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ChiefsCountry 01-07-2021 12:01 PM

***Official 2021 Royals Season Repository Thread***
 
For all things Royals for the new year.

Free Agent Signings:
Carlos Santana
Mike Minor
Michael Taylor
Ervin Santana

Top 10 Prospects:
1 Bobby Witt Jr., SS
2 Asa Lacy, LHP
3 Daniel Lynch, LHP
4 Jackson Kowar, RHP
5 Erick Pena, OF
6 Nick Loftin, SS
7 Kyle Isbel, OF
8 Khali Lee, OF
9 Jonathan Bowlan, RHP
10 Carlos Hernedez, RHP

TLO 01-07-2021 12:01 PM

First!

ChiefsCountry 01-07-2021 12:02 PM

Indians making a blockbuster with the Mets

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">So far what we know of the New York-Cleveland blockbuster:<br><br>Mets get: SS Francisco Lindor and RHP Carlos Carrasco (as <a href="https://twitter.com/Feinsand?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@Feinsand</a> reported)<br><br>Cleveland gets: SS Andres Gimenez, RHP Josh Wolf, OF Isaiah Greene</p>&mdash; Jeff Passan (@JeffPassan) <a href="https://twitter.com/JeffPassan/status/1347236878202896384?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 7, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

cabletech94 01-07-2021 12:04 PM

First page!!!!!

Wilson8 01-07-2021 12:19 PM

BIG NEWS

Former Royals manager Ned Yost canning vegetables!

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“Well, we planted for the first time a bunch of tomatoes,” Yost said. “We planted okra, we planted cucumbers, we planted bell peppers. We planted jalapeno peppers. We planted corn in the garden. We planted squash. You know, I didn’t know, I was like, ‘Why are we planting squash,’ and then you figure out how to make the squash casserole and you figure it out. It was great.

“I learned how to can this summer. So we made our own salsa from the tomatoes. You know, we probably ate bacon and tomato sandwiches four days a week, because the tomatoes were so good. My daughter loves okra and she likes pickled okra. So we pickled okra, we make pickles, we, you know, we did the whole gamut. I’m telling you what, I’m looking forward to doing it again this year.“
From KC Star and an interview with 810 radio.

This is great news for the Royals. Boy, I am excited!

The Mets may have the Francisco Lindor trade, but we got canning vegetables.

Mecca 01-07-2021 12:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 15452553)
Indians making a blockbuster with the Mets

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">So far what we know of the New York-Cleveland blockbuster:<br><br>Mets get: SS Francisco Lindor and RHP Carlos Carrasco (as <a href="https://twitter.com/Feinsand?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@Feinsand</a> reported)<br><br>Cleveland gets: SS Andres Gimenez, RHP Josh Wolf, OF Isaiah Greene</p>&mdash; Jeff Passan (@JeffPassan) <a href="https://twitter.com/JeffPassan/status/1347236878202896384?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 7, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[Passan] Reports coming in that Dolan was reported saying to fans: "Lick my entire asshole". Not a good look.

KChiefs1 01-07-2021 02:10 PM

***Official 2021 Royals Season Repository Thread***
 
Wow! That’s an interesting trade.

I need Duncan’s thoughts on this one.

I guess it’s better than what the Royals got for Hosmer & Cain?

Deberg_1990 01-07-2021 02:24 PM

69 wins is my prediction!

Mecca 01-07-2021 02:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KChiefs1 (Post 15453004)
Wow! That’s an interesting trade.

I need Duncan’s thoughts on this one.

I guess it’s better than what the Royals got for Hosmer & Cain?

It's a pretty shitty return for a guy as good as Lindor.

The Indians in 18 months traded Francisco Lindor, Trevor Bauer, Mike Clevinger, Corey Kluber and Carlos Carrasco and the returns don't even have their farm system in the top 10.

More like 12-14 range like they were last year

Also their top prospects are still a few years away besides McKenzie and maybe Nolan Jones.

Overall it's not good.

duncan_idaho 01-07-2021 04:24 PM

I don't know any way to say this other than...

The Indians are the 1990s Chiefs. It's all about extending being good/decent and they have never gone ALL IN to find pieces to fit their team and complete a championship roster.

And they keep trading off stars for high-floor guys at or near the big leagues.

I mean, if you're going to trade Lindor, you need to get at least 1 top 50 prospect type. Rosario has aged out of that, and Gimenez never was that.

The trade market sucks in general because everyone is hoarding their prospects to a stupid degree. It's frustrating.

I'll get some prospect stuff worked up for KC soon.

Mecca 01-07-2021 07:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 15453578)
I don't know any way to say this other than...

The Indians are the 1990s Chiefs. It's all about extending being good/decent and they have never gone ALL IN to find pieces to fit their team and complete a championship roster.

And they keep trading off stars for high-floor guys at or near the big leagues.

I mean, if you're going to trade Lindor, you need to get at least 1 top 50 prospect type. Rosario has aged out of that, and Gimenez never was that.

The trade market sucks in general because everyone is hoarding their prospects to a stupid degree. It's frustrating.

I'll get some prospect stuff worked up for KC soon.

In today's baseball if you're willing to take on salary you can acquire high level players for nothing, look at the Padres.

OKchiefs 01-08-2021 09:53 AM

I just read on Twitter that the international signing period will start next week on January 15th, rather than the usual July 2. I'm curious what IFAs we may be linked to.

ChiefsCountry 01-09-2021 10:51 AM

Schwarber to the Nationals
https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/...ls-source-says

Al Bundy 01-09-2021 05:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OKchiefs (Post 15455234)
I just read on Twitter that the international signing period will start next week on January 15th, rather than the usual July 2. I'm curious what IFAs we may be linked to.

So am I. Duncan any info on this?

duncan_idaho 01-09-2021 08:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Al Bundy (Post 15461079)
So am I. Duncan any info on this?


Quote:

Originally Posted by Al Bundy (Post 15461079)
So am I. Duncan any info on this?


They pushed it back from last July, so there will be older guys signing than normal.

The Royals are linked to Daniel Vazquez, who is a top 15 talent. He’s a SS with a lot of projectability and the D to stick. Currently is regarded as a good contact hitter who may develop power as he fills out.

Ocotillo 01-11-2021 09:49 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">MLB news: White Sox sign Liam Hendriks, top free agent closer <a href="https://t.co/YnWetwQQK2">https://t.co/YnWetwQQK2</a> via <a href="https://twitter.com/Yahoo?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@Yahoo</a></p>&mdash; Tim Brown (@TBrownYahoo) <a href="https://twitter.com/TBrownYahoo/status/1348835536941694977?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 12, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

tk13 01-11-2021 09:49 PM

They gave him a good chunk of money.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The details on Liam Hendriks&#39; fascinating deal with the Chicago White Sox:<br><br>It is a three-year deal that will pay Hendriks $39M in those first three years. But both the buyout and fourth-year option salary are $15M, so Hendriks will receive $54M regardless of what White Sox do.</p>&mdash; Jeff Passan (@JeffPassan) <a href="https://twitter.com/JeffPassan/status/1348838400921640960?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 12, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Ocotillo 01-11-2021 09:50 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Here’s how Hendriks deal with White Sox works, per sources: He is guaranteed $54M. Buyout worth same as option. So, he gets $39M for first three years, then an additional $15M over a period of time if White Sox decline option. If White Sox pick up option, it’s four years, $54M.</p>&mdash; Ken Rosenthal (@Ken_Rosenthal) <a href="https://twitter.com/Ken_Rosenthal/status/1348839051026173954?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 12, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Ocotillo 01-11-2021 09:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tk13 (Post 15470161)
They gave him a good chunk of money.

Crazy in this cold market a team went against the conventional wisdom that relievers are volatile and not sound four-year investments. I guess the White Sox aren't scared off by the recent history of the Rockies' signings or Mark Melancon.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Hendriks <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/WhiteSox?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#WhiteSox</a> becomes the highest paid reliever in MLB history per AAV surpassing Wade Davis 17.3m and Aroldis Chapman 17.2m and Kenley Jansen 16m <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/MLB?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#MLB</a></p>&mdash; Jim Bowden (@JimBowdenGM) <a href="https://twitter.com/JimBowdenGM/status/1348839719237509121?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 12, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

tk13 01-11-2021 09:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ocotillo (Post 15470175)
Crazy in this cold market a team went against the conventional wisdom that relievers are volatile and not sound four-year investments. I guess the White Sox aren't scared off by the recent history of the Rockies' signings or Mark Melancon.

Especially since Hendriks is gonna be 32 this year.

Ocotillo 01-11-2021 10:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tk13 (Post 15470179)
Especially since Hendriks is gonna be 32 this year.

He's also been DFA'd four times.

It's also the ultimate buyer's market for relievers.

ChiefsCountry 01-15-2021 02:30 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">We have agreed to terms with RHP Brad Keller and INF Adalberto Mondesi for the 2021 season, avoiding arbitration.<br><br>With those agreements, no arb-eligible players remain unsigned. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Royals?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Royals</a></p>&mdash; Kansas City Royals (@Royals) <a href="https://twitter.com/Royals/status/1350148379238690821?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 15, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

KChiefs1 01-15-2021 03:13 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Source: <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Royals?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Royals</a> agree to $1.5 million deal with shortstop Daniel Vazquez, #12 on <a href="https://twitter.com/MLBPipeline?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@MLBPipeline</a>’s Top 30 Int’l Prospects list. <a href="https://t.co/mICaTNBDWa">https://t.co/mICaTNBDWa</a></p>&mdash; Jesse Sanchez (@JesseSanchezMLB) <a href="https://twitter.com/JesseSanchezMLB/status/1350082564543959041?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 15, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

KChiefs1 01-15-2021 03:17 PM

White Sox keep signing prospects.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Notable International Signings: 1/15/21 <a href="https://t.co/iOI2PyLWfA">https://t.co/iOI2PyLWfA</a> <a href="https://t.co/EO5QUFli9D">pic.twitter.com/EO5QUFli9D</a></p>&mdash; MLB Trade Rumors (@mlbtraderumors) <a href="https://twitter.com/mlbtraderumors/status/1350106429139673088?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 15, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Al Bundy 01-18-2021 02:18 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Wilson Betemit Jr. signs with the Royals.<a href="https://t.co/ictibaGwmS">https://t.co/ictibaGwmS</a> <a href="https://t.co/321vrmlCUp">pic.twitter.com/321vrmlCUp</a></p>&mdash; Ben Badler (@BenBadler) <a href="https://twitter.com/BenBadler/status/1351261415940648960?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 18, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

KChiefs1 01-19-2021 10:44 AM

https://theathletic.com/2330667/2021...uture-outlook/

Royals payroll assessment: The past, the present and the future outlook
by
Alec Lewis
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Asked in November if he had a set budget for the 2021 season, Royals general manager Dayton Moore explained the present strategy, which focuses not just on one season but the next three years.

Doing so involves projections for current big leaguers. Prospect development plays a role, too. So does the free-agent market, potential trades that pop up and the looming changes that could come up once the current collective bargaining agreement expires at year’s end, among a bunch of other factors.

Moore, Royals chairman and CEO John Sherman and the collection of owners have thought through them, of course. For now, one theme has emerged.

“Where (many of our players) are in their service time,” Moore said, “is naturally going to keep our payroll a little bit down, which I’m more than fine with because we have to give our young players opportunities if we’re going to get back to a championship level of play on a consistent payroll.”

None of this is to say Moore lies in bed at night tossing and turning over dollar figures. He doesn’t. His mind flips from the Royals’ current crop of players to prospective players, and how they may or may not make sense for the team at a certain time. Those types of decisions require financial analysis, though, so the payroll remains present, hovering above what’s tumbling inside the mind, and spoken through conversation, almost as an extension of the subconscious.

With that in mind, we thought it’d be valuable to take a deeper dive into the dollar figures, seeing what we can learn from the past, thinking about what might change in the present and pondering what the books could look like in the future.

A road map from the last decade
Past experiences influence most present and future decisions, and baseball takes from life in this respect.

That said, there are many confounding variables. To name a few: The COVID-19 pandemic has altered projections and expectations in ways that lack precedent; the Royals announced a multiyear television agreement with Sinclair Broadcast Group in August; a new ownership group is making the financial decisions.

So this section comes with a caveat: Perusing past numbers can go only so far.

Let’s start with the Royals’ previous contention cycle. Moore was hired in 2006, and by 2007, the Royals’ Opening Day payroll hovered around $67 million, per Cot’s Contracts. That figure crept close to $75 million in 2010, but dipped back down as the Royals prepared to launch a competitive club from the ground up.

In 2012, the Royals made two moves that, thinking about the current state of the roster, are intriguing. They extended both Salvador Perez and Alcides Escobar before both players became arbitration-eligible. Could that happen again for pitchers such as Josh Staumont, Scott Barlow, Tyler Zuber, Brady Singer or Kris Bubic? Time will tell, of course, but Moore’s perspective on extensions is clear-cut.

“All of our players, especially the homegrown guys entering the prime of their careers, we want to do our best to keep them here long term,” Moore said recently. “You can assume that we’re always having those discussions. … We’ll always do our best to keep our good players here as long as we can.”

Getting back to the overall dollar figure, the Royals started 2014 committed to paying nearly $92 million on Opening Day. That number peaked in 2017 at around $143 million but dipped down consistently ahead of 2020. Had it not been for the COVID-19 pandemic and prorated salaries, the Royals were projected to pay nearly $89 million at the beginning of last year.

Which brings us to the present.

What’s the plan for 2021?
The Royals knew they had flexibility when this offseason arrived.

Danny Duffy and Salvador Perez were entering the final years of their deals, and Whit Merrifield was the only player under contract through 2022. So they targeted specific needs: a center fielder, which became Michael A. Taylor; a middle-of-the-order bat, which became Carlos Santana; starting pitching depth, which became Mike Minor; and bullpen help, which meant the return of Greg Holland.

Add the eight arbitration agreements into the fold and the Royals’ Opening Day payroll currently is projected around $84 million.

As we’ve noted in recent weeks, the Royals may add more players before the season begins. Moore has repeatedly mentioned a search for a left-handed bat, a player who will provide depth in the outfield but also some versatility. Starting pitching depth is a focus, and another bullpen arm may make sense, too.

How much more do the Royals have to spend? The answer may indicate where the Royals feel they are on the contention curve.

What the future looks like
Extensions made sense in the Royals’ first wave of contention under Moore and they make sense now. As mentioned earlier, Perez and Duffy are entering the final years of their contracts. Jorge Soler, meanwhile, will be a free agent at season’s end.

You could make a case for an extension for each player. Perez, 30, underwent Tommy John surgery — a rarity for a catcher — but returned in 2020 and won a Silver Slugger Award. With the young pitching rising the ranks, how could a club turn down the services of a productive veteran catcher?

Duffy, 32, posted a 4.95 ERA in 11 starts last season, but he’s a homegrown Royals pitcher, and when the Royals have used him out of the bullpen in his career, Duffy has posted a 2.57 ERA in 35 innings. Could he anchor a bullpen and help the young prospects transition for a price the Royals would be willing to pay?

Soler, 28, may be the most interesting case of all. He has had an injury-riddled career, but when he’s been healthy like he was in 2019, he can do things like lead the American League in home runs (48). Does Soler’s love for Kansas City mean he’ll be willing to take less than he could get elsewhere?

The larger question: Do the Royals have enough flexibility to extend all three of these players?

The answer to that question, of course, is affected by the younger players. Brad Keller, Hunter Dozier and Adalberto Mondesi are all homegrown players. Each agreed to deals with the Royals ahead of the arbitration deadline, but the Royals could buy out their remaining arbitration-eligible seasons by signing them to extensions. (In 2019, the Royals extended Merrifield, canceling out the final pre-arbitration season and three arbitration-eligible seasons.)

Then there’s the potential strategy the Chicago White Sox have employed recently, extending Luis Robert and Eloy Jimenez even before they made their debuts. Whether a Royals prospect such as Bobby Witt Jr. or Daniel Lynch would be open to this type of deal is a valid question, but it’s another possibility for the future.

The Royals are fortunate in that the payroll provides loads of flexibility in the next three years, the timetable Moore mentioned. As things currently stand, the Royals’ 2022 payroll sits at around $40 million, though arbitration-eligible players would see bumps in pay and others would be entering arbitration.

Beyond Merrifield’s team option in 2023, the slate is clean. The best comparison is a cloudless blue sky, the sun beaming, a whole host of possibilities awaiting.

dallaschiefsfan 01-19-2021 09:52 PM

Didn't see that anyone had posted this yet. Four in the top 100. Three in the top 50.
https://www.baseballamerica.com/rank...100-prospects/

Bobby Witt (#16), Daniel Lynch (#25), Asa Lacy (#37), Jackson Kowar (#95)

dlphg9 01-19-2021 09:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dallaschiefsfan (Post 15492711)
Didn't see that anyone had posted this yet. Four in the top 100. Three in the top 50.
https://www.baseballamerica.com/rank...100-prospects/

Bobby Witt (#16), Daniel Lynch (#25), Asa Lacy (#37), Jackson Kowar (#95)

Daniel Lynch surprises me that he's so high and Witt Jr. seems too low.

KChiefs1 01-19-2021 09:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dallaschiefsfan (Post 15492711)
Didn't see that anyone had posted this yet. Four in the top 100. Three in the top 50.
https://www.baseballamerica.com/rank...100-prospects/

Bobby Witt (#16), Daniel Lynch (#25), Asa Lacy (#37), Jackson Kowar (#95)

Witt at #16? :hmmm:

I thought for sure he would be top 10.

dlphg9 01-19-2021 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by KChiefs1 (Post 15492728)
Witt at #16? :hmmm:

I thought for sure he would be top 10.

Yep that one confuses me

Ocotillo 01-19-2021 10:02 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Springer and Jays agree at $150M for 6 years</p>&mdash; Jon Heyman (@JonHeyman) <a href="https://twitter.com/JonHeyman/status/1351740142743130114?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 20, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

tk13 01-19-2021 10:18 PM

Jays are going to be able to hit. That's for sure.

KChiefs1 01-20-2021 10:25 AM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/OTD?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#OTD</a> in 1969, we unveiled our first-ever uniforms. <a href="https://t.co/spo6Yi5yxN">pic.twitter.com/spo6Yi5yxN</a></p>&mdash; Kansas City Royals (@Royals) <a href="https://twitter.com/Royals/status/1351892236326346754?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 20, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

KChiefs1 01-20-2021 10:30 AM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">We have signed RHP Wade Davis to a minor league contract. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Royals?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Royals</a></p>&mdash; Kansas City Royals (@Royals) <a href="https://twitter.com/Royals/status/1351929986412851203?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 20, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

KChiefs1 01-20-2021 10:38 AM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Wade Davis&#39; deal with the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Royals?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Royals</a> will pay him $1.25 million if he&#39;s on their big-league roster with $925,000 in incentives. He also has an opt-out if he doesn&#39;t make their opening-day roster.</p>&mdash; Bob Nightengale (@BNightengale) <a href="https://twitter.com/BNightengale/status/1351932092318269441?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 20, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

dallaschiefsfan 01-20-2021 11:05 AM

Fun signing...but not expecting much. If he's able to pull a Holland, then it will be nice to have another championship vet in the bullpen for the younger guys.

Funkstown 01-20-2021 11:05 AM

I see the Royals having a 500 record this year.

RedinTexas 01-20-2021 11:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Funkstown (Post 15493738)
I see the Royals having a 500 record this year.

I'd take that.

Deberg_1990 01-20-2021 12:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Funkstown (Post 15493738)
I see the Royals having a 500 record this year.

ROFL

louie aguiar 01-20-2021 12:05 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Source confirms: Free-agent Michael Brantley in agreement with Blue Jays on a three-year contract, pending physical. First: <a href="https://twitter.com/thehazelmae?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@thehazelmae</a>.</p>&mdash; Ken Rosenthal (@Ken_Rosenthal) <a href="https://twitter.com/Ken_Rosenthal/status/1351936891294281729?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 20, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

ChiefsCountry 01-20-2021 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 15493921)
ROFL

Royals went .500 last year with their entire schedule expect the White Sox.

ROYC75 01-20-2021 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 15494072)
Royals went .500 last year with their entire schedule expect the White Sox.

Very short season. This year, .500 ? I Would take that in a heartbeat! The vets on this team will not carry them to it. The kids will get some very good playing experience to use as a stepping stone to next year. A lot of this years success will be pitching, can we get enough quality innings from starters and can a good bullpen come out of camp.

"If" it all comes together? 80 - 85 wins

Good Stepping stone season ? 72 - 79 wins

If we sustain a lot of injuries? 65 - 71 wins

IMHO based off last years strong finish, I think we come without the bad start like last year, finish with a 72 to 79 win season. Not what we want but a good building block for the 22 season.

Wilson8 01-20-2021 02:33 PM

Wade Davis coming back is an interesting story and I hope for Wade and the Royals, he can have some success.

It has been since 2018 though that Wade Davis been any good. His last two seasons in Colorado have been pretty bad and even 2018 wasn't that good.

Wade Davis Stats -
https://www.baseball-reference.com/p...aviswa01.shtml

Low cost minor league deal, so it is worth checking him out.

Kelvin Herrera is still a free agent.

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Wilson8 01-20-2021 03:06 PM

So Royals have now signed former Royals pitchers, Mike Minor, Ervin Santana, Greg Holland, and now Wade Davis.

I would not mind bringing back Trevor Rosenthal.

tk13 01-21-2021 12:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wilson8 (Post 15494456)
Wade Davis coming back is an interesting story and I hope for Wade and the Royals, he can have some success.

It has been since 2018 though that Wade Davis been any good. His last two seasons in Colorado have been pretty bad and even 2018 wasn't that good.

Wade Davis Stats -
https://www.baseball-reference.com/p...aviswa01.shtml

Low cost minor league deal, so it is worth checking him out.

Kelvin Herrera is still a free agent.

.

Last couple years for Wade have been brutal, but he generally pitched better when he was away from Coors Field. If you're going to get a lottery ticket it might as well be a guy leaving that death trap for pitchers.

Titty Meat 01-21-2021 10:44 PM

Albeit a small sample size Matheny was better than alot of posters on here said he would be. Team should compete for .500 this year much better than Edgar who probably should have been hunting and canning vegetables a few years ago.

WhawhaWhat 01-22-2021 08:53 AM

Lost him 4 years ago today.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Yordano Ventura, 101mph Fastball and K Strut. <a href="https://t.co/0BMMRn3m5n">pic.twitter.com/0BMMRn3m5n</a></p>&mdash; Rob Friedman (@PitchingNinja) <a href="https://twitter.com/PitchingNinja/status/1352612145733767172?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 22, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

big nasty kcnut 01-22-2021 10:32 AM

RIP ACE and 4 years later we lose hank aaron. Guess God wanted ACE to hang out with Hank! Maybe see if hank could hit ACE fastball.

nychief 01-22-2021 10:36 AM

Royals missed out Profar.

https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2021/...on-profar.html

MAHOMO 4 LIFE! 01-23-2021 12:28 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Yankees?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Yankees</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Royals?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Royals</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Marlins?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Marlins</a> all possibilities for Yasiel Puig according to sources</p>&mdash; Jim Bowden (@JimBowdenGM) <a href="https://twitter.com/JimBowdenGM/status/1353023196178522114?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 23, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Wilson8 01-23-2021 04:00 PM

I think Puig goes to Marlins.

Ocotillo 01-24-2021 11:43 AM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The New York Yankees have acquired Jameson Taillon from the Pittsburgh Pirates for Miguel Yajure, Roansy Contreras, Maikel Escotto and<br>Canaan Smith, sources tell ESPN.</p>&mdash; Jeff Passan (@JeffPassan) <a href="https://twitter.com/JeffPassan/status/1353396584822829058?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 24, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

duncan_idaho 01-24-2021 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Ocotillo (Post 15502443)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The New York Yankees have acquired Jameson Taillon from the Pittsburgh Pirates for Miguel Yajure, Roansy Contreras, Maikel Escotto and<br>Canaan Smith, sources tell ESPN.</p>— Jeff Passan (@JeffPassan) <a href="https://twitter.com/JeffPassan/status/1353396584822829058?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 24, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>


In related news, I have acquired a 1967 Shelby GT Cobra for a children’s bicycle, a razr scooter, 3 cups of coffee, and a signed photograph of Jim Eisenrach.

ChiefsCountry 01-24-2021 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 15502676)
In related news, I have acquired a 1967 Shelby GT Cobra for a children’s bicycle, a razr scooter, 3 cups of coffee, and a signed photograph of Jim Eisenrach.

Pittsburgh ownership group makes David Glass look like George Steinbrenner

dlphg9 01-24-2021 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 15502691)
Pittsburgh ownership group makes David Glass look like George Steinbrenner

Can't believe David Glass gets hate around here anymore.

Prison Bitch 01-24-2021 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 15502676)
In related news, I have acquired a 1967 Shelby GT Cobra for a children’s bicycle, a razr scooter, 3 cups of coffee, and a signed photograph of Jim Eisenrach.


A guy with two TJs on the same elbow ain’t a ‘67 Cobra.

dallaschiefsfan 01-28-2021 08:01 AM

Keith Law just posted his top 100 at The Athletic. He put Lynch at 17, Witt at 27 and Lacy at 30.

louie aguiar 01-28-2021 08:15 AM

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Originally Posted by dallaschiefsfan (Post 15515060)
Keith Law just posted his top 100 at The Athletic. He put Lynch at 17, Witt at 27 and Lacy at 30.

pretty disappointing that after years of picking near the top of the draft the royals don't have a top 10 prospect and only have 3 in the top 100 (at least according to Keith Law)

KChiefs1 01-28-2021 08:19 AM

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Originally Posted by dallaschiefsfan (Post 15515060)
Keith Law just posted his top 100 at The Athletic. He put Lynch at 17, Witt at 27 and Lacy at 30.

That's just stupid.

dallaschiefsfan 01-28-2021 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by louie aguiar (Post 15515076)
pretty disappointing that after years of picking near the top of the draft the royals don't have a top 10 prospect and only have 3 in the top 100 (at least according to Keith Law)

OR...you could look at it this way - they consistently have 3 players in the top 50 on most lists - which is good, if not great. The back 50 seem a bit more volatile on most lists. Kower slips into that zone on some lists. Pena would be the other likely top 100 player on several lists if he had more of a body of work in the minors. I could see guys like Isbel taking the Whitt Merrifield route...never on anyone's list, but just performs better than many former top 100 prospects once he's actually in the majors.

dallaschiefsfan 01-28-2021 09:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by louie aguiar (Post 15515076)
pretty disappointing that after years of picking near the top of the draft the royals don't have a top 10 prospect and only have 3 in the top 100 (at least according to Keith Law)

PLUS...we just graduated Singer and Bubic to the majors last year. So technically, the pipeline has already started the replenishment process at the MLB level.

duncan_idaho 01-28-2021 09:59 AM

Once we get through the SB, I'll throw my own thoughts up on prospects and where the Royals stand.

Witt is going to be my #1 guy. Lacy and Lynch and Pena will follow.

Such a weird year to look at prospects. So much of what we normally can reference was all behind closed doors last season.

Ocotillo 02-01-2021 09:09 PM

Contact-hitting extraordinaire. Porous walk rate though, and a lot of low-quality contact, but a true asset against southpaws.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">We have signed INF Hanser Alberto to a minor league contract. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Royals?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Royals</a></p>&mdash; Kansas City Royals (@Royals) <a href="https://twitter.com/Royals/status/1356033627591761926?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 1, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

chefsos 02-01-2021 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Ocotillo (Post 15522460)
Contact-hitting extraordinaire. Porous walk rate though, and a lot of low-quality contact, but a true asset against southpaws.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">We have signed INF Hanser Alberto to a minor league contract. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Royals?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Royals</a></p>&mdash; Kansas City Royals (@Royals) <a href="https://twitter.com/Royals/status/1356033627591761926?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 1, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

If he makes your team, he's a fun guy to watch; I'm gonna miss him in Baltimore. Comes out of the dugout hacking, but doesn't strike out much, and sprays the ball all over. Little power to speak of but he might get some more gappers in that big outfield. And he'll drop down a bunt at any time. Defensively, he will make a couple nice hustle plays and a couple bonehead ones, too. I hope he does well for you guys.

ChiefsCountry 02-02-2021 08:14 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The Royals are not in on Yasiel Puig. Which makes it a clean sweep. The 3 teams rumored to be in on Puig — Marlins, Yankees and Royals — are not interested. For his sake, hopefully there are teams.</p>&mdash; Jon Heyman (@JonHeyman) <a href="https://twitter.com/JonHeyman/status/1356785302380150784?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 3, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

cmh6476 02-08-2021 04:15 PM

pitchers and catchers report one week from today

siberian khatru 02-10-2021 08:09 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Benintendi dealt to Royals, pending approvals, medicals</p>&mdash; Jon Heyman (@JonHeyman) <a href="https://twitter.com/JonHeyman/status/1359682307850919939?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 11, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">3-way deal between Royals, Red Sox and Mets will need Commish approval as $ is going to KC in deal. <a href="https://twitter.com/ByRobertMurray?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@ByRobertMurray</a> had teams, <a href="https://twitter.com/jonmorosi?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@jonmorosi</a> 1st mentioned</p>&mdash; Jon Heyman (@JonHeyman) <a href="https://twitter.com/JonHeyman/status/1359684596200267782?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 11, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

ChiefsCountry 02-10-2021 08:13 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">3-way deal between Royals, Red Sox and Mets will need Commish approval as $ is going to KC in deal. <a href="https://twitter.com/ByRobertMurray?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@ByRobertMurray</a> had teams, <a href="https://twitter.com/jonmorosi?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@jonmorosi</a> 1st mentioned</p>&mdash; Jon Heyman (@JonHeyman) <a href="https://twitter.com/JonHeyman/status/1359684596200267782?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 11, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

ChiefsCountry 02-10-2021 08:15 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Hearing that the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Mets?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Mets</a> have had interest in <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Royals?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Royals</a> OF prospect Khalil Lewis. They are involved in this 3-way trade possibility with the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Red?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Red</a> Sox and KC.</p>&mdash; Joel Sherman (@Joelsherman1) <a href="https://twitter.com/Joelsherman1/status/1359687171909812224?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 11, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Archie Bunker 02-10-2021 08:15 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Outfield prospect Khalil Lee is expected to go to the New York Mets in the three-way deal with Boston and KC that would send Andrew Benintendi to the Royals. Outfielder Franchy Cordero would go to the Red Sox once the deal is finalized, sources tell ESPN. Others are involved.</p>&mdash; Jeff Passan (@JeffPassan) <a href="https://twitter.com/JeffPassan/status/1359687192440889348?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 11, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

TomBarndtsTwin 02-10-2021 08:17 PM

Well, there’s that LH OF bat the Royals been wanting. Good buy low candidate on a down year, still only 26. Also getting money to cover his contract. Hopefully we didn’t give up too much prospect capital, but I like the move on the surface.

That lineup is looking pretty strong for 2021.

Mecca 02-10-2021 08:17 PM

That deal has Khalil Lee going to the Mets and Franchy Cordero to Boston.

Mecca 02-10-2021 08:18 PM

Lee is a great athlete but he does have some serious hit tool questions.

siberian khatru 02-10-2021 08:18 PM

Win now move

TomBarndtsTwin 02-10-2021 08:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Archie Bunker (Post 15544010)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Outfield prospect Khalil Lee is expected to go to the New York Mets in the three-way deal with Boston and KC that would send Andrew Benintendi to the Royals. Outfielder Franchy Cordero would go to the Red Sox once the deal is finalized, sources tell ESPN. Others are involved.</p>&mdash; Jeff Passan (@JeffPassan) <a href="https://twitter.com/JeffPassan/status/1359687192440889348?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 11, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

I like Lee, but to turn him into Benintendi is a huge ****ing win! And all we had to give up in addition was Franchy? Surely that can’t be right. There’s gotta be more.

If not, what a ****ing steal of a deal!

Mecca 02-10-2021 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by siberian khatru (Post 15544017)
Win now move

With a new owner Moore's ass is closer to the fire than ever.

Chiefspants 02-10-2021 08:21 PM

GMDM is absolutely bullish about the year and it’s fun to see.

tk13 02-10-2021 08:21 PM

There's the really aggressive Dayton Moore trade we were all waiting for.

siberian khatru 02-10-2021 08:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 15544023)
With a new owner Moore's ass is closer to the fire than ever.

Indeed. But didn’t give up any of the young arms.

Why Not? 02-10-2021 08:22 PM

If the young pitchers develop like we think, this could be a really fun team to watch this year. Love the move by Dayton. Not sitting back and waiting 30 more years to try and get some excitement going. Not just sitting there and saying "It's a Chiefs city now so we'll just be in the background sucking"


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