I see where you are trying to come from slapnutz, but it’s a defense that you need to prove.

You are definitely coming at it from a defense attorneys point. Trying to prove why he is innocent or “they”.

That being said, when you read a bit about the story, after getting confessions and multiple other statements, the cops felt they had plenty of evidence to convict, but the prosecuting attorney dropped the charges for “lack of evidence”

Sure we’ve all had a real life experience of getting blacked out and passing out in gross conditions, bathroom floors for example.. but it’s a stretch to say when they dropped her off she said she didn’t want to go inside and needed to wait. Otherwise she would’ve probably been found on the porch and not on the lawn. The lawn shows they pretty much left her out and drove off and she made it as far as the lawn.

Also going inside and needing to throw up so she goes back outside? Why would you go outside in the freezing cold when you have a bathroom inside?

Lastly, so you’re saying she committed suicide over the guilt of having consensual sex at such a young age and trying to destroy other peoples lives, rather than because she simply was raped, told people, and it became a huge story that revolves around her every day life?

This is actually a breath of fresh air knowing there is someone smart enough to actually have a grown up conversation about this instead of just spewing shit out they don't even know...there is alot of stuff about evidence that is not out bc of the age of people...

About being drunk and going back outside in the freezing cold why do we do any of the things we do when we are drunk. I'm not saying this is a fact and this is what happened like other people are saying this is a fact that she got thrown out and they drove off... In all honesty there are three sides to this story the girls side the boys side and the truth and none of us know any of it.

About the suicide I'm sure it had some to do with it one way or the other... But If all these people in here who know so much about this would actually know anything they would know she was getting stalked before her suicide and she would rather have killed herself than let the stalker kill her. Or it could have been her very last post before she died about how her mom was pimping her out to her mom was trying to pimp her out to her ex bf

The fact that you seem to know so much about the case, AND are defending the rapists leads me to think that you either are one of the rapists, or are related to them. It could also be possible that you've raped someone and this is hitting too close to home and so you feel compelled to defend the rapists.

Modern CP dog piles have even gone soft. :Poke:

I don’t think she ever made it into the house in the first place. But if you think she did, it can’t exactly be, well we all do stupid things when we are drunk. We care less, and care a bit more about what we ourselves want when we are drunk. I think if she was that drunk, she wouldn’t have went back outside to throw up, she would’ve cared less and not have cared what her mom thought of her drinking, and she would’ve just thrown up in the bathroom. I think the “they left her outside because she said she wanted to sober up before going in” is a better argument to stick to even though I don’t think that’s what happened.

I did see that she had a stalker, and I did read the peoples article on it how her friends said it played a major role in her suicide.

Where’s the source about her post of her mom pimping her out to her ex boyfriend? I cannot find that, but if true, it shows what kind of mother she is, and could actually play a role in helping your stance, imo, but I need to see the factual source/post first

I'm not wading into this storm, but the local rumors that come out of that shithole won't be found in any national source. If you just accept that the factory is the damn devil, you might be in the right ballpark.

The poor girl had no one in her camp to right the ship behind the scenes. I wish she would have cut all ties and moved to a quiet place where no one knew her name instead of becoming the face of a campaign and allowing old strings from home to stay attached. Maybe she felt like she saved enough lives that hers was worth the trade. Either way, allowing those around her and the event to control her daily life was nearly guaranteed to be an ugly path into a grave.

Don’t forget to paddle upstream in the Nodaway valley. Not too far north of Maryville.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Villisca_axe_murders

Her mother addressed Daisy's last posts on Facebook.

"My daughter Catherine Daisy Coleman committed suicide tonight. If you saw crazy / messages and posts it was because I called the police to check on her," Melinda wrote on Facebook. "She was my best friend and amazing daughter. I think she had to make make it seem like I could live without her. I can't. I wish I could have taken the pain from her! She never recovered from what those boys did to her and it's just not fair. My baby girl is gone."

I mean tbh, that doesn't do anything for me if I'm trying to be objective and have a jurors approach.

If she was pimping her out, shes saying exactly the things most others would say once the victim commits suicide.

I'm still waiting on the source for this alleged post however of the daughter saying her mother was pimping her out to her ex bf.

TBH its just like that old saying. When you're dying, you would try to leave a message of who your killer is. If this daughters last post (which still hasn't been provided) was saying that her mother was trying to pimp her out, I would very much take that into account on many things.

Wow. That list of suspects was frightening. I'd read one and think, "Well, it's obvious that guy did it." And then I'd read the next one and think, "No, it had to be that guy instead." Southwest Iowa was crawling with axe-murdering serial killers in those days.

True but her mother said crazy 'posts' so I'm sure there were other posts that were clearly not making much sense. Daisy obviously had serious mental health issues as most rape victims do.

This is a blatant sign of small town corruption. Those rapists should be in jail right now. Sad story.

Daisys mom killed herself. Wow


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Melinda Coleman, the mother of Daisy Coleman from &#39;Audrie and Daisy&#39;, has also died by suicide <a href="https://t.co/0907swdle7">https://t.co/0907swdle7</a> <a href="https://t.co/kOUou3XuNW">pic.twitter.com/kOUou3XuNW</a></p>&mdash; Rolling Stone (@RollingStone) <a href="https://twitter.com/RollingStone/status/1336008862286155778?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 7, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Holy shit

Damn.