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KcMizzou 01-03-2013 09:32 PM

Hunt puts his stamp on Chiefs franchise with pursuit of Reid
 
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By SAM MELLINGER
The Kansas City Star

The short man with the stern look and pressed suits is not messing around. He will not waste time. Enough. No more clinging to the background or letting other people make the biggest decisions with his family’s Kansas City institution.

Clark Hunt has lived his entire 47 years in and around the Chiefs organization, and today he is in control of it like never before. His grasp is tighter than ever, his fingerprints in places he used to entrust to others. The worst Chiefs season in franchise is history is less than a week in the past, and Hunt appears to be giving his best effort to rebrand this thing back to respectability.

Absentee owner? Hunt’s got your absentee right here.

Hunt’s power grab means the Chiefs are a different franchise. The stark differences between him and his beloved father are coming into focus. Clark is quiet but ambitious. Respectful but ruthless. Flexible on details but intolerant of failure.

Lamar was a golf cart and a smile and enduring loyalty, known for driving himself around town and personally selling tickets. Clark is a black SUV and a direct question, a calculating man who in four years has pushed out his father’s co-pilot and neutered his own top football deputy.

Look, none of us know for certain whether Andy Reid will rise or sink if he’s the Chiefs’ new head coach. There are no guarantees in the NFL. Maybe you think Reid is a tired retread coach who could use a year off after being fired in Philadelphia. I happen to think he’s a proven coach and innovative offensive mind, a good fit for what the Chiefs need even as there are legitimate reasons to wonder whether he’s ready for another job so soon.

Maybe you wanted a push for Chip Kelly.

Maybe Mike McCoy intrigued me.

But whatever we think of Reid’s bona fides, we can all see what Hunt has done since Sunday’s appropriately limp, season-ending blowout loss at Denver: fired a failed coach, publicly emasculated a failed general manager, made clear a new power structure, identified the new coach he wanted, flew in for a meeting that effectively canceled other teams’ meetings and appeared on the verge of making the first hire of a seven-coach NFL offseason.

In Reid, he has settled upon a respected football mind, a classy man who quietly suffered awful personal tragedies and was put on public notice by his owner before last season but still wished the franchise well after being fired.

Reid had just three losing seasons in 14, and his teams ranked near the top in scoring offense and defense more often than not. He is a lover of both the screen pass and the long pass, a reputed hater of the running play who nonetheless gave his star back the ball more often than all but four other NFL rushers over the last two seasons.

Reid is also a proven evaluator of talent who made critical recent personnel mistakes that helped lead to his firing. The Eagles sent more players to the Pro Bowl than any other franchise during Reid’s time in Philadelphia, but his demise is directly traced by many to a free-agency binge that produced spicy headlines but just 12 wins the last two years.

Instant judgments of coaching hires are typically made with fewer facts than feel, initial speculation that turns into a lasting narrative of how a man is viewed. Along with the owner and quarterback, the head coach is one of the three most important positions in the Chiefs’ new power structure. But he is probably not as critical as it feels at the moment.

Reid could be the new face of the Chiefs, but no head coach goes it alone. Even if he has final say on staff and personnel, he’ll need help. Smart people willing to push back along the way. Obviously, he will need a better quarterback. Wide receivers, too. An upgraded offensive line. A better second cornerback opposite Brandon Flowers. You know the list.

But Reid would be the central beginning of a franchise reboot. He’d be here because the boss is fed up with losing. Starting now, Reid would be the Chiefs’ voice, the guy on the sidelines and in the news conferences. But his would-be boss is the muscle, shaping the Chiefs into something entirely new.

This is Hunt’s franchise, now more than ever before. He is remaking the Chiefs into something they’ve never been. That’s the change that makes this a historical week. Good or bad, we will soon see the results.

Bugeater 01-03-2013 09:36 PM

Obligatory WHY THE **** ISN'T PIOLI FIRED YET post.

stonedstooge 01-03-2013 09:38 PM

Jesus Mellinger settle down. Not going to build any statues of Chunt yet

Hammock Parties 01-03-2013 09:39 PM

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His grasp is tighter than ever, his fingerprints in places he used to entrust to others.
Clark's got a death grip on his weiner!

the Talking Can 01-03-2013 09:41 PM

i think he wrote that while clark had him grasped tightly at the waist...

Hammock Parties 01-03-2013 09:41 PM

Clark dropped ****ing napalm on Scott Pioli and the Arizona Cardinals....

Dayze 01-03-2013 09:41 PM

Clark is there with his wife

"Andy...I'd like to meet my wife. You think she's pretty?
"Yes, Yes I do"
(looks to wife; calmly says) "get over there and **** Andy"

Hammock Parties 01-03-2013 09:43 PM

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He is a lover of both the screen pass and the long pass
And the quadruple bypass...

http://www.intellectualpropertynews.com/cheesesteak.jpg

Hammock Parties 01-03-2013 09:44 PM

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The Eagles sent more players to the Pro Bowl than any other franchise during Reid’s time in Philadelphia
Holy ****ING shit.

We hit the motherlode.

Mr. Kotter 01-03-2013 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by GoWalrus (Post 9277207)

Hey, that's one helluva a choice....many Philly Cheesesteaks, or bypass??? 50/50 I'd say...heh.

wazu 01-03-2013 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Dayze (Post 9277204)
Clark is there with his wife

"Andy...I'd like to meet my wife. You think she's pretty?
"Yes, Yes I do"
(looks to wife; calmly says) "get over there and **** Andy"

LMAO

Dr. Johnny Fever 01-03-2013 10:01 PM

I've felt pretty meh about Reid the whole time. Another longest tenured coach who never won the big one... aka Marty. But that article explained a few things I wasn't aware of.

htismaqe 01-03-2013 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr. Johnny Fever (Post 9277357)
I've felt pretty meh about Reid the whole time. Another longest tenured coach who never won the big one... aka Marty. But that article explained a few things I wasn't aware of.

10 of the last 15 Super Bowls have been won by guys in their 2nd job. Reid is actually a pretty good choice.

milkman 01-03-2013 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by GoWalrus (Post 9277220)
Holy ****ING shit.

We hit the motherlode.

There are 5 Chiefs in the Pro Bowl this year.

All the proof you need to show that Pro Bowls mean jack.

mcaj22 01-03-2013 10:13 PM

those 5 Chiefs in the Pro Bowl was probably an attractive reason Reid wants to come here

he can build around said 5 and with those 5 (to 7) can become instantly competitive in year 1. That's all you can ask for. Those 5 are certainly better than Arizona's top 5 players. Though Arizona definitely has better depth roster wise, but worse FO structure (haha their owner sucks)

Dr. Johnny Fever 01-03-2013 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 9277377)
10 of the last 15 Super Bowls have been won by guys in their 2nd job. Reid is actually a pretty good choice.

Yeah I get that. I'm warming up to it. Once it's official I'll be all in and behind him. I admit I can't think of anyone better.

cosmo20002 01-03-2013 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by KcMizzou (Post 9277139)
Hunt puts his stamp on Chiefs franchise with pursuit of Reid

"Pursuit" of someone is putting a stamp on the franchise? Kind of a low bar to clear.

GloryDayz 01-03-2013 10:18 PM

"The worst Chiefs season in franchise is history is less than a week in the past, and Hunt appears to be giving his best effort to rebrand this thing back to respectability.

Absentee owner? Hunt’s got your absentee right here."

Yeah, not a week out and he still hasn't fired Pioli and supposedly still HAS him involved in scaring away talent by letting Pioli in meetings about the new people!

As for being an absentee owner, Sam, if you're going to drop the "less than a week" bullshit, then keep with it, one week of improved "team" focus doesn't make you a resident and passionate owner either. Especially when any number of other teams HAVE fired their under-performing GMs and Clark's still thinking...

htismaqe 01-03-2013 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by GloryDayz (Post 9277463)
"The worst Chiefs season in franchise is history is less than a week in the past, and Hunt appears to be giving his best effort to rebrand this thing back to respectability.

Absentee owner? Hunt’s got your absentee right here."

Yeah, not a week out and he still hasn't fired Pioli and supposedly still HAS him involved in scaring away talent by letting Pioli in meetings about the new people!

As for being an absentee owner, Sam, if you're going to drop the "less than a week" bullshit, then keep with it, one week of improved "team" focus doesn't make you a resident and passionate owner either. Especially when any number of other teams HAVE fired their under-performing GMs and Clark's still thinking...

:facepalm:

cosmo20002 01-03-2013 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 9277377)
10 of the last 15 Super Bowls have been won by guys in their 2nd job. Reid is actually a pretty good choice.

Dick Vermeil lost a Super Bowl with the Eagles. In his next job, he won a SB.
Andy Reid lost a Super Bowl with the Eagles. In his next job...:hmmm:

Also, no one named "Andy" has ever coached a Super Bowl winner, so an Andy is due.

This is a lock.

Pin Head 01-03-2013 10:25 PM

The Chiefs color scheme is all wrong for Andy it won't hide his largeness.

lewdog 01-03-2013 10:28 PM

Stop sucking Clark's dick. That will only happen once we win a playoff game. And how sad is it that Clark will be anointed savior if we win one ****ing playoff game!? A ****ing playoff game! Most teams in this league shoot for a Super Bowl....we shoot for one playoff win every 20 years.

Save it until this franchise actually proves it's worth.

htismaqe 01-03-2013 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Narrow Head (Post 9277505)
The Chiefs color scheme is all wrong for Andy it won't hide his largeness.

You don't like tomatoes?

SAUTO 01-03-2013 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by GloryDayz (Post 9277463)
"The worst Chiefs season in franchise is history is less than a week in the past, and Hunt appears to be giving his best effort to rebrand this thing back to respectability.

Absentee owner? Hunt’s got your absentee right here."

Yeah, not a week out and he still hasn't fired Pioli and supposedly still HAS him involved in scaring away talent by letting Pioli in meetings about the new people!

As for being an absentee owner, Sam, if you're going to drop the "less than a week" bullshit, then keep with it, one week of improved "team" focus doesn't make you a resident and passionate owner either. Especially when any number of other teams HAVE fired their under-performing GMs and Clark's still thinking...

you were doing so good...
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wazu 01-03-2013 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Narrow Head (Post 9277505)
The Chiefs color scheme is all wrong for Andy it won't hide his largeness.

He'll just wear black like Romeo.

TEX 01-03-2013 10:50 PM

Needing a better 2nd CB opposite Flowers still pisses me off to no end...:#

Sorter 01-04-2013 03:27 AM

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Originally Posted by TEX (Post 9277676)
Needing a better 2nd CB opposite Flowers still pisses me off to no end...:#

While it seems hopeful, there is a chance that D-Cromartie ends up as our #2 if the Eagles decide he isn't worth his salary (I don't think he's a URFA, can't recall).

-King- 01-04-2013 07:13 AM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 9277563)
you were doing so good...
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LMAO
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BlackHelicopters 01-04-2013 07:14 AM

Already have a statue of ChUNT in my front yard. What is the big deal?

Marcellus 01-04-2013 07:18 AM

Mellinger is a bigger flip flopper than half this board. His first story after the press conference was all whiney bitchy basically trying to say why would change work if the last 4 haven't, that is GREAT logic. Dude is a shitty journalist. Funny to see him hanging from Clark's balls now.

http://www.kansascity.com/2012/12/31...s-changes.html

Rugby Thompson 01-04-2013 07:29 AM

why do people keep mentioning cromartie, he's a bust.

chiefzilla1501 01-04-2013 07:33 AM

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Originally Posted by GloryDayz (Post 9277463)
"The worst Chiefs season in franchise is history is less than a week in the past, and Hunt appears to be giving his best effort to rebrand this thing back to respectability.

Absentee owner? Hunt’s got your absentee right here."

Yeah, not a week out and he still hasn't fired Pioli and supposedly still HAS him involved in scaring away talent by letting Pioli in meetings about the new people!

As for being an absentee owner, Sam, if you're going to drop the "less than a week" bullshit, then keep with it, one week of improved "team" focus doesn't make you a resident and passionate owner either. Especially when any number of other teams HAVE fired their under-performing GMs and Clark's still thinking...

If Andy Reid is hired, who cares about Pioli? We know he's way down the chain of command. He can't hurt us anymore.

As for Chunt.... To say this is one week and that he's done nothing is just plain wrong. In one week, he took everything away from Pioli, and said he's going to do it better. And of any team, our owner is pretty much putting clown shoes on other teams' owners and GMs. So I'd say he's done quite a bit.

Now... lovefest aside, what remains to be seen is Clark is committed to winning Super Bowls, or if his goal is to start getting butts in the seat again. I don't know the answer to that. If Reid gets this team to the playoffs every year, restores the roar at Arrowhead, but never wins a Super Bowl or comes close... I still think he'll be here 10 years.

Rasputin 01-04-2013 08:15 AM

Clark Hunt is in it to WIN it
http://i558.photobucket.com/albums/s...ation/12-2.gif

htismaqe 01-04-2013 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 9278449)
Mellinger is a bigger flip flopper than half this board. His first story after the press conference was all whiney bitchy basically trying to say why would change work if the last 4 haven't, that is GREAT logic. Dude is a shitty journalist. Funny to see him hanging from Clark's balls now.

http://www.kansascity.com/2012/12/31...s-changes.html

Flip flopper?

Much like many of us, he's been saying he'd like to see certain types of change.

Clark went out and MADE CHANGES.

That's not flip flopping, it's called being partially satisfied.

KcMizzou 01-04-2013 08:33 PM

Has Clark earned any respect yet?

You can't question the dude's effort. He clearly does want to win.

ChiefsCountry 01-04-2013 08:36 PM

They are also trying to sell one of their soccer teams which will put them down to one MLS team.

Marcellus 01-04-2013 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 9278568)
Flip flopper?

Much like many of us, he's been saying he'd like to see certain types of change.

Clark went out and MADE CHANGES.

That's not flip flopping, it's called being partially satisfied.

Wrong. I have stated all along Clark wasn't the issue from day 1. He hired the best GM available and paid him well. He was trying to win and to do the right thing and it backfired.

He came out end of season and fired RAC and neutered Pioli and said he was taking charge. People bitched. I didn't. I backed the guy and preached patience.

It has worked out. I am proud to have backed Clark, he hasn't done a thing wrong since taking over except hiring a guy most thought was the right guy. When it was wrong he did what Pioli wouldn't do, he corrected the mistake.

Sorry not everyone has flip flopped on Clark. I am a Clark OG and I am proud. You wanna be OG's can just deal with it.


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