Repost :D

I thought FNH was a Belgian company? Either way, they make quality shit seeing as they're responsible for the SCAR.

Yeah, doesn't look like I can go wrong with that one. I'm going to make some calls and see if anybody local carries it.

FN is top drawer stuff. Not sure about the 70% claim with the array of weapons the military uses.

Should be interesting to see who comes out on top of the competition to replace the M16. I bought some Smith and Wesson stock on a flyer just in case.

I'm pretty sure the rifles are already there. You got the Bushmaster's ACR and you got the FN SCAR, right? One or both of those are the future.

went to bass pro to get some ammo for the 12. Really ticked they didnt have a better selection. Seems these 'Home defense" rounds have taken over. Ive always shot winchester super x in #4 buck 3 in mag. ended up gettin single O.

Anyone have any hands on with the home defense stuff federal & winchesters puttin out? Thoughts?

My FFL had the gun I ordered within a day or two.

http://www.fnhusa.com/

Bushmaster rumored to be closing up, kicking the line to Remington (same ownership). Gonna be a ton of folks go after the next generation just like when they deep sixed the 1911 and moved to the Baretta.

Oh wow, OK. I'll call CDNN today and see what they say and then I'll call the FFL.

Anyone play around with Garands here?



I am looking to put a rail and possibly an Eotech sight on mine and I was just fishing for someone who might have direct experience.

Looking to do the same with my Saiga .308.


I have plenty of experience with the Eotech sights, which are awesome, but would something like this be a good alternative (since I don't want to spend $500 on each rifle):

http://www.amazon.com/Bushnell-Tacti...223624&sr=8-14

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/...500_AA300_.jpg

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http://site.cdnninvestments.com/CDNN2010-6/index.html

So from the guns on pages 6-7, which would you AR-philes choose? The Colt M4 comes with a free "quad rail". What is that?

The quad rail is the hand guard (over the barrel) that you can mount things on (like lasers, grips, flashlights, etc). That Colt has a regular hand guard, you can replace it with that quad rail you get for free.

Golfing with your AR....

http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/ARR225-7.html

Works on most AR-15, M4, and M16 rifles; replaces your muzzle brake or flash hider. Machined out of solid-stock steel, shoots golf balls over 250 yards using .223 BLANKS (BAM-006), do not use live rounds. No gunsmithing required. WARNING: All rules of firearm safety apply. Misuse of the golf ball launcher is potentially dangerous, and it is not a toy.

http://img197.imageshack.us/img197/6...2255256431.jpg

FORE!!!

I plan on buying the one on page 6 lower right corner sometime this spring or summer. I don't care much for the free stuff CDNN throws in, I plan on accessorizing it my way.

What made you decide on that one, if you don't mind me asking?

1. It is a company from Missouri (CMMG), and I like supporting local businesses.
2. They have a great reputation.
3. It is cheaper than a Colt.
4. It is piston-driven, which means it operates cleaner.

I'm no AR expert by any means, but these are good enough for me to decide who I want to buy from.

Fun from Doubletapper
 

I have one of those, you can add 5. Doesn't get as hot as a true gas operated M4.
One thing to note. If you want a quad rail you will have to get a free float system.

How hard is it to put a quad rail on an AR? The one I got is base and just has the standard, useless handguard.

Most of the quad rails out there are simple. You pull back on the slip ring, remove the hand guard and replace with your quad rail. If you get a free float system you have to remove your slip ring, barrel nut, flash hider, gas tube and the front sight. Thread the rail on the barrel nut supplied with the free float, you will not need your original barrel nut or slip ring anymore. Reinstall your gas tube, front site and flash hider.

Here you go frazod. http://www.wonderhowto.com/how-to-in...e-267096/view/

Thanks. :thumb:

Good fun read...

http://wintersoldier2008.typepad.com...receiver-.html

Found one. Give me some opinions.

http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/p...ducts_id=61658

stick with brass cased ammo & you shouldn't have any probs .
read http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=573804

This will be the newest addition to the arsenal - Heckler & Koch USP .40 caliber. Hopefully I'll have it in about a week. :thumb:

You're in the buying mood these days. Great choice. I'm still trying to talk my s.o into an AR. That and a .40 cal.

Pants got his rifle, and he is holding mine for me. I just need to make it up to KC when I get a chance to pick it up.

http://www.sigsauer.com/upFiles/cata...2LR-detail.jpg

More of an upgrade than anything else. I sold my Glock, and that's paying for most of it.

She's just laying there yearning for you, man. Also, what would you guys recommend as far as good .223 ammo and a decent place to get it from?

Here's what I bought for mine and while I haven't put a ton through my AR, what I have shot has been fine.

http://www.sportsmansguide.com/net/c....aspx?a=515028
500 rounds for $110

Fellas... I'm considering a .40SW handgun. I like the Ruger P94.

Never owned a .40SW. Thoughts?

I have a S&W Stainless 4006 and I love it. I've never been able to get over the looks of a Ruger....completely personal preference though. You should take a look at the S&W M&P and Springfield XD models too. Nice handguns.

I just got the 9mm Ruger (P95) and love it.

If you're looking for a .40, though, you might want to consider the one I just ordered - a used H&K USP from Summit Gun Broker for $495. The best price I found anywhere else for a used one was around $600, and a new one goes for around $900 to $1000.

I'd love the HK honestly. But I haven't seen one under $700 used...

I'm more interested in general thoughts about shooting a .40. Never owned this caliber. It would essentially be a fun gun, just for shooting the shit out of targets. And a backup home defense gun.

I'm still debating whether to go with .40 or 9mm for this purpose. It will get much more use as a target practice gun, which makes me think 9. But at the same time, I wouldn't mind trying a higher caliber. Not sure if the price difference would be worth getting the .40..?

http://www.summitgunbroker.com/USP_40_V1.html

I'll give you a full review in about a week.

Please do. I think it would be well worth it at that price.... that's a damn fine looking machine.

Yep. SOCOM uses them for a reason.

I decided that I would get a handgun this year for home defense. I've never owned a gun in my life so after some research I figured I'd start with just a 9mm and see where I go from there. So, I bought a Glock 19 tonight and I'll pick it up on Tuesday. I'll probably try to find some sort of handgun use and safety course sometime this summer so I'll know what I'm doing. Not sure if I'll get a CCW license or not.

My question: since I don't know a damned thing about guns (my family was never big on guns at all, I think my dad had a rifle that he got rid of when we were born) is there anything I should look for in ammo? Are they all basically the same? Use cheap ammo for practicing at a range and something else for home defense? I'm lost.

Also, I'd like any comments on whether the Glock 19 is a good choice for a first gun or if I'm wasting my money.

I'm sure the Glock is a fine choice for a first gun. A number of people love them. That said if your intent was home defense AND you've never had guns before I would have simply said buy a 12 gauge. Low over penetration risk and hard to miss with at close range.

If people who've never had guns before tell me they bought a handgun for self defense I simply say well ok...then at least the first year go target shooting monthly. You want to get intimately familiar with every aspect of your handgun and how it shoots so that when you need it, it will be muscle memory. Shoot as much as is practical. Most people tend to enjoy it so it's more an ammo cost issue.

Pistols can be fine for Home Defense but aren't ideal, if you intend to use it as one then you have to put more effort into accuracy and familiarization. Shotguns really tend to be an idiot gun at close range they are difficult to miss with and even if you do miss most bad guys are going to be thinking GTFO when faced with a shotgun.

Practice enough and you'll be fine, BUT you do need to practice and even when you are comfortable and accurate you still need to refresh your skills regularly.

I actually did consider buying a 12 gauge shotgun, but my budget only allowed for one or the other. I had planned to practice in a local indoor range, so I went with the handgun.

Incidentally, in case I decide to go back later for the shotgun, is there anything you should look for in a home defense shotgun, or are they all roughly the same?

For home defense rounds you might want to consider these:

http://www.shopcorbon.com/Glaser-Saf...g/500/500/dept

Specifically designed not to go through walls, yet they do tremendous tissue damage if they hit a person.

This and nice choice on the HK! Father-in-law is a huge fan of them and has the HK Mark23, and several versions of the P7. THAT MK23 is one big damn gun! Almost uncomfortable to shoot. I prefer his Wilson Combat 1911 much more though. :D

I am considering trading in my SIG P226 .40 cal for a HK 9mm USP compact for my conceal/carry. For some reason I am partial to the 9mm versus the .40. I always found the muzzle flash from the .40 to be distracting at the range. I'm not sure though as I like having a variety of calibers. Let us know what you think of the HK! Congrats!!!

Hopefully I'll have it by next weekend. Definitely looking forward to getting that bad boy to the range. :bang:

Part of buying guns depends upon if it's multi-use or not. If you want a gun for recreational target practice and home defense a pistol is fine. If you're looking at a shotgun part of the question to ask is, is it home defense only or do you think you might want to use it for hunting or skeet shooting later?

If you want to be flexible then you'd probably look to buy a more traditional shotgun. There are a number of possible options here, see what reviews are there and what values you have. If you're looking for a home defense only gun then you might look at a shorter more tactical shotgun but those tend to be fewer in options and more expensive but the shorter lengths make it more maneuverable.

The pistol can work fine but it just requires you practice quite a bit more. You want to get to the point where shooting and aiming is just natural so that when the extremely stressful HD situation happens you don't think, you body just reacts with muscle memory.

The reason that I tend to recommend a shotgun for novice shooters is that I know people who will say yes I'm going to shoot a lot but when they get a gun, life happens and it sits on the shelf. The statistics are real on this, a gun in a novice's hands can be more dangerous to them than no gun at all. I'm being a bit nanny here, but it's what was beat into me as a kid with gun safety and responsibility.

Sure would be nice to take my ruger and tactical shotty to the range. Wal mart (only place in town) has been out of ammo for the ruger for well over a week.

You can always order it on line. If Walmart is the only game in town, they probably jack up their prices. I know the one in my hometown does.

22.67 for a 100 pack w/o our 9.25 tax.

This is the site I get ammo for my AR from

http://www.aimsurplus.com/catalog.aspx?groupid=32

Thinking about this. Need to do more research.

http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/p...ducts_id=69657

Sounds like a great deal, especially with the scope.

I can't find reviews on it anywhere. Hopefully the AR experts chime in tomorrow. I'd love to get my fiancé one for her bday next month.

Type in the model number in google and see what you get. There seem to be youtube reviews about pretty much everything as well.

Also they can recommend which is better for bringing down large game, like Frigidare refrigerators. :p

So far I've found nothing. Buds is the cheapest for it though.

Anybody ever owned a doublestar AR?

Got my new H&K today. Will take it to the range tomorrow morning. :rockon:

Only annoying thing - apparently H&K doesn't work and play well with others when it comes to their mounting rails. I have to order a ****ing adapter to mount the Veridian laser/light that I got (the Ruger 9mm is fun, but obviously an H&K .40 will be the primary home defender). One site wanted $50 for it (bastards), but then I found one on ebay for $56 that had an adapter plus a red laser. So I guess I'll use the adapter to mount the Veridian and put the other one on the Ruger.

I think this will be end of the orgy of gun spending for a while - if I keep it up, the wife is liable to shoot me with one of them.

When I quit smoking, I designated my former cigarette money to buy fun items, a reward to keep me from falling off the wagon. It's worked for 10 years or so now. After filling the closet w/good wine and whiskey it was time to buy guns & knives. Every 3 or 4 months I can justify a new gun, or wait 6 months and buy 'nicer' guns. I probably need to thin the herd, but I have NEVER been happy that I sold a gun.

Partner, you are living the dream. I always enjoy your posts.

I've turned over three over the past couple of years and can't say I'll miss any of them. I had an old S&W single stack 9mm that I couldn't find extra mags for, a Glock 26 that I didn't enjoy shooting, and a Beretta compact .45 that I really didn't enjoy shooting. Now I've got the Ruger which is fun and accurate, an H&K, which is one of the top handguns made, and if the need ever arises, I still have my little fridge-killer .38 snub that I can stick in my pocket. Between those and the AR, I think I'll be okay. Shit, I only have two trigger fingers. :D

You know what? Anytime my fridge acts up, I just remind it that I know frazod the fridge killer. End of problem.

Yeah, there's nothing wrong with trading up. I may give some thought to that. I bought a lot of milsurp stuff while I lived in Texas in the 90s. I've made money on all of those. It's pretty seldom that I actually sell something while I have a profit...but it's a thought.

so i say we grab some these guns go in and make these dudes come to an agreement... im cool goin back as long as theres chiefs games...



no chiefs games=a big collection

I just won an auction on gunbroker.com for a IWI/Magnum Research Baby Eagle in .40 S&W (polymer frame).......I've been after one for a long time and they're hard to find, esp. at the price I'm gonna pay.

Just got back from the range - first time shooting the H&K.

Love the gun, just wish I had used it more effectively. While I had my share of bullseyes, I also had an annoying tendency to pull down and to the left, and when I tried to compensate for it things got ugly. Last group of 20 I had five bulls, two 9s, three 8s, six 7s, 2 6s and 2 misses. All but two would have been fatal, but still, I need more practice. When you're shooting an H&K, it's kind of hard to blame to gun.

And from the DUMBASS YOU SHOULD HAVE LOOKED AROUND BEFORE YOU BUY department, the gun store had that conversion rail for $20. I paid $60 for that and a laser I don't need last night.

DAMMIT CARL :cuss:

What distance?

10 yards.

What part of your finger is on the trigger? I had the same problem. I have a bud that use to be on the Air Force pistol team. We went to range to sling some lead one day and he noticed that I had my finger on the trigger at the first knuckle. He suggested that the proper form is to use just the tip of the finger to prevent pull. It was a great tip.

You know, somebody else mentioned that to me a couple of weeks ago and I completely forgot about it. :banghead:

Sounds like a good excuse to go back to the range.

Like I need one. But I hate the local range. $20 for the lane, and you have to buy their overpriced ammo. I don't go there often.

I'll be heading back to Missouri again once the weather improves and hit the outdoor range near Kirksville.

I recently got my first handgun and joined a range near me now it's only $9 per visit and I can use my own ammo

Yep, in the Basic Pistol Course through the NRA the "proper" way to pull the trigger is to use the pad of your index finger, not the first knuckle crease. When you use the crease of your knuckle you can actually curl the gun towards you because it's not a true straight back motion.

I cant wait to go try this.

Finally had a chance to use my first handgun at a local range. I wasn't too concerned with accuracy, though I don't think I did too bad, just wanted to get used to shooting and putting 100 rounds through the Glock 19. Just finished cleaning and oiling, I'll probably go back out there in a couple weeks with some small targets.

Why are these mosin-nagants so cheap? I see them for 100 bucks on buds. Every other WWII type weapon is expensive.

millions upon millions made world wide .
http://www.jgsales.com/index.php/rif.../cPath/209_261

So there is nothing cool about them?

Are they so cheap because so many of them were made?

These take 7.62 x 54r ammo? Can I get that at wal mart?

Did you decide on this? That looks like a deal I may be interested in.

For those of you on the market for an AR, consider this - the FFL guy I picked up my .40 from is an ex-cop and range master, and runs his own gun business out of his house. While we were chatting I mentioned that I had a DMPS Panther Oracle, and he told me that its a great gun, especially for the price, and he regularly sells them to cops. Made me feel pretty good about my choice. :thumb: