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poolboy 09-29-2021 12:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Jenson71 (Post 15861481)
He should at least be mentioned in discussions more. Guy leads the league in HRs and RBIs. Doesn't have the Ks that Ohtani has. A very respectable average.

I'd still vote Ohtani, but Salvy's having his career year in a HOF career. Can't say that about Semien, who seems to be behind Vlad Jr for runner-up in discussions.

plus salvy was CATCHING for 120 games...talk about a mvp

WhawhaWhat 09-29-2021 08:50 AM

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Prison Bitch 09-29-2021 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 15861553)
Exactly. I know we benefited from that WC game in 14. But overall, a 1 game playoff for a 100+ win team is just not right.

Why? The NL only had 2 other good teams. There were a ton of easy wins in that league.

Deberg_1990 09-29-2021 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 15861853)
Why? The NL only had 2 other good teams. There were a ton of easy wins in that league.

A single game playoff leaves too much to chance. It’s not a true barometer of who the better team is.

ChiefsCountry 09-29-2021 10:00 AM

Look at this shitty opinion piece
https://www.si.com/mlb/royals/opinio...lberto-mondesi

Prison Bitch 09-29-2021 10:13 AM

What’s wrong with it?

KCUnited 09-29-2021 10:17 AM

Can they win 2 more to hit my over 73.5?

ROYC75 09-29-2021 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 15861882)
What’s wrong with it?

Have to agree, lays the obvious out there in black & white! Something has to give!

ChiTown 09-29-2021 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by KCUnited (Post 15861887)
Can they win 2 more to hit my over 73.5?

I can't remember exactly what I chose. I think I had a spread between 72 and 77.

ROYC75 09-29-2021 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by ChiTown (Post 15861935)
I can't remember exactly what I chose. I think I had a spread between 72 and 77.

IIRC, I said 75 to 78,that if they got some breaks and pitching came around maybe .500.

May / June literally derailed that chance, otherwise they would be on schedule for that or better!

tk13 09-29-2021 10:51 AM

Nah you can't dump someone while the price is low. There is no way the Yankees are going to trade Gleyber Torres for Mondesi. You're just going to get a middling prospect for a guy who has a talent to be a superstar. Mondesi might never get there but you can't let him go be a superstar somewhere else while you're trying to develop an Olivares or Gutierrez type prospect. That's just brutal for a small market team.

We basically just did that with Soler and it looks terrible. Traded a 40 HR, 800 OPS guy at his lowest value for a middle of the road relief prospect. You can do that and it'll make the fans happy in the short term, but it looks terrible in hindsight.

ROYC75 09-29-2021 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by tk13 (Post 15861943)
Nah you can't dump someone while the price is low. You're just going to get a middling prospect for a guy who has a talent to be a superstar. Mondesi might never get there but you can't let him go be a superstar somewhere else while you're trying to develop an Olivares or Gutierrez type prospect. That's just brutal for a small market team.

We basically just did that with Soler and it's infuriating. Traded a 40 HR, 800 OPS guy at his lowest value for a middle of the road relief prospect. You can do that and it'll make the fans happy in the short term, but it looks terrible in hindsight.

There comes a time you have to cut bait to bring the kids up into the bigs! Your analogy is we should keep Dozier because he has 30 HR potential and no real place to play him with the kids coming up!

Prison Bitch 09-29-2021 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by tk13 (Post 15861943)
Nah you can't dump someone while the price is low. There is no way the Yankees are going to trade Gleyber Torres for Mondesi. You're just going to get a middling prospect for a guy who has a talent to be a superstar. Mondesi might never get there but you can't let him go be a superstar somewhere else while you're trying to develop an Olivares or Gutierrez type prospect. That's just brutal for a small market team.

We basically just did that with Soler and it looks terrible. Traded a 40 HR, 800 OPS guy at his lowest value for a middle of the road relief prospect. You can do that and it'll make the fans happy in the short term, but it looks terrible in hindsight.


Uh,,,,,no. Soler was certainly not a 40HR 800ops guy. And besides, he’s a FA after the year anyway and he wasn’t coming back. We wouldn’t have won anything with him and we got Atlanta to assume the $3M left on his deal. That trade meant nothing to our future

tk13 09-29-2021 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by ROYC75 (Post 15861952)
There comes a time you have to cut bait to bring the kids up into the bigs! Your analogy is we should keep Dozier because he has 30 HR potential and no real place to play him with the kids coming up!

Yeah but Mondesi actually performs when he actually plays. His only problem is staying healthy. You put him in Yankee Stadium and he's going to be a 30/50 player. It's going to look stupid if you trade that for a couple middling prospects.

It sucks but that's what it is. Big market teams don't trade prospects anymore unless you get someone like Mookie Betts, and Mondesi isn't Mookie Betts. You just have to ride it out and hope the guys develop, or trade them for pennies on the dollar and watch Jorge Soler hit leadoff and smash bombs to get the Braves into the playoffs.

Bowser 09-29-2021 11:02 AM

We all know how this will play out with Mondesi - keep him and he becomes a middling contributor that flashes from time to time between stints on the DL and has us all wondering "what if" when his career is done, or trade him and watch him become a future hall of famer with his new team and be pissed we didn't get enough for him. Those are likely the options, unfortunately.


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