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Chiefs Pantalones 04-30-2021 09:13 PM

We drafted a two down LB in the second round. Awful

comochiefsfan 04-30-2021 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefs Pantalones (Post 15655799)
We drafted a two down LB in the second round. Awful

Absolutely not true. He's solid in coverage.

BryanBusby 04-30-2021 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefs Pantalones (Post 15655799)
We drafted a two down LB in the second round. Awful

Some of these takes are just ****ing stupid.

oldman 04-30-2021 09:20 PM

As a former MLB, my thought is always more LBs, more better. But this told me all I need to know--Meets runners with violent collisions in the hole. Strikes like he's trying to send a message. Oldman approves this pick.

Chris Meck 04-30-2021 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefs Pantalones (Post 15655799)
We drafted a two down LB in the second round. Awful

Thanks for weighing in! :thumb:

Chiefs Pantalones 04-30-2021 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 15655825)
Thanks for weighing in! :thumb:

I love you

kepp 04-30-2021 09:23 PM

I know some of the measureables aren't what people are hoping for, but if you've watched any amount of Mizzou football over the last couple years, you'd know this guy is everywhere on the field. I love the pick.

-King- 04-30-2021 09:24 PM

When did we get to a point where 4.6 is considered "slow" for a LB? Especially one that can hit? Wtf?

Coach 04-30-2021 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefs Pantalones (Post 15655799)
We drafted a two down LB in the second round. Awful

Apparently you didn't read the OP quoted part.

Here, let me give you a cliff note.

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Great awareness and ballhawking as spot dropper.
Has enough man-cover talent to play on all three downs.
That blows your argument of "We drafted a two down LB" comment apart.

ChiefsFanatic 04-30-2021 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 15655528)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">you say &quot;holy shit&quot; a lot watching nick bolton <a href="https://t.co/jDDgeF4Myr">pic.twitter.com/jDDgeF4Myr</a></p>ó Austin Gayle (@PFF_AustinGayle) <a href="https://twitter.com/PFF_AustinGayle/status/1348665255157788674?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 11, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

So, I haven't seen him play, but watching his highlights, I got this weird image in my head of the old Saints linebacker Sam Mills. Mills was maybe a little shorter, and not quite the hitter Bolton appears to be, but it's Bolton's anticipation and first step in the right direction that looks like Mills to me.

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Chiefspants 04-30-2021 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 15655629)
This dude is going to take all of Niemannís coverage snaps? Doubt it.

Well, why not? What can Niemann do in coverage that Ramsay Bolton canít?

Chiefs Pantalones 04-30-2021 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by kepp (Post 15655836)
I know some of the measureables aren't what people are hoping for, but if you've watched any amount of Mizzou football over the last couple years, you'd know this guy is everywhere on the field. I love the pick.

I wouldíve rather had Werner. Heís better than Bolton

Woogieman 04-30-2021 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare (Post 15655205)
Like haven't done my research, the dude is drag down tackler and is an average athlete.

:facepalm:

Lol!

MAHOMO 4 LIFE! 04-30-2021 09:39 PM

Does Matt house still use a flip phone??

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">.<a href="https://twitter.com/_nickbolton2?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@_nickbolton2</a> gets the call from One Arrowhead Drive �� <a href="https://t.co/1XgaCeBy8R">pic.twitter.com/1XgaCeBy8R</a></p>&mdash; Kansas City Chiefs (@Chiefs) <a href="https://twitter.com/Chiefs/status/1388333801126998016?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 1, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Cheater5 04-30-2021 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefspants (Post 15655871)
Well, why not? What can Niemann do in coverage that Ramsay Bolton canít?


What, if anything, does Niemann do well? Oh, I forgot-- he had that big hit on Garapalo 16 months ago.

Mecca 04-30-2021 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefs Pantalones (Post 15655902)
I wouldíve rather had Werner. Heís better than Bolton

Is that you Matt Lane?

MAHOMO 4 LIFE! 04-30-2021 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Cheater5 (Post 15655926)
What, if anything, does Niemann do well? Oh, I forgot-- he had that big hit on Garapalo 16 months ago.

He has a better PFF grade than Devin White

comochiefsfan 04-30-2021 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE! (Post 15655930)
He has a better PFF grade than Devin White

And what does that tell you about PFF then?

BigChiefFan 04-30-2021 09:42 PM

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/2...und-selection/

Chiefs Pantalones 04-30-2021 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 15655929)
Is that you Matt Lane?

Not sure who that is but I bet heís taller and can cover better than Bolton

Chris Meck 04-30-2021 09:43 PM

all reports on the guy are that he's really, really smart, and really instinctive.

He's going to take Wilsons' snaps and a lot of Niemann's snaps, and probably is Hitchens eventual replacement.

Flying High D 04-30-2021 09:44 PM

Wonder if he can sing anything like his dad Michael?

Fish 04-30-2021 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 15655781)
I ****ing hate this pick now.

https://i.redd.it/7256sn6dsew61.png

Have we cut this piece of shit yet?

SuperBowl4 04-30-2021 09:49 PM

:thumb:PBJ:thumb:PBJ:thumb:PBJ:thumb:PBJ:thumb:PBJ:thumb::rockon:

The Franchise 04-30-2021 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Fish (Post 15655962)
Have we cut this piece of shit yet?

I knew I hated the guy.

In58men 04-30-2021 09:49 PM

https://twitter.com/pff_college/stat...780642306?s=21

Chiefs Pantalones 04-30-2021 09:52 PM

Love and miss you guys, just not a fan of the pick.

I love the Humphrey pick though. Gonna be our OC for the next 10 years.

Hope you guys have lots of sex tonight xoxo

MAHOMO 4 LIFE! 04-30-2021 10:05 PM

Remember when everyone shitted on the Sneed and Danna picks last year. Look how those turned out

Kiimo 04-30-2021 10:17 PM

I don't pretend to know who will work out. I didn't shit on Sneed and Danna but I did shit on Rashad Fenton and he turned out okay.


I hope this guy proves me wrong but he seems slow, small and a concussion waiting to happen and also I don't know how long it's going to take to get him playing.

I guess I just thought we had more pressing needs but Veach knows better than I do

Flying High D 04-30-2021 10:17 PM

CAmp fodder

Mizzou_8541 04-30-2021 10:21 PM

LOL at “drag down tackler.”

Chris Meck 04-30-2021 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE! (Post 15656028)
Remember when everyone shitted on the Sneed and Danna picks last year. Look how those turned out

shat upon.

:thumb:

Chris Meck 04-30-2021 10:24 PM

He's small, and slow, and an arm tackler, and bad in coverage, but most scouts and mocks had him going late in the first round.

Got it.

staylor26 04-30-2021 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 15656060)
He's small, and slow, and an arm tackler, and bad in coverage, but most scouts and mocks had him going late in the first round.

Got it.

“He was my 30th player. The Chiefs didn’t have a 1st round pick, but they still got what should’ve been a 1st round player”- Daniel Jeremiah.

I don’t think Bolton was too 30 personally, but he was definitely top 50.

Chris Meck 04-30-2021 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 15656062)
ďHe was my 30th player. The Chiefs didnít have a 1st round pick, but they still got what shouldíve been a 1st round playerĒ- Daniel Jeremiah.

I donít think Bolton was too 30 personally, but he was definitely top 50.

yeah, man, I mean I saw him late first in most of the mocks all offseason long.

I wouldn't have been a fan at #31, because I felt we had bigger fish to fry.

But you just really can't argue with getting a consensus late first/early second player at a position of need at #58.

I mean that's real good value. And I think he's probably Hitchens' replacement in 2022 as well.

He's just rill good at football.

The Franchise 04-30-2021 10:32 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a> GM Brett Veach says that Nick Bolton and Willie Gay Jr. are buddies. Would explain the predictive tweets from No. 50.</p>&mdash; Charles Goldman (@goldmctNFL) <a href="https://twitter.com/goldmctNFL/status/1388347450965086208?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 1, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

staylor26 04-30-2021 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 15656067)
yeah, man, I mean I saw him late first in most of the mocks all offseason long.

I wouldn't have been a fan at #31, because I felt we had bigger fish to fry.

But you just really can't argue with getting a consensus late first/early second player at a position of need at #58.

I mean that's real good value. And I think he's probably Hitchens' replacement in 2022 as well.

He's just rill good at football.

BuT PoSiTiOnAl VaLuE

staylor26 04-30-2021 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 15656068)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a> GM Brett Veach says that Nick Bolton and Willie Gay Jr. are buddies. Would explain the predictive tweets from No. 50.</p>&mdash; Charles Goldman (@goldmctNFL) <a href="https://twitter.com/goldmctNFL/status/1388347450965086208?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 1, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Orlando Brown and Creed Humphrey too.

Weíre bringing friends together here!

Chris Meck 04-30-2021 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 15656086)
Orlando Brown and Creed Humphrey too.

Weíre bringing friends together here!

It does really help.

I mean, might seem silly, but it does.

staylor26 04-30-2021 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 15656100)
It does really help.

I mean, might seem silly, but it does.

Oh for sure. Absolutely.

The Franchise 04-30-2021 10:53 PM

I wonder if Veach can get anything for Allegretti and Wylie? I mean he did turn Parker Ehinger into Ward.

staylor26 04-30-2021 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 15656113)
I wonder if Veach can get anything for Allegretti and Wylie? I mean he did turn Parker Ehinger into Ward.

You’d think Allegretti will have some value as cheap depth with C/G versatility and starting experience. Maybe a 6th?

htismaqe 04-30-2021 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 15655480)
Hopefully this means Hitchens is gone after this year.

It has to be. They can save a ton of cap room by going with Bolton.

Quite frankly, if that's the plan, it's a very good one.

Everybody knows I'm not high on drafting LB's high but it's still all about value. We got a guy that had value in the 30-35th pick range at 58. That's a tremendous get, regardless of position.

And no I don't think Bolton is a jump-off-the-page athlete. But the simple fact is that the kid is a very good all-around LB. He doesn't have a ton of weakness, he's not one-dimensional.

Freakish athleticism is all well and good on the outside but in many ways, you want your MLB to quick, smart, and fearless. I think that's what Bolton brings.

htismaqe 04-30-2021 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 15656083)
BuT PoSiTiOnAl VaLuE

That's just the thing. Positional value doesn't just flat out trump player value.

We got a guy at 58 that probably should have gone about 25 picks higher. That's a tremendous amount of value, much more than you gave up taking a LB over say, a DE.

In the end, Bolton was a high value pick and he'll be even more so once Hitchens and his salary are gone.

Chris Meck 04-30-2021 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 15656120)
That's just the thing. Positional value doesn't just flat out trump player value.

We got a guy at 58 that probably should have gone about 25 picks higher. That's a tremendous amount of value, much more than you gave up taking a LB over say, a DE.

In the end, Bolton was a high value pick and he'll be even more so once Hitchens and his salary are gone.

AND he's a high floor player, in my opinion.

He's not going to Dorian O'Daniel on you.

He's smart, and instinctive. He's not going to suck.

MAHOMO 4 LIFE! 04-30-2021 11:07 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Nick Bolton: 91.2 PFF Grade since 2019<br><br>Highest of any LB in college football<br><br>LIVE REACTION: <a href="https://t.co/QM5eR2N6TV">https://t.co/QM5eR2N6TV</a> <a href="https://t.co/bZRUKFT71D">pic.twitter.com/bZRUKFT71D</a></p>&mdash; PFF (@PFF) <a href="https://twitter.com/PFF/status/1388299724076339206?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 1, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

ROYC75 04-30-2021 11:11 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 15656117)
It has to be. They can save a ton of cap room by going with Bolton.

Quite frankly, if that's the plan, it's a very good one.

Everybody knows I'm not high on drafting LB's high but it's still all about value. We got a guy that had value in the 30-35th pick range at 58. That's a tremendous get, regardless of position.

And no I don't think Bolton is a jump-off-the-page athlete. But the simple fact is that the kid is a very good all-around LB. He doesn't have a ton of weakness, he's not one-dimensional.

Freakish athleticism is all well and good on the outside but in many ways, you want your MLB to quick, smart, and fearless. I think that's what Bolton brings.

I agree with this, he is a MLB! His lack of overall speed is offset by his ability to read the play quickly. Allowing a quicker first jump to the play( hole ) and meanness to hit the ball carrier.

If he brings that to the pro level, it will serve him well as a run stopper, as well as sweeps, screens and quick slants.

Halfcan 04-30-2021 11:17 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 15656117)
It has to be. They can save a ton of cap room by going with Bolton.

Quite frankly, if that's the plan, it's a very good one.

Everybody knows I'm not high on drafting LB's high but it's still all about value. We got a guy that had value in the 30-35th pick range at 58. That's a tremendous get, regardless of position.

And no I don't think Bolton is a jump-off-the-page athlete. But the simple fact is that the kid is a very good all-around LB. He doesn't have a ton of weakness, he's not one-dimensional.

Freakish athleticism is all well and good on the outside but in many ways, you want your MLB to quick, smart, and fearless. I think that's what Bolton brings.

If Bolton turns out to be our next great LB- it might be fate that the pick was #58. That is a good number in Chiefs history.

TribalElder 04-30-2021 11:19 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">.<a href="https://twitter.com/_nickbolton2?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@_nickbolton2</a> gets the call from One Arrowhead Drive �� <a href="https://t.co/1XgaCeBy8R">pic.twitter.com/1XgaCeBy8R</a></p>&mdash; Kansas City Chiefs (@Chiefs) <a href="https://twitter.com/Chiefs/status/1388333801126998016?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 1, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Chris Meck 04-30-2021 11:22 PM

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Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE! (Post 15656134)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Nick Bolton: 91.2 PFF Grade since 2019<br><br>Highest of any LB in college football<br><br>LIVE REACTION: <a href="https://t.co/QM5eR2N6TV">https://t.co/QM5eR2N6TV</a> <a href="https://t.co/bZRUKFT71D">pic.twitter.com/bZRUKFT71D</a></p>&mdash; PFF (@PFF) <a href="https://twitter.com/PFF/status/1388299724076339206?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 1, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

YAY PFF is AWESOME!

Just kidding. They're shitty.

But they like our guy this time, so YAY!

:thumb:

Halfcan 04-30-2021 11:27 PM

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Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE! (Post 15656134)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Nick Bolton: 91.2 PFF Grade since 2019<br><br>Highest of any LB in college football<br><br>LIVE REACTION: <a href="https://t.co/QM5eR2N6TV">https://t.co/QM5eR2N6TV</a> <a href="https://t.co/bZRUKFT71D">pic.twitter.com/bZRUKFT71D</a></p>&mdash; PFF (@PFF) <a href="https://twitter.com/PFF/status/1388299724076339206?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 1, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

I can't believe we got him. He is going to add such a fierce energy to our defense.

Hoover 04-30-2021 11:41 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 15656114)
Youíd think Allegretti will have some value as cheap depth with C/G versatility and starting experience. Maybe a 6th?

Not interested in a draft pick, I'd rather get a player

htismaqe 05-01-2021 12:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 15656132)
AND he's a high floor player, in my opinion.

He's not going to Dorian O'Daniel on you.

He's smart, and instinctive. He's not going to suck.

Right.

The kid just really doesn't have any serious flaws.

comochiefsfan 05-01-2021 12:42 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 15656287)
Right.

The kid just really doesn't have any serious flaws.

Exactly.

This kid has an incredibly high football IQ and a nose for the ball. He's not some dumbass who makes the roster by just happening to be a high level athlete.

He's the exact kind of linebacker you want to be your QB of the defense. Smart, Physical and Tough. It's a bit of an old school pick but quite frankly our defense could use some old school toughness.

MAHOMO 4 LIFE! 05-01-2021 12:45 AM

After reading up on him how did he last till 58? He seems like an awesome player and someone who can play all 3 downs

comochiefsfan 05-01-2021 12:51 AM

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Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE! (Post 15656318)
After reading up on him how did he last till 58? He seems like an awesome player and someone who can play all 3 downs

He was the BPA on multiple outlets when we picked him and was considered a potential late first by a few. And he was at a position of severe need.

As far as value goes, we really could not have done any better.

Chiefs=Champions 05-01-2021 04:15 AM

Bolton reminds me of Demario Davis. That's a good thing.

dlphg9 05-01-2021 04:30 AM

People get too caught up on combine numbers. The combine for the most part doesn't matter. He's going to bring more nastiness to the D and I love it. Can't wait to see him crush a few RBs.

Urc Burry 05-01-2021 05:25 AM

Yeah the athleticism is definitely over blown. He has better measurable than Lavonte David who is still kicking ass at 31. The Willie Gayís of the world are so rare. And those that have Gayís athleticism with more and better film just arenít going to make it to where we pick. See Jamin Davis

pugsnotdrugs19 05-01-2021 05:35 AM

anyone think Bolton could simply take Niemann’s role this year?

He’s clearly really smart and more athletic, physical than Niemann. Why not? I think that’d be a great role for his rookie year if they don’t trust Gay to call the defense out of the dime.

pugsnotdrugs19 05-01-2021 05:37 AM

I’ll tell ya, I’m REALLY tired of the analytics horseshit regarding the LB position being devalued..

Easiest way to make it clear you don’t understand football. Linebackers have to play both run and pass unlike any other player out there on defense. Just think of the great defenses of the past 15-20 years and how many of them included incredible linebackers.

Just something that grinds my gears from some Chiefs analysts.

Willie Lanier 05-01-2021 06:09 AM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 15656413)
Iíll tell ya, Iím REALLY tired of the analytics horseshit regarding the LB position being invaluable.

Easiest way to make it clear you donít understand football. Linebackers have to play both run and pass unlike any other player out there on defense. Just think of the great defenses of the past 15-20 years and how many of them included incredible linebackers.

Just something that grinds my gears from some Chiefs analysts.

I think you mean "devalued"

But yes I completely agree with you

Willie Lanier 05-01-2021 06:11 AM

And I'm really high on this kid

smithandrew051 05-01-2021 06:14 AM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 15656409)
anyone think Bolton could simply take Niemannís role this year?

Heís clearly really smart and more athletic, physical than Niemann. Why not? I think thatíd be a great role for his rookie year if they donít trust Gay to call the defense out of the dime.

I donít see why not. Niemann knows the scheme in and out Iím sure, but thatís about the only advantage he has.

Itís not like Niemann really does anything all that well. Heís bad at just about everything. Even if Bolton struggles a bit at first, is that any worse than Niemann?

pugsnotdrugs19 05-01-2021 06:19 AM

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Originally Posted by smithandrew051 (Post 15656433)
I donít see why not. Niemann knows the scheme in and out Iím sure, but thatís about the only advantage he has.

Itís not like Niemann really does anything all that well. Heís bad at just about everything. Even if Bolton struggles a bit at first, is that any worse than Niemann?

Thatís my POV.

Even if Bolton or Gay have their own flaws, donít they have to be better than Niemann at this point for the dime? Gay should know the defense better and Bolton will catch on quick.

Dante84 05-01-2021 07:14 AM

Well, I do love the attitude and I’ve always enjoyed hard hits. I hope when we look back he warrants the pick, even though my socks weren’t knocked off initially.

RunKC 05-01-2021 07:55 AM

His straight line speed is adequate. You want your backers to have 4.6 or lower speed. He’s good there.

It’s the 3 cone and 20 yard shuttle that are worrisome. Does he have stiff hips? Because Ragland, Hitchens and Wilson all had better times.

And yes we say that doesn’t matter until we bitch about these missing tackles in the flat like Hitchens vs the Patriots a few years ago (dear God) bc of stiff hips.

I still trust this pick but it’s okay to have questions.

RunKC 05-01-2021 07:57 AM

Oh and this guy ****ing better put Neimann’s ass on the bench. We drafted 2 LB’s in the 2nd rd and paid Hitchens.

Zero reason that disaster should be out there unless it’s ST’s

Chris Meck 05-01-2021 08:17 AM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 15656409)
anyone think Bolton could simply take Niemannís role this year?

Heís clearly really smart and more athletic, physical than Niemann. Why not? I think thatíd be a great role for his rookie year if they donít trust Gay to call the defense out of the dime.

man, you watch these highlights....

I don't see how he tested 'slow'.

It looks like he's moving at an entirely different speed than everyone around him, and a lot of that tape is against top flight talent.

Now maybe that's just superior football diagnosis on his part that allows him to 'play fast', but damn.

I see no reason why we see Niemann on anything but special teams other than injury.

oldman 05-01-2021 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 15656113)
I wonder if Veach can get anything for Allegretti and Wylie? I mean he did turn Parker Ehinger into Ward.

I don't think you let Allegretti go quite yet. There's a ton of beef sitting on the bench you try to fob off 1st.

tredadda 05-01-2021 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE! (Post 15656318)
After reading up on him how did he last till 58? He seems like an awesome player and someone who can play all 3 downs

Apparently he is not running a 4.3 40 which makes him not a good player.

In58men 05-01-2021 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by tredadda (Post 15656700)
Apparently he is not running a 4.3 40 which makes him not a good player.

Do people not understand that you can train yourself to run faster?

MahomesMagic 05-01-2021 09:54 AM

Positives. Eventual cheap Hitchens replacement.

Negatives. Instincts.

smithandrew051 05-01-2021 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by tredadda (Post 15656700)
Apparently he is not running a 4.3 40 which makes him not a good player.

I remember hearing some analysis last year about the WRs. They tracked their actual speed on the field. Ruggs was the fastest player in college football by a lot.

Iíd be curious to see this with Bolton as well.

notorious 05-01-2021 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by MahomesMagic (Post 15656721)
Positives. Eventual cheap Hitchens replacement.

Negatives. Instincts.

It looks to me that he flows to the ball well and hits good angles.

He smells out plays behind the LOS.

That's instincts.

R Clark 05-01-2021 09:58 AM

[QUOTE=In58men;15656706]Do people not understand that you can train yourself to run faster?[/QUO. Some players play faster with pads than others, I think that could be part of it.

MahomesMagic 05-01-2021 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by notorious (Post 15656729)
It looks to me that he flows to the ball well and hits good angles.

He smells out plays behind the LOS.

That's instincts.

He's good in pursuit and when he can see it.

The best thing for him is to attack and Spags system depends less on reading than some others. But he is not ideal for instincts as a mike in the NFL.

He's not Devin Bush.

Chief Ten Beers 05-01-2021 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefs Pantalones (Post 15655941)
Not sure who that is but I bet heís taller and can cover better than Bolton

So you're really trying to shit on the #3 ranked ILB in this draft? The one who, as others have already said, was projected as a late first round pick by the majority of analysts?

You had best un**** yourself and get with the team

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Chris Meck 05-01-2021 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by MahomesMagic (Post 15656721)
Positives. Eventual cheap Hitchens replacement.

Negatives. Instincts.

WHAT?

Where the hell did you hear that?

Every report is that he has excellent instincts. His tape shows that he diagnoses and blows up plays all over the field.

WRONG.

Meatloaf 05-01-2021 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 15656850)
WHAT?

Where the hell did you hear that?

Every report is that he has excellent instincts. His tape shows that he diagnoses and blows up plays all over the field.

WRONG.

Agree, CM. Every player analysis I've seen list "instincts" as a definite plus for Bolton. Heck, I'm a KU guy, and even I like the pick!


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