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Dunit35 02-05-2011 07:57 PM
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Originally Posted by jbwm89 (Post 7409134)
looking at getting a handgun for my graduation gift. Buddy of mine that works at a gunshop recommended a Glock 19 or a Ruger p95, what does everyone think?
I recommend the Ruger and Fraz probably would too.

They shoot great and aren't pricey.

He paid 300 new, I paid 280 used.

HonestChieffan 02-05-2011 08:05 PM
love my glock, sig, smith,and baretta

notorious 02-05-2011 08:08 PM
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Originally Posted by frazod (Post 7409129)
I was raised around guns all my life, so having one is as natural to me as breathing.

This.


And I'm sure you were taught the correct way to handle guns. People that didn't grow up with them can be dangerous as hell.

Frazod 02-05-2011 08:18 PM
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Originally Posted by jbwm89 (Post 7409134)
looking at getting a handgun for my graduation gift. Buddy of mine that works at a gunshop recommended a Glock 19 or a Ruger p95, what does everyone think?
Ruger P95 is the pistol I was talking about earlier. Wonderful gun. And for what you'd pay for just the Glock, you could get a Ruger fully tricked out with a top of the line laser sight and holster. See below.

WV 02-05-2011 08:19 PM
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Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 7409038)
I never owned a gun and never felt unsafe. But, thats just me, maybe...
Safety is part of it for sure, but probably the bigger reason I have guns just because I love them! Hell I'd have even more if it weren't such an expensive hobby.

jbwm89 02-05-2011 08:35 PM
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Originally Posted by frazod (Post 7409187)
Ruger P95 is the pistol I was talking about earlier. Wonderful gun. And for what you'd pay for just the Glock, you could get a Ruger fully tricked out with a top of the line laser sight and holster. See below.
Thanks that sounds like the right fit for me. So I should expect to pay right around the $300 range for a P95?

Groves 02-05-2011 08:49 PM
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Originally Posted by jbwm89 (Post 7409134)
looking at getting a handgun for my graduation gift. Buddy of mine that works at a gunshop recommended a Glock 19 or a Ruger p95, what does everyone think?
I recommend you buy the glock, and then fall in love with the Ruger. Such blinding love that you give the glock to me.

jbwm89 02-05-2011 09:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Groves (Post 7409265)
I recommend you buy the glock, and then fall in love with the Ruger. Such blinding love that you give the glock to me.
haha I will let you know if that happens.

Fish 02-05-2011 09:12 PM
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Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 7409038)
I never owned a gun and never felt unsafe. But, thats just me, maybe...
Personal defense has never been my reasoning for owning firearms. I just love to shoot. Whether it's hunting or just plinking at some tin cans. Started at the age of 6 with a trusty Daisy BB gun and about 3 square miles of Kansas wilderness. And I've just grown my collection since then. I can't say that any gun I've bought has been for the sole purpose of home defense. I've got several that would work well for it if need be, but they weren't bought for that reason.

Frazod 02-05-2011 09:51 PM
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Originally Posted by jbwm89 (Post 7409238)
Thanks that sounds like the right fit for me. So I should expect to pay right around the $300 range for a P95?
That's exactly what Bud's is selling them for.

http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/p...ducts_id/18161

The stainless is about $20 more, but I didn't give a shit about that.

I do highly recommend you get the Model 3 grip. Well worth the $11.

http://www.pistoleer.com/pachmayr/slipon_grips/

teedubya 02-05-2011 09:56 PM
AK or SKS? Which would you guys recommend?

Munson 02-05-2011 09:58 PM
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Originally Posted by teedubya (Post 7409421)
AK or SKS? Which would you guys recommend?
I would go with the AK, even though I own a SKS(which I love).

trndobrd 02-05-2011 10:07 PM
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Originally Posted by jbwm89 (Post 7409134)
looking at getting a handgun for my graduation gift. Buddy of mine that works at a gunshop recommended a Glock 19 or a Ruger p95, what does everyone think?
If you buddy can line up, or rent, several different guns for you to try would be your best bet. Most pistols from major manufacturers are safe and reliable. Next to cost, comfort and feel are the most important considerations. Frazod loves his Ruger, the width, grip size, etc. might make it a miserable experience for me to shoot. You never know for sure until you take it for a test drive.

Pants 02-05-2011 10:13 PM
http://nwatactical.com/images/sig-55...wat-diopte.jpgIs on the way. :D

Dunit35 02-05-2011 10:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Pants (Post 7409441)
Hell yeah bro

Been trying to talk my S.O. to get one with our income tax, she thinks we need a couch instead.

Frazod 02-05-2011 10:14 PM
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Originally Posted by teedubya (Post 7409421)
AK or SKS? Which would you guys recommend?
AK's are a blast to shoot. You can pay a little or a lot for them. My best friend has an SKS, and his particular model takes stripper clips (instead of a magazine) which sucks shit. Of course, my best friend is notoriously cheap.

Personally I have an entry-level AR that I paid about $700 for (DMPS Panther Oracle). Very accurate, fun as hell to shoot. Bud's has a deal on them right now.

Frazod 02-05-2011 10:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Pants (Post 7409441)
Sweet. A friend of mine at work has one and loves it.

trndobrd 02-05-2011 10:15 PM
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Originally Posted by frazod (Post 7409034)
Fun day at the range. The Veridian is awesome - pretty straight forward - point and shoot. Hole goes where the green dot is.

But I must say, I LOVE my new Ruger. Love it. Ran a couple of hundred rounds through it this afternoon. Very accurate, fun to shoot, light recoil. Magazines easy to load (actually easier to load manually than with the loader thing that came with it). The $10 rubber slip-on grip I added took care of all the grip issues - feels great in my hand. Trigger does have a bit of play, but once I got used to it it was no big deal. Easy to stage shots. Breaks down quickly and easily.

For $300 (price at Buds and what I paid locally), you can't go wrong with this bad boy, IMO. :thumb:

How difficult was the Veridian to set up? Did you notice any drift after putting a few rounds through the pistol?

The last pistol I had with a laser was one of the first gen red lasers hard mounted on a Glock 23 (pre rail days). I could get it dialed in and within half a magazine it was off...way off. I'm thinking about trying the laser route on my home gun if the newer lasers are worth the money.

Dunit35 02-05-2011 10:16 PM
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Originally Posted by frazod (Post 7409444)
AK's are a blast to shoot. You can pay a little or a lot for them. My best friend has an SKS, and his particular model takes stripper clips (instead of a magazine) which sucks shit. Of course, my best friend is notoriously cheap.

Personally I have an entry-level AR that I paid about $700 for (DMPS Panther Oracle). Very accurate, fun as hell to shoot. Bud's has a deal on them right now.
really? Can you find the link before I do?

Frazod 02-05-2011 10:18 PM
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Originally Posted by trndobrd (Post 7409447)
How difficult was the Veridian to set up? Did you notice any drift after putting a few rounds through the pistol?

The last pistol I had with a laser was one of the first gen red lasers hard mounted on a Glock 23 (pre rail days). I could get it dialed in and within half a magazine it was off...way off. I'm thinking about trying the laser route on my home gun if the newer lasers are worth the money.
Well, let's put it this way - I was able to do it myself with no problems. :D I am not exactly mechanically inclined.

And I didn't notice any drift at all. It is very securely mounted. Best part about the one I got would have to be the strobe feature. That will definitely ruin anybody's shit that you point it at.

Pants 02-05-2011 10:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Dunit35 (Post 7409443)
Hell yeah bro

Been trying to talk my S.O. to get one with our income tax, she thinks we need a couch instead.
If you order one from CDNN, you get a free Sig 522 with it. Would be perfect for your fiance. Just saying. :)

Frazod 02-05-2011 10:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Dunit35 (Post 7409450)
really? Can you find the link before I do?
Looks like you're SOL, at least from Buds. They're out of them.

However, I got mine at the local Cabella's for $700.

Dunit35 02-05-2011 10:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Pants (Post 7409453)
If you order one from CDNN, you get a free Sig 522 with it. Would be perfect for your fiance. Just saying. :)
you got a link?

I'd really like to surprise her with one.

Dunit35 02-05-2011 10:22 PM
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Originally Posted by frazod (Post 7409454)
Looks like you're SOL, at least from Buds. They're out of them.

However, I got mine at the local Cabella's for $700.
I'm finding a bunch on buds, but no clue if that's even close to what you're talking about.

Dunit35 02-05-2011 10:22 PM
http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/p...ducts_id/61617

Pants 02-05-2011 10:22 PM
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Originally Posted by frazod (Post 7409451)
Best part about the one I got would have to be the strobe feature. That will definitely ruin anybody's shit that you point it at.
LMAO

Those things are ridiculous.

trndobrd 02-05-2011 10:23 PM
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Originally Posted by frazod (Post 7409451)
Well, let's put it this way - I was able to do it myself with no problems. :D I am not exactly mechanically inclined.

And I didn't notice any drift at all. It is very securely mounted. Best part about the one I got would have to be the strobe feature. That will definitely ruin anybody's shit that you point it at.

Cool. Thanks for the review.

Pants 02-05-2011 10:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Dunit35 (Post 7409455)
you got a link?

I'd really like to surprise her with one.
Kraus linked it in this thread (so all credit to him). Here it is:

http://site.cdnninvestments.com/CDNN2010-6/index.html

Frazod 02-05-2011 10:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Dunit35 (Post 7409456)
I'm finding a bunch on buds, but no clue if that's even close to what you're talking about.
I'm just talking about my particular model. I can't imagine there's much difference between it and the others. About two months ago they were selling Oracles for around $600. Which kind of annoyed me.

Frazod 02-05-2011 10:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Pants (Post 7409458)
LMAO

Those things are ridiculous.
At least their last memory would be of a blinding light, instead of a fat guy in his underwear pulling a trigger. :evil:

Dunit35 02-05-2011 10:26 PM
http://site.cdnninvestments.com/CDNN2010-6/index.html

This it pants?

Pants 02-05-2011 10:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Dunit35 (Post 7409467)
Yeah, the classic SWAT one (with the longer quadrail) is $1449, the Patrol one is $1399. I didn't ask for the price of the regular handguard ones, but I'm sure they're cheaper.

Pants 02-05-2011 10:37 PM
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Originally Posted by frazod (Post 7409465)
At least their last memory would be of a blinding light, instead of a fat guy in his underwear pulling a trigger. :evil:
Yeah, I saw a bit about those on the Military channel, it's ridiculous how debilitating they are. I mean how do you counteract it? You really don't.

Dunit35 02-05-2011 10:38 PM
I see it.

There must be 10 choices of the ARs.

A S&M for 850 marked 39% off.

Frazod 02-05-2011 10:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Pants (Post 7409487)
Yeah, I saw a bit about those on the Military channel, it's ridiculous how debilitating they are. I mean how do you counteract it? You really don't.
Unless you're wearing a welding mask, you're pretty much ****ed.

Pants 02-05-2011 10:40 PM
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Originally Posted by frazod (Post 7409490)
Unless you're wearing a welding mask, you're pretty much ****ed.
Yeap.

Dunit35 02-05-2011 10:40 PM
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Originally Posted by frazod (Post 7409490)
Unless you're wearing a welding mask, you're pretty much ****ed.
We all know the best burglars are the ones carrying welding masks. They've grown to adapt to people like yourself.

Pants 02-05-2011 10:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Dunit35 (Post 7409494)
We all know the best burglars are the ones carrying welding masks. They've grown to adapt to people like yourself.
Yeah, robbing people without being able to see shit is a new art. Those crazy kids nowadays...

Frazod 02-05-2011 10:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Dunit35 (Post 7409494)
We all know the best burglars are the ones carrying welding masks. They've grown to adapt to people like yourself.
Bring 'em on. :bang:

Dunit35 02-05-2011 10:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Dunit35 (Post 7409494)
We all know the best burglars are the ones carrying welding masks. They've grown to adapt to people like yourself.
Just go in grab random shit and leave asap.

Kinda like woot.com mystery bags.

Kraus 02-05-2011 10:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Pants (Post 7409453)
If you order one from CDNN, you get a free Sig 522 with it. Would be perfect for your fiance. Just saying. :)
Are you still wanting to sell the 522?

Pants 02-05-2011 10:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Kraus (Post 7409503)
Are you still wanting to sell the 522?
For sure, man. Seth from CDNN said it was the black one, too. We'll talk, man. I wanna go to the range with you at some point in time anyway.

Kraus 02-05-2011 10:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Pants (Post 7409507)
For sure, man. Seth from CDNN said it was the black one, too. We'll talk, man. I wanna go to the range with you at some point in time anyway.
Sounds good. Just let me know a price. I've already got the money.

Dunit35 02-05-2011 10:51 PM
Are there any AR-15's for under a grand?

Pants 02-05-2011 10:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Kraus (Post 7409513)
Sounds good. Just let me know a price. I've already got the money.
I told you man, for you, I'll drop $100 off whatever the lowest price you find. Just let me know, I'm a trusting person.

Kraus 02-05-2011 10:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Dunit35 (Post 7409515)
Are there any AR-15's for under a grand?
Plenty.

Check out the link Pants posted above.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Pants (Post 7409518)
I told you man, for you, I'll drop $100 off whatever the lowest price you find. Just let me know, I'm a trusting person.
Lowest I've found a black on is $440, a green one was $375. Let me know which one you want to drop the $100 off of. ;)

Frazod 02-05-2011 11:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Dunit35 (Post 7409515)
Are there any AR-15's for under a grand?
Mine's an AR, paid $700 for it. It will be bare bones, but you can add accessories all day. Next thing I'll get is a replacement quad rail so I can start mounting new goodies on it.

Pants 02-05-2011 11:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Kraus (Post 7409529)
Plenty.

Check out the link Pants posted above.



Lowest I've found a black on is $440, a green one was $375. Let me know which one you want to drop the $100 off of. ;)
Sounds good.

P.S. One of the dudes at CDNN said they will no longer carry the CMMG one as CMMG went exclusive with RSR as their distributor. The other guy (when I called back) said he hasn't heard anything like that and thought they would have the CMMGs back in stock in 3 weeks or so. So you might want to look at that.

Frazod 02-05-2011 11:03 PM
BTW, this site has the best prices on AR accessories I've seen. Haven't ordered anything from them yet, but I certainly will soon. The deals on the rails blow away anything else I've seen.

http://tickbitesupply.com/index.html

TrebMaxx 02-05-2011 11:04 PM
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Originally Posted by frazod (Post 7409531)
Mine's an AR, paid $700 for it. It will be bare bones, but you can add accessories all day. Next thing I'll get is a replacement quad rail so I can start mounting new goodies on it.
Did you get a carbine? I have a Knight's Armament quad rail for a carbine if you are interested.

notorious 02-05-2011 11:05 PM
Daddy want:

http://www.sniperworld.com/DisplayPic.aspx?PIC=49204

http://www.sniperworld.com/item/6185.../Shotguns.aspx

Frazod 02-05-2011 11:09 PM
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Originally Posted by TrebMaxx (Post 7409536)
Did you get a carbine? I have a Knight's Armament quad rail for a carbine if you are interested.
Mine has a 16" barrel, so I think that would work. How much?

TrebMaxx 02-05-2011 11:17 PM
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Originally Posted by frazod (Post 7409547)
Mine has a 16" barrel, so I think that would work. How much?
Here is what it is like. http://www.knightarmco.com/shop/inde...products_id=32 I can take pictures of what I have. This rail is in pretty good shape even though it saw duty in Iraq. I would take $100 for it.

2112 02-05-2011 11:19 PM
H&K 45

http://www.hk-usa.com/-images/products/hk45/lg_hk45.jpg

Frazod 02-05-2011 11:22 PM
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Originally Posted by TrebMaxx (Post 7409560)
Here is what it is like. http://www.knightarmco.com/shop/inde...products_id=32 I can take pictures of what I have. This rail is in pretty good shape even though it saw duty in Iraq. I would take $100 for it.
Probably not interested, but thanks anyway. :thumb:

Pants 02-05-2011 11:29 PM
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Originally Posted by D2112 (Post 7409565)
Expensive as shit.

TrebMaxx 02-05-2011 11:30 PM
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Originally Posted by frazod (Post 7409576)
Probably not interested, but thanks anyway. :thumb:
No problem. Thought I would throw it out there. Thing won't fit on mine because I have the piston conversion kit on it but it is a real nice rail. I had to go with a free float system. I hate having it just setting up on my shelf. Maybe, if I can sweet talk the Mrs. to let me buy another AR I will be able to put it to use. :D

2112 02-05-2011 11:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Pants (Post 7409607)
Expensive as shit.
Yeah, it is. German engineering always is ;)

LiveSteam 02-06-2011 12:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Pants (Post 7409607)
Expensive as shit.
good look-en hand gun.

teedubya 02-06-2011 12:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Pants (Post 7409441)
Im gonna start being WAYYY nicer to you now.

BigRedChief 02-06-2011 12:25 AM
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Originally Posted by KC Fish (Post 7409316)
Personal defense has never been my reasoning for owning firearms. I just love to shoot. Whether it's hunting or just plinking at some tin cans. Started at the age of 6 with a trusty Daisy BB gun and about 3 square miles of Kansas wilderness. And I've just grown my collection since then. I can't say that any gun I've bought has been for the sole purpose of home defense. I've got several that would work well for it if need be, but they weren't bought for that reason.
Thats cool too. Whatever floats your boat. Your money and time.

BigRedChief 02-06-2011 12:35 AM
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Originally Posted by notorious (Post 7409163)
This.


And I'm sure you were taught the correct way to handle guns. People that didn't grow up with them can be dangerous as hell.
My new job qualifies me to carry a concealed weapon anywhere but on a plane. Even have an allowance for one. But, I've not fired a gun in 20 years. I'd probably shoot myself in the leg.

Kraus 02-06-2011 01:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Pants (Post 7409532)
Sounds good.

P.S. One of the dudes at CDNN said they will no longer carry the CMMG one as CMMG went exclusive with RSR as their distributor. The other guy (when I called back) said he hasn't heard anything like that and thought they would have the CMMGs back in stock in 3 weeks or so. So you might want to look at that.
So what's the price?

notorious 02-06-2011 02:19 PM
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Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 7409761)
My new job qualifies me to carry a concealed weapon anywhere but on a plane. Even have an allowance for one. But, I've not fired a gun in 20 years. I'd probably shoot myself in the leg.
:D

Just don't stash it in your sweatpants ala Plexico style.

Pants 02-06-2011 02:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Kraus (Post 7410620)
So what's the price?
$340 I guess, if it's black like the guy said.

TrebMaxx 02-06-2011 03:33 PM
If you are looking for a CMMG piece and can get to Columbia there is a place called Black Rifle that is a factory direct distributor. They don't have much of a website as far as looking at inventory but they usually have plenty of stock when I have gone there.

http://blackriflellc.com/

Kraus 02-06-2011 05:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Pants (Post 7410853)
$340 I guess, if it's black like the guy said.
Right on.

Frazod 02-08-2011 07:16 PM
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Any thoughts on this?

http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/p...ducts_id/53897

FN Herstal 45 acp, 14 round magazine. American made. Their website claims they provide 70% of the sidearms to the military. Looks pretty bad ass, and if I'm willing to drop $400, what's an extra $100?

Dunit35 02-08-2011 07:18 PM
I like the finish to it. Looks sweet.

Frazod 02-08-2011 07:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Dunit35 (Post 7417875)
I like the finish to it. Looks sweet.
I like a .45 with a 14 round magazine. Damn.

WV 02-08-2011 07:20 PM
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Originally Posted by frazod (Post 7417870)
Any thoughts on this?

http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/p...ducts_id/53897

FN Herstal 45 acp, 14 round magazine. American made. Their website claims they provide 70% of the sidearms to the military. Looks pretty bad ass, and if I'm willing to drop $400, what's an extra $100?
Hell they're made in Fredericksburg, VA, I can go pick it up for you and save you the trouble! It's about an hour away.

Frazod 02-08-2011 07:21 PM
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Originally Posted by WVChiefFan (Post 7417882)
Hell they're made in Fredericksburg, VA, I can go pick it up for you and save you the trouble! It's about an hour away.
So what's your take on it?

WV 02-08-2011 07:25 PM
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Originally Posted by frazod (Post 7417884)
So what's your take on it?
I'm more of a .40 guy, but I like the looks and the fact that it's american made. I dont' really know anything about the company, I just noticed in the picture that it was made close by. How's the warranty?

Stryker 02-08-2011 07:26 PM
Pistols this year for me. I want a 9mm Beretta like in "Lethal Weapon" and a Glock 40.

That is all.

Frazod 02-08-2011 07:30 PM
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Originally Posted by WVChiefFan (Post 7417893)
I'm more of a .40 guy, but I like the looks and the fact that it's american made. I dont' really know anything about the company, I just noticed in the picture that it was made close by. How's the warranty?
Haven't got that far yet. They've certainly got some interesting stuff on their website, though. Damn.

http://www.fnherstal.com/index.php?id=235

I should check with my friend in the Air Force (security forces major) and see what he knows about them.

Kraus 02-08-2011 07:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Pants (Post 7409441)
Get it yet?

WV 02-08-2011 07:42 PM
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Originally Posted by frazod (Post 7417899)
Haven't got that far yet. They've certainly got some interesting stuff on their website, though. Damn.

http://www.fnherstal.com/index.php?id=235

I should check with my friend in the Air Force (security forces major) and see what he knows about them.
I tried to check out their website, but it is blocked at work. :mad:

Frazod 02-09-2011 10:28 AM
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Originally Posted by frazod (Post 7417870)
Any thoughts on this?

http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/p...ducts_id/53897

FN Herstal 45 acp, 14 round magazine. American made. Their website claims they provide 70% of the sidearms to the military. Looks pretty bad ass, and if I'm willing to drop $400, what's an extra $100?
Bump. No luck with my Air Force buddy - his issued sidearm is a Beretta.

All the reviews I've found on this are very positive.

boogblaster 02-09-2011 10:48 AM
12 gauge pump .. All you need .......

Pants 02-09-2011 10:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Kraus (Post 7417903)
Get it yet?
LOL, no. I ordered it on Saturday. I'm sure it'll be a little while. How long does CDNN take to ship guns anyway?


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