People spewing the "bible study" charge need to back it up with evidence, or admit they're full of shit.


That exact line was used against DM for years. Then he won the WS. And suddenly it disappeared.

You know a ton of people still think Moore is a dipshit for some of his views right, like the porn thing is ****ing stupid.

But hey Moore and Matheny are probably 2 peas in a pod on a personal level, Jesus Freaks unite.

How bout dem other charges?

It's pretty obvious Matheny is a terrible manager.

Oh. My. God. There may be someone out there worst than Ned Yost. Yost sucks as a tactician, but at least Ned is good at team building.

Are you tryin' ta say that Jesus Christ can't hit a curveball?

I don't know a thing about Matheny so I'll stipulate everything you and Duncan said.


But not the "bible study" thing. Not without evidence.

Jobu definitely can!

Totally fair. To my knowledge the Cardinals posters were on a consensus about that so I believed them - maybe one of them (DJ?) can comment more.

What evidence do you want? It’s a rumor I’ve heard a few different places on the internet.

Do you want a Cardinals beat writer expounding on it? That doesn’t exist. No reporter is going to write about it.

It’s pretty clear he played favorites for veteran players, continuing to run them out through extreme struggles at the expense of PT for bright young talent (see Oscar Taveras and Allen Craig for one example). Wong and Grichuk also have lost PT to uninspiring veterans and were given little rope.

I didn’t connect that to his bible study group until reading rumors about that on forums I visit. Don’t remember if DJ and this crew have talked about it, but I’ve seen it in other places. Maybe he just likes shitty veterans... but its awfully convenient that guys known to attend his study group get huge amounts of leeway from him on performance.

It’s a rumor and I’ll fully admit that.

Whatever the reason, his track record with veterans and young players is atrocious and not the type of leadership KC will need moving forward.

Then it's settled. It's an unsubstantiated, and almost assuredly false, innuendo.


It's pretty un-American to go after a man's character. I'm guessing his job tactics have a lot of room to criticize, but there isn't one among us who'd like our character being attacked. Esp without proof.

I agree. The next time Matheny signs onto Chiefs Planet and sees these attacks against him, he's going to be pretty pissed!

Good comeback. Except I'm not talking to Matheny. I'm talking to Duncan and Pants. Now scram.

It's presidential these days.

It’s not attacking his character to point out fact A:

Matheny hosted a bible study group with his players

Fact b:
Matheny was overly loyal to many of his veterans, playing them despite horrible performance levels, usually at the expense of talented young players

Fact c:
Those vets were know to be members of the Bible study group.

Now, maybe it’s just a coincidence. Draw what conclusions you want from that cluster.