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ThaVirus 11-23-2022 12:18 PM

How do you define a sports dynasty and what does this current Chiefs team need to do
 
Been considering this a bit lately. Generally speaking I’d have considered any sports team that wins three championships in a five-ish year period a true dynasty.

The Patriots have two, obviously, early 2000s and then the mid 2010s. Early 90s Cowboys. 49ers in the 80s and Steelers in the 70s, IIRC.

Then I was considering things and wondering what we’d need to accomplish in order to be labeled a dynasty. We’ve currently got the one Super Bowl win from the 2019 season. It’s now the 2022 season.

We’ve hosted four straight AFCCGs in that timespan as well. Does that factor in at all or is it solely based on Super Bowl wins?

I think it does a bit. For example, if we’re able to win the Super Bowl this year, I think I would consider us a dynasty.

But I don’t consider the 90s Bills a dynasty so clearly at least one or two actual Super Bowl wins is a requirement.

What are your thoughts?

tredadda 11-23-2022 12:21 PM

I think a couple more rings with Reid/Mahomes in the next 5-6 years will do it for me. What the Patriots did is so unusual that they can’t be looked at as a standard for what a dynasty is.

scho63 11-23-2022 12:22 PM

Patriots, Chicago Bulls, Pittsburgh Penguins, Edmonton Oilers, NY Yankees are the ones who come to mind of true dynasties.

tredadda 11-23-2022 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by scho63 (Post 16623142)
Patriots, Chicago Bulls, Pittsburgh Penguins, Edmonton Oilers, NY Yankees are the ones who come to mind of true dynasties.

No Golden State Warriors?

scho63 11-23-2022 12:23 PM

We need 3 or 4 more Super Bowl victories under Mahomes for that to be bestowed upon us.

scho63 11-23-2022 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by tredadda (Post 16623146)
No Golden State Warriors?

Yeah, them as well.

scho63 11-23-2022 12:25 PM

San Antonio Spurs too

Megatron96 11-23-2022 12:26 PM

According to most of the pundits, 3 Rings in 10 years is the standard for a team to be called a dynasty. I guess I agree with that.

scho63 11-23-2022 12:26 PM

Montreal Canadians and Boston Celtics

tredadda 11-23-2022 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by scho63 (Post 16623147)
We need 3 or 4 more Super Bowl victories under Mahomes for that to be bestowed upon us.

3-4 might be pushing it though. The Patriots are the only salary cap era team to win 4-5 championships. What they did is just not realistic.

ThaVirus 11-23-2022 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by scho63 (Post 16623147)
We need 3 or 4 more Super Bowl victories under Mahomes for that to be bestowed upon us.


Oof, those are some steep requirements.

Hypothetical: what if we win a Super Bowl this year and next, but no more. So Super Bowl wins from the 2019, 2022 and 2023 seasons.

Would we be considered a dynasty in your book?

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Originally Posted by tredadda (Post 16623140)
I think a couple more rings with Reid/Mahomes in the next 5-6 years will do it for me. What the Patriots did is so unusual that they can’t be looked at as a standard for what a dynasty is.


Hypothetical: what if the couple more rings come at the end of that 5-6 years you’ve laid out? So we’ve got Super Bowl wins from the 2019, 2027 and 2028 seasons?

Would we still be considered a dynasty in your eyes?

tredadda 11-23-2022 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Megatron96 (Post 16623161)
According to most of the pundits, 3 Rings in 10 years is the standard for a team to be called a dynasty. I guess I agree with that.

Yup, especially in a salary cap driven league.

tredadda 11-23-2022 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 16623164)
Oof, those are some steep requirements.

Hypothetical: what if we win a Super Bowl this year and next, but no more. So Super Bowl wins from the 2019, 2022 and 2023 seasons.

Would we be considered a dynasty in your book?




Hypothetical: what if the couple more rings come at the end of that 5-6 years you’ve laid out? So we’ve got Super Bowl wins from the 2019, 2027 and 2028 seasons?

Would we still be considered a dynasty in your eyes?

Yes I would. Winning a SB is tough. Now to win multiple is even harder. The Patriots were considered a dynasty in spite of the huge gap between their first two and the others.

htismaqe 11-23-2022 12:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 16623164)
Oof, those are some steep requirements.

Hypothetical: what if we win a Super Bowl this year and next, but no more. So Super Bowl wins from the 2019, 2022 and 2023 seasons.

Would we be considered a dynasty in your book?

Absolutely.

4 Super Bowl appearances, 3 wins, and most likely 6 straight AFCCG's at Arrowhead.

That is the definition of dynasty.

ThaVirus 11-23-2022 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Megatron96 (Post 16623161)
According to most of the pundits, 3 Rings in 10 years is the standard for a team to be called a dynasty. I guess I agree with that.


Hmm. 3 championships in 10 years is news to me. I usually hear 3 in 5 and I think I prefer that because I think I’d need the core of the team to be largely the same in order to consider it a dynasty.

For example, what if the Packers had been able to win a Super Bowl with Favre and whoever their coach was in 2002 then they won the Super Bowl again in 2010 and 2011 with Aaron Rodgers and Mike McCarthy? Would that really be considered a dynasty? I don’t think I like that.


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