film with Venom I would shit myself and be happy about it. I'm imaging something like the original Alien. Ok, it would almost be exactly alien. Just imagine his long ass scary tongue and giant ****ing teeth instead of the mouth inside a mouth.

Not exactly a big turn due to Blade 1&2 existing. It's currently more likely to occur with the success of Deadpool and Logan.

I'll be interested to see how they do the CGI mouth. I could see that being tricky to pull off correctly...

After reading a bit as well, that does seem like the logical angle they would take. It sounds like it could be cool alright, but I would rather see a standalone horror film, but that won't happen when they can make more money running with the Deadpoolesque anti-hero thing.

https://www.comicbookmovie.com/comic...FoxPush-151481

Looks like they'll actually venture to the horror genre more so than Blade 1&2 which was slightly glossed over

That appears to say the comic universe is going for a more horror/thriller vibe. I do hope the film follows this same idea. I can't see a Venom-centric storyline really working any other way. Find a middle ground between what a good Spawn movie combined with Predator would be.

Jekyll and Hyde narrative which the symbiot is the metaphor of addiction.

Ah, yeah... I can definitely see that as a viable option. And if done well it could be good.

Here is how I see it going though. Obviously, the suit is going to win him over with its immense power and abilities, but then, in his darkest hour, his humanity will allow him to tame the suit and become more powerful than before and defeat a mighty foe.

It is so overdone that it will most certainly happen!

If they are smart they tie this in to Marvel but "future film" it.

They skip forward with the Venom story and explain the 5 W's later on.

A great example would be including nothing other than Killing Aunt May during the film. That little bit would tie it all in and make fans want to know how and why and when...

The whole point of the Brock/Venom pairing was revenge on spidey.

If they slow play this and don't let the audience know that Venom is killing spidey people until the end....that might be damned good.

The symbiot has a mind altering element to it also that involves inherent schizophrenic and dissociative personality ventures too.

Just read that Carnage will be the villain in the Venom movie.

http://screenrant.com/venom-movie-carnage-villain/

Someone mentioned on Reddit that since this comes out shortly after Infinity Wars that maybe they will do a brief introduction of Venom since it kinda requires Spider Man... you know the whole chicken and egg thing.

**** yes.

Whoa. They're going all in with the symbiotes.... Could be cool...

Venom Movie Draws from John Carpenter & David Cronenberg Films - Screen Rant
https://apple.news/A3ePM96iSPmq15d4VQqx_3w

Sorry can't copy the story properly but some more info.

Spider-Man Cinematic Universe: How Sony Plans to Build on the Success of ‘Homecoming’

Sony has long dreamed of having a cinematic universe of Marvel characters.

This story first appeared in the July 19, 2017 issue of Variety.
In 2014, the studio planned to have “The Amazing Spider-Man 2” launch a series of spinoff films focused on super-villains such as the Green Goblin, Venom and other members of the Sinister Six. However, those plans were put on ice when the sequel disappointed at the box office.

With the success of “Spider-Man: Homecoming,” a reboot of the series that sends Tom Holland as the wall-crawler back to high school, Sony is revisiting its ambitions to create a Spidey-verse. The new film grossed nearly $260 million worldwide in its opening weekend. Sony has already announced a “Venom” stand-alone film, with Tom Hardy playing the super-villain, and is in preproduction on “Silver & Black,” which will pair Black Cat, a jewel thief, with Silver Sable, a mercenary.

As the studio looks beyond “Homecoming,” Columbia Pictures president Sanford Panitch has been immersing himself in the “Spider-Man” comic books and boning up on the backstories of Peter Parker’s various costumed adversaries. The studio has licensed the “Spider-Man” comics from Marvel since the early aughts — it’s a pact that includes rights to roughly 900 characters. “With the Sony universe of Marvel characters, our mission is only to do what’s the absolute best for each individual property,” says Panitch. “I just want to honor the original DNA.”

Ever since Marvel showed the potential of interconnected cinematic universes by having Iron Man, Hulk and other characters team up for Avengers missions before spinning off on individual adventures, other studios have scrambled to come up with their own in-house iterations. Results are mixed. DC Comics’ “Justice League” movies have racked up impressive grosses, but others, such as Universal’s Dark Universe franchise of monster stories, have gotten mashed.

Marvel has empowered Kevin Feige to oversee its film output, while Lucasfilm’s Kathleen Kennedy calls the shots on the “Star Wars” movies. Sony is going in a different direction. The studio isn’t tasking any single exec or producer with building the web of “Spider-Man” characters. Instead, it wants each picture to have a distinct style. That means the characters might be featured in R-rated outings or in lower-budgeted offerings. Sony also isn’t interested in producing just conventional comic-book movies. It sees “Venom” as a spin on a horror film, for instance, while director Gina Prince-Bythewood likens “Silver & Black” to buddy films such as “Thelma & Louise” and “Midnight Run.”

“I wanted to tell the story of two damaged women who are at war with each other but need each other to survive,” says Prince-Bythewood. She’s been looking at the origins of each character in order to explain how Silver Sable became a killer for hire and why Black Cat is drawn to crime. In both cases, she found that the characters were haunted by the deaths of their parents. “Silver & Black” sounds darker than “Spider-Man: Homecoming,” which played like a John Hughes comedy with more spandex. That’s precisely the point, says Panitch.

“Superhero movies have now transcended [the point] where they’re no longer superhero movies per se; they are essentially genre movies,” he says. “It’s not so much that characters have a cape and fly. In “Silver & Black,” these two women are modern and cool. … They may wear costumes, but [they’re] very real and very grounded.”

For “Venom,” Sony has tapped director Ruben Fleischer (“Zombieland”) to bring the menacing arachnoid to the masses. In the comic books and the film Venom is hatched after reporter Eddie Brock (Hardy) bonds with an alien symbiote — a union that gives him deadly powers. “I’ve always been drawn to the more antihero superheroes,” Fleischer says. “There’s a dark element to [Venom] and a wit that has always appealed to me.”

Fleischer says the film will deal with Venom’s origins and with the Jekyll and Hyde relationship

**** Sony. Collaborate with Marvel, or even better yet, sell the rights back to all the characters you can't seem to do shit with back to Marvel so they can do them justice.

900 Characters in the Spider-verse rights?

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Man, you got me excited... a fan made video, though.

Damn. Didn't realize. Sorry about that. :(

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Venom’ Will Boast a Dark and Powerful Carnage

May be the comic movie I've looked forward to the most, after Spider-Man 2.

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Sick

So stoked for this movie. Really hope they don’t **** this up!

He is not really a villain anymore. Was in guardians of the Galaxy last I read.

He will be like Deadpool.

Spider-Man and Venom team up to kill carnage, Carnage being the ultimate baddy for some spiderman

Pray to god Big Kevin gets his deal extended with Disney.

If he does this cluster**** with Sony/Fox/Disney will work out. He'll make sure it does. If they don't pony up with some $$$ after his 2 year extension this could all fall apart...

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Tomorrow. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Venom?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Venom</a> <a href="https://t.co/Rvh80gmhyI">pic.twitter.com/Rvh80gmhyI</a></p>&mdash; Venom Movie (@VenomMovie) <a href="https://twitter.com/VenomMovie/status/961283423582044160?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 7, 2018</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>


Movie trailer coming out today.

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Doesn't show much at all. Slightly disappointed in the trailer. I feel like I haven't seen a trailer at all. :deevee:

It looks like they're going with the story of Eddie Brock having cancer. There could be other reasons why he's in an MRI machine, but it seems like the Symbiote is the only thing that can save him, so he needs it to stave off the Cancer. I like it, adding that into the movie gives him much more purpose and conflicted feelings about it than just, "I hate Peter Parker for getting me fired from my job at the newpaper!" If that scene in the MRI machine is his first transformation, as it appears to be, it looks like it's going to be awesome. Especially since the machine isn't picking up the Symbiote until it reveals itself, or possibly the magnetic waves are causing the symbiote pain which causes Eddie pain, but yeah I wish we would've seen some tease of the suit being on him.

Venom and Gambit for me. As long as those are done properly, that's all I care about. I know Gambit is in development hell right now, so hopefully Disney can turn that around.

I haven't heard anything about a Gambit movie.

Channing Tatum was set to star in it, and I think it's gone through a director/writer or two or three. It's just sitting there right now.

EDIT - Found a recent article on it:

https://io9.gizmodo.com/channing-tat...ird-1821994640

At any given point in time, studios are juggling multiple projects in various stages of development. With some films, the path from inception to theatrical release is a straightforward one. But for others, like Gambit, the road’s... rocky. And that film has just lost its third director.

The Channing Tatum-led Gambit movie has been stuck in development hell for what seems like ages. Previously, directors Rupert Wyatt and Doug Liman were attached, but fans’ hopes were raised last year when word broke that Gore Verbinski was in talks to direct.

With a leading man, a script, and a director, it seemed as if Gambit might have finally been on track to hit theaters. But according to Deadline, Verbinski too is parting ways with the project just as quickly as he became involved. Wyatt exited the film because of scheduling issues, while Liman left to direct Warner Bros.’ Justice League Dark, which he then also left. Verbinski’s reason for leaving Gambit is also scheduling, since the X-Men franchise spinoff is still slated to come out on February 14, 2019.

Obviously, this is a rather major setback for Gambit, but it comes at a point in time when things are much funkier than anyone involved in the project probably ever imagined. Disney recently set plans in motion to acquire 20th Century Fox, meaning that whatever form Gambit is currently in would potentially belong to them. Unless Fox somehow manages to produce the film before the deal is finalized—it’s still unclear how projects already in motion will be affected—but it seems unlikely Disney would be particularly concerned with fast-tracking a film with so little to it (right now) in order to make that impossibly close deadline.

As utterly fantastic as it would be to see Channing Tatum with floppy hair and a Cajun accent, it’s looking like Gambit’s still long, long ways out.

[Deadline]

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Sym-by-oat

I'm intrigued....get definitely looks like Eddie and I love the way they refer to "we" and the look. Hope it is good...also Symbiote wasn't pronounced how I thought. Lol

it reminded me of Virtuosity where the head broad was mispronouncing tech lingo

this looks horrible lol.

agreed

I like Tom Hardy, but I'm not buying him as a journalist.

Also, I hope that's not the finished CGI, because it looks terrible.

Venom CGI face is certainly a bit of a let down...

Tom Hardy is already Bane.

He shouldn't be able to be someone else.

One celebrity, per villain/superhero.

Venom looks like he's made of plastic.

I’m still in. Should be fun, and can’t wait to see what Carnage looks like!

Too late on that front.

Not planning to see it as of now but leaving the door open. The voice and Venom/Brock interaction sounded much better than I thought it would but the look of Venom at the end of the trailer looked pretty raw.

I've got a heavy bias due to them ripping the character away from his Spidey origins though so...

Are they trying to make it look shiny like a Black Widow spider or just bad CGI?

Chris Evans and Michael Keaton would like to have a word with you.

Ryan Reynolds: Hannibal King, Hal Jordan, Wade Wilson

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Chris Evans played multiple superheroes, so...

you can’t see his face as Bane so it doesn’t count. :)

Thanos demands you delete that post...

Yup.. Ben Affleck was Batman and Daredevil
Halle Berry was Catwoman and Storm
Ryan Reynolds was Green Lantern and Deadpool
Nicholas Cage was Ghost Rider and Big Daddy

https://i.imgflip.com/29wmgr.jpg

Renolds has been three. Four if you count his first version of "Deadpool" as its own hero/villain... which arguably you can.

Josh Brolin: Jonah Hex, Thanos, Cable

I’m glad I’m not the only one who was really disappointed in the trailer. This looks like a bust which breaks my balls because I had high hopes for this.

I'm not disappointed, but I am skeptical.

They're completely redoing Venom's origin.

They kind of have to, since Spiderman can't be included. I'm not sure why they would even try making something so closely linked to Spiderman if they have to gut that whole part of the story.

From my understanding, Sony could use Spider-Man in a Venom universe.

Sony's agreement with Marvel, from what I interpret it to be,is that Spider-Man can appear in the MCU and that MCU characters can appear in Spider-Man movies(ala Homecoming).

What Sony's trying to do is stupid. They'd benefit so much if they just incorporated Spider-Man's universe into MCU(like all of the characters) while still having full control over distribution rights, etc.

Yeah, this looks like dog shit. Hope I'm wrong.

I thought it was what you said above but Sony will eventually make their own Spiderman movies again. Marvel only got homecoming? The rest will be Sony ptlroduced with marvel guidance?

Or I am crazy.

The agreement with Sony and Marvel lasts through Homecoming 2.

They could always extend it(which I think Sony would be stupid not to considering they ****ed up the ending of the Maguire trilogy, and ****ed up Amazing Spider-Man).

This is unrelated to the film series, but I'm pumped for the new Sony Spiderman game coming to PS4.

Oh no doubt. I hope I'm wrong as well. Cause Venom is such a dope character but it looks so cringeworthy .

For one, Hardy doesn't strike me as an investigative reporter . He looks like a rugby hooligan/meathead so I just can't take it that seriously( and his accent is all over the map lol) .