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Direckshun 04-06-2013 02:15 PM

Not a rumor: Ryan Lilja may be returning to KC
 
EDIT: No longer a rumor. The Chiefs have reportedly reached out to Lilja.

We're three deep at guard, however. If this is true, I think this portends ugly things for Rodney Hudson's recovery. I think the Chiefs may be angling for a patch at center.

http://www.arrowheadpride.com/2013/4...-of-ryan-lilja

The Return of Ryan Lilja?
posted by The Gentry
Apr 06, 2013

I've never had inside information before, but today I do. It's weird - and it was from out of the blue today - but I have it on good authority that Ryan Lilja is negotiating with the Chiefs to return for the 2013 season. That isn't to say that he would make the cut for the active roster after training camp, but I'd say he's got a damn good shot at that. What would you think to have Lilja back in the fold?
— I ain't saying, cause if I do someone's gonna get mad

penbrook 04-06-2013 02:17 PM

This would be a great signing.

Bowser 04-06-2013 02:17 PM

Well, this could potentially throw yet another wrench in the entire draft breakdown.

BlackHelicopters 04-06-2013 02:17 PM

Alex Smith is happy.

TribalElder 04-06-2013 02:20 PM

is he playing or coaching or coaching while playing

BigMeatballDave 04-06-2013 02:21 PM

I'd really like some more info on Hudson's leg.

Mother****erJones 04-06-2013 02:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave (Post 9561650)
I'd really like some more info on Hudson's leg.

According to Dickbag Athan he shredded his knee ROFL LMAO :facepalm:

spanky 52 04-06-2013 02:24 PM

Doesn't sound good for Hudson.

-King- 04-06-2013 02:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave (Post 9561650)
I'd really like some more info on Hudson's leg.

Rodney Hudson's leg is the entire lower extremity or limb of his body, including the foot, thigh and even the hip or gluteal region; however, the precise definition in human anatomy refers only to the section of the lower limb extending from the knee to the ankle.

Rodney used his legs for standing, walking, jumping, running, kicking, and similar activities, and they constitute a significant portion of his mass.

penbrook 04-06-2013 02:26 PM

Hmm I wonder if this puts a ripple in their draft plans.

Hog's Gone Fishin 04-06-2013 02:35 PM

I hope this means we draft Jordan instead of JR #2

BigMeatballDave 04-06-2013 02:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by -King- (Post 9561654)
Rodney Hudson's leg is the entire lower extremity or limb of his body, including the foot, thigh and even the hip or gluteal region; however, the precise definition in human anatomy refers only to the section of the lower limb extending from the knee to the ankle.

Rodney used his legs for standing, walking, jumping, running, kicking, and similar activities, and they constitute a significant portion of his mass.

LMAO ****ing smart ass

Mother****erJones 04-06-2013 02:37 PM

He's not an OT so no effect on the draft.

splatbass 04-06-2013 02:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by penbook (Post 9561655)
Hmm I wonder if this puts a ripple in their draft plans.

He is not a long term solution, so I don't know why it would change their plans.

Hog's Gone Fishin 04-06-2013 02:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mother****erJones (Post 9561668)
He's not an OT so no effect on the draft.

Wrong! This means we are absolutely NOT drafting Geno.

Mother****erJones 04-06-2013 02:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hog Farmer (Post 9561673)
Wrong! This means we are absolutely NOT drafting Geno.

ROFL, I know we likely aren't. I'm not in denial.

penbrook 04-06-2013 02:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mother****erJones (Post 9561668)
He's not an OT so no effect on the draft.

Yea thats true. Lilga was tearing it up last year playing center and he never played it before.

Well our OT right now are Albert Stephenson Draheim

Lilga might be center or LG if there thinking about moving Allen to RT.

penbrook 04-06-2013 02:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mother****erJones (Post 9561674)
ROFL, I know we likely aren't. I'm not in denial.

Im still putting it at 33% likely we will draft him.

Brock 04-06-2013 02:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by -King- (Post 9561654)
Rodney Hudson's leg is the entire lower extremity or limb of his body, including the foot, thigh and even the hip or gluteal region; however, the precise definition in human anatomy refers only to the section of the lower limb extending from the knee to the ankle.

Rodney used his legs for standing, walking, jumping, running, kicking, and similar activities, and they constitute a significant portion of his mass.

:clap:

gblowfish 04-06-2013 02:42 PM

Draft a center with pick 4 or 5.
Lilja cost us the Baltimore game with Casshole fumbling on the one foot line.
He should hang it up, and let a young center get a year of experience.

Bowser 04-06-2013 02:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mother****erJones (Post 9561668)
He's not an OT so no effect on the draft.

So he goes to guard, Schwartz goes to right tackle, and Albert stays where he is.

Albert
Lilja
Hudson
Asomoah
Schwartz

Stephenson is the swing tackle
Allen is the swing guard

No Joeckel/Fisher

penbrook 04-06-2013 02:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 9561681)
So he goes to guard, Schwartz goes to right tackle, and Albert stays where he is.

Albert
Lilja
Hudson
Asomoah
Schwartz

Stephenson is the swing tackle
Allen is the swing guard

No Joeckel/Fisher

:clap:

Plus we got Draheim as a backup.

penbrook 04-06-2013 02:46 PM

Just depends who Dorsey fells the BPA is.

Does he value a tackle more or does he value a qb more.

Mother****erJones 04-06-2013 02:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 9561681)
So he goes to guard, Schwartz goes to right tackle, and Albert stays where he is.

Albert
Lilja
Hudson
Asomoah
Schwartz

Stephenson is the swing tackle
Allen is the swing guard

No Joeckel/Fisher

Where have you heard Schwartz is the RT? I know he can play it but he's best at guard I think.

BigMeatballDave 04-06-2013 02:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gblowfish (Post 9561680)
Draft a center with pick 4 or 5.
Lilja cost us the Baltimore game with Casshole fumbling on the one foot line.
He should hang it up, and let a young center get a year of experience.

Blaming Lilja for Cassel fumbling? Huh?

gblowfish 04-06-2013 02:47 PM

They were equally to blame in my humble opinion....

penbrook 04-06-2013 02:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mother****erJones (Post 9561690)
Where have you heard Schwartz is the RT? I know he can play it but he's best at guard I think.

Thats what he is projecting. He said he can play either position but feels more comfortable at Guard.

penbrook 04-06-2013 02:48 PM

I truly believe Stephenson is ready for RT.

gblowfish 04-06-2013 02:48 PM

May the Schwartz be with us!

Mother****erJones 04-06-2013 02:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by penbook (Post 9561694)
Thats what he is projecting. He said he can play either position but feels more comfortable at Guard.

I know. I just think he'll be a guard not OT. Could be an OT in a pinch.

Hammock Parties 04-06-2013 02:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by penbook (Post 9561696)
I truly believe Stephenson is ready for RT.

You're a homer.

He hasn't shown one speck of ability to play in the NFL.

penbrook 04-06-2013 02:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mother****erJones (Post 9561698)
I know. I just think he'll be a guard not OT. Could be an OT in a pinch.

I think Schwartz will be the RG. Allen has the size for a tackle though. I still feel like Stephenson is ready to start ar RT.

Hog's Gone Fishin 04-06-2013 02:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave (Post 9561650)
I'd really like some more info on Hudson's leg.

His leg is so ****ed up it makes Wares leg injury look like a bruise.

Bowser 04-06-2013 02:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mother****erJones (Post 9561690)
Where have you heard Schwartz is the RT? I know he can play it but he's best at guard I think.

It's been discussed on here that he grades out well at either right guard or tackle. He could play either for us, I believe. If he took the right guard position, I suppose they could put Stephenson at right tackle, have Allen be the swing tackle and Asomoah be the swing guard.

Either way, no Joeckel/Fisher

Mother****erJones 04-06-2013 02:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wonton Prejudice (Post 9561702)
You're a homer.

He hasn't shown one speck of ability to play in the NFL.

What was his PFF rating? And how many sacks and pressures did he allow?

Mother****erJones 04-06-2013 02:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 9561707)
It's been discussed on here that he grades out well at either right guard or tackle. He could play either for us, I believe. If he took the right guard position, I suppose they could put Stephenson at right tackle, have Allen be the swing tackle and Asomoah be the swing guard.

Either way, no Joeckel/Fisher

Either way, I'd be happy Cotton!

Bowser 04-06-2013 02:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wonton Prejudice (Post 9561702)
You're a homer.

He hasn't shown one speck of ability to play in the NFL.

wat

penbrook 04-06-2013 02:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wonton Prejudice (Post 9561702)
You're a homer.

He hasn't shown one speck of ability to play in the NFL.

Last year he showed flashes and has some major potential. He is a good run blocker just needs to work on pass blocking.

penbrook 04-06-2013 02:53 PM

Asamoah is a beast. He is a starter. Just depends if he will be LG or RG.

ChiefMojo 04-06-2013 02:54 PM

Stephenson showed pretty well for a rookie IMO. I think he has a legit shot at starting at RT.

Hammock Parties 04-06-2013 02:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by penbook (Post 9561713)
Last year he showed flashes and has some major potential. He is a good run blocker just needs to work on pass blocking.

He played one game at RT last season.

The rest of his time was spent sucking ass at LT.

****, he managed to give up 5 sacks in only 379 plays. That's awful. Multiply that by 3 for what he'd do as a starter.

penbrook 04-06-2013 02:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefMojo (Post 9561719)
Stephenson showed pretty well for a rookie IMO. I think he has a legit shot at starting at RT.

O line will be

Albert
Schwartz or Allen
Hudson or Lilga
Asamoah
Stephenson

Thats a pretty good o line. We were ranked above average last year with the 13th best o line.

penbrook 04-06-2013 02:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wonton Prejudice (Post 9561720)
He played one game at RT last season.

The rest of his time was spent sucking ass at LT.

****, he managed to give up 5 sacks in only 379 plays. That's awful. Multiply that by 3 for what he'd do as a starter.

Because he was LT. He isnt ready for LT. He is ready for RT though plus only 5 Im surprised it wasnt more because of our ****fest of qbs.

Red Brooklyn 04-06-2013 03:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by -King- (Post 9561654)
Rodney Hudson's leg is the entire lower extremity or limb of his body, including the foot, thigh and even the hip or gluteal region; however, the precise definition in human anatomy refers only to the section of the lower limb extending from the knee to the ankle.

Rodney used his legs for standing, walking, jumping, running, kicking, and similar activities, and they constitute a significant portion of his mass.

ROFL

Hammock Parties 04-06-2013 03:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by penbook (Post 9561729)
He is ready for RT

Based on...you being a homer...and nothing else. Nothing...

penbrook 04-06-2013 03:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wonton Prejudice (Post 9561759)
Based on...you being a homer...and nothing else. Nothing...

Based on what he showed last year.

BossChief 04-06-2013 03:29 PM

That would be wise usage of resources to bring Lilja back, if he is interested in returning.

He can give you quality starts at left guard.

Hammock Parties 04-06-2013 03:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by penbook (Post 9561768)
Based on what he showed last year.

Since he played one completely underwhelming game at RT, no.

He sucked last year and let's not sugar coat it.

RunKC 04-06-2013 03:38 PM

The real question is will Reid teach him not to **** up a snap?

penbrook 04-06-2013 03:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 9561805)
The real question is will Reid teach him not to **** up a snap?

It was Cassells fault.

BigMeatballDave 04-06-2013 03:46 PM

I don't give 2 shits about Lilja, but this fumble is clearly on Cassel.

And Fouts is a moron.

http://www.baltimoreravens.com/video...5-eb7fc99c4867

Hammock Parties 04-06-2013 03:49 PM

The "Reid will fix everything" mantra is getting old.

Coaches can't fix shitty players.

Bowser 04-06-2013 03:49 PM

Yeah, Cassel ****ed that up. Isn't that the play that he audibled to the QB sneak?

Ugh. It doesn't even matter. Have fun with him, Vikings.

penbrook 04-06-2013 03:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wonton Prejudice (Post 9561830)
The "Reid will fix everything" mantra is getting old.

Coaches can't fix shitty players.

Exactly thats why Reid cut his sorry ass.

Saccopoo 04-06-2013 04:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave (Post 9561650)
I'd really like some more info on Hudson's leg.

Hudson broke his leg. It didn't require surgery. He was on crutches for about a month and then in a boot for another one/two months.

He should be ready to go full force when training camp opens.

BigMeatballDave 04-06-2013 04:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Saccopoo (Post 9561854)
Hudson broke his leg. It didn't require surgery. He was on crutches for about a month and then in a boot for another one/two months.

He should be ready to go full force when training camp opens.

Cool. Thanks for the info.

Mother****erJones 04-06-2013 04:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 9561831)
Yeah, Cassel ****ed that up. Isn't that the play that he audibled to the QB sneak?

Ugh. It doesn't even matter. Have fun with him, Vikings.

I almost pitched my remote into the TV. Amazing how ***** kept trotting his sorry ass out there. I'd rather of sucked with stanzi than Cassel. And I'm in no way a stanzi fan.

Jamie 04-06-2013 04:26 PM

I don't get why everyone seems to think Schwartz will play guard. I get that he says he's more comfortable there, but he's played RT before pretty well, and that's where we need the most help. Basically this is how I see each o-line starter shaking out, from more likely to less likely (not a depth chart):

LT: draft pick, Albert
LG: Allen, Lilja
C: Hudson, Lilja
RG: Asamoah
RT: Schwartz, Allen, draft pick, Stephenson

OrtonsPiercedTaint 04-06-2013 04:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 9561805)
The real question is will Reid teach him how to keep his weight up?

Slight adjustment because I can

Direckshun 04-09-2013 02:20 PM

It is a rumor no more.

Teicher now reports that the Chiefs have approached Lilja.

Direckshun 04-09-2013 02:25 PM

Teicher also writes that Lilja was and is receptive.

Two things:

1. This is bad, bad, bad news for Rodney Hudson's recovery.

2. The Chiefs must have hated the crop of centers this year in the draft.

BossChief 04-09-2013 02:34 PM

I bet this has a lot more to do with Allen...especially if they are gonna go

Albert
Lilja
Hudson
Asamoah

And then let Allen and Stephenson battle to death for the right tackle spot.

Ragnar Lodbrok 04-09-2013 02:35 PM

Wow, Rodney is toast.

mcaj22 04-09-2013 02:53 PM

guess this is what they think about all the wasted picks scooter had on offensive lineman if they have to bring Lilja back to start.

sad really

BigMeatballDave 04-09-2013 02:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ragnar Lodbrok (Post 9571741)
Wow, Rodney is toast.

How do you figure?

BigMeatballDave 04-09-2013 02:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 9571683)
Teicher also writes that Lilja was and is receptive.

Two things:

1. This is bad, bad, bad news for Rodney Hudson's recovery.

Or, maybe because Hudson is the only C on the roster.

****ing drama queens.

Sassy Squatch 04-09-2013 03:01 PM

He signed already?

RealSNR 04-09-2013 03:01 PM

The Chiefs want to win now and (let's just assume) Rodney Hudson isn't recovering very well.

They bring in Ryan Lilja to start at center when he did a pretty meh job of it last year?

Doesn't make sense to me.

patteeu 04-09-2013 03:03 PM

I'm not really thrilled by this news. Lilja adds veteran leadership (especially if Albert is gone), I guess, but I was hoping we'd have upgraded the interior line by now.

Sassy Squatch 04-09-2013 03:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by patteeu (Post 9571867)
I'm not really thrilled by this news. Lilja adds veteran leadership (especially if Albert is gone), I guess, but I was hoping we'd have upgraded the interior line by now.

Guess I g Asamoah and Schwartz are the guards.

ShowtimeSBMVP 04-09-2013 03:05 PM

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Chiefs have approached Lilja about returning, according to source
April 9
By ADAM TEICHER
The Kansas City Star

The Chiefs have approached Ryan Lilja about playing another season, and the veteran offensive lineman was receptive to the idea, according to a person with knowledge of the situation.
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Lilja, who played in high school at Shawnee Mission Northwest and in college at Kansas State, said immediately after the end of last season that he would retire. Lilja, 31, has played nine NFL seasons, six for Indianapolis and the last three for the Chiefs.

The three-year contract Lilja signed when he joined the Chiefs has expired, and he is an unrestricted free agent.

Lilja said at the end of last season that he would have surgeries on his knee and toe that he had put off until his career was finished. He said at the time it was unlikely he would eventually reconsider his decision to retire.

“Physically, you hit a wall and your body kind of tells you to start thinking about it,’’ he said. “I wanted to be in a place where I was at peace with my decision and could move forward and never regret it. I’m there.’’

Lilja was a guard for the first eight seasons of his NFL career before moving to center last year after the Chiefs lost Rodney Hudson. It’s unclear what position Lilja would play. The Chiefs have Hudson returning at center and Jeff Allen and Jon Asamoah returning at guard.

The Chiefs also signed Geoff Schwartz, who can play both guard and tackle, as a free agent.

The Chiefs begin offseason practice next week, when they hold a three-day minicamp at their Truman Sports Complex facility.

Read more here: http://www.kansascity.com/2013/04/09...#storylink=cpy

mcaj22 04-09-2013 03:06 PM

i think the LG position is wide open as they probably think Jeff Allen is terrible there. Rightfully so, and thus, need a LG.

HemiEd 04-09-2013 03:07 PM

Oh ****ing great, hopefully he doesn't make it out of training camp.

DaFace 04-09-2013 03:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 9571857)
He signed already?

My fault. Got a little carried away on the title edit.

patteeu 04-09-2013 03:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 9571889)
My fault. Got a little carried away on the title edit.

Ban.

Rausch 04-09-2013 03:17 PM

Double damn. Was really hopeful about Hudson and no fan of Labjia...

RealSNR 04-09-2013 03:18 PM

The Chiefs are probably thinking about a lineup of this:

Albert
Lilja
Hudson
Asamoah
Schwartz

Which... is not too far off from last year's starters.

If anything, they're not comfortable just giving the starting job to Allen at LG. I sure as hell wouldn't.

ModSocks 04-09-2013 03:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave (Post 9571848)
Or, maybe because Hudson is the only C on the roster.

****ing drama queens.

This.

This doesn't mean shit about Hudson, just means we need to find a b/u center and they like Lilja.

RunKC 04-09-2013 03:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SNR (Post 9571908)
The Chiefs are probably thinking about a lineup of this:

Albert
Lilja
Hudson
Asamoah
Schwartz

Which... is not too far off from last year's starters.

If anything, they're not comfortable just giving the starting job to Allen at LG. I sure as hell wouldn't.

What about Stephenson?

Frosty 04-09-2013 03:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 9571917)
This.

This doesn't mean shit about Hudson, just means we need to find a b/u center and they like Lilja.

Or it means they think Allen is a disaster at LG and they want some depth there.


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