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arrowheadnation 10-03-2018 03:53 PM

So is Landon Collins the official “trade for him Veach” flavor of the week?
 
Starting to be more and more mentions of him being a possible trade target on Twitter. I wouldn’t be against it depending on what they want. Dude is a stud and he dominated us last year (sorry to bring it up). Any chance it happens?

htismaqe 10-03-2018 03:54 PM

Why would they trade Collins?

Sassy Squatch 10-03-2018 03:55 PM

If he's actually available, Veach will be on him like flies on shit.

BryanBusby 10-03-2018 03:56 PM

Hello if it's officially trending, give me credit for mentioning it awhile ago tia

The Franchise 10-03-2018 03:56 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I&#39;ve had several people ask me about the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a> possibly calling the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Giants?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Giants</a> to ask about Landon Collins.<br>The Giants could definitely be moving some pieces, but they&#39;re not really in a position to be selling young up-and-coming stars.<br>UNLESS...<br>(thread)</p>&mdash; Joshua Brisco (@jbbrisco) <a href="https://twitter.com/jbbrisco/status/1047537434337181697?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 3, 2018</a></blockquote>
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Beef Supreme 10-03-2018 03:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BryanBusby (Post 13787663)
Hello if it's officially trending, give me credit for mentioning it awhile ago tia

Your mentioning it is probably why it is now trending.

arrowheadnation 10-03-2018 04:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 13787659)
Why would they trade Collins?

We get this thread to 5000 posts and they have to. It’s in the rules. It worked for ET, but the message board gods couldn’t control him getting injured. :)

The Franchise 10-03-2018 04:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 13787659)
Why would they trade Collins?

He'll be up for a new contract after this season. Maybe they don't want to pay him. The Giants are in desperate need of a rebuild. Now that doesn't necessarily mean to trade away a 25 year old safety.....but it doesn't mean you have to keep him either.

BryanBusby 10-03-2018 04:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 13787659)
Why would they trade Collins?

The Giants need to rebuild the entire right side of its OL, a good chunk of their front 7 and they have to find a QB. Eli is cooked.

They probably need to load up on draft picks to move up in the draft to nab a QB.

Jerok 10-03-2018 04:12 PM

I've literally never heard of him, I just read OP and went right down here to comment.

DO IT VEACH.

Hog's Gone Fishin 10-03-2018 04:15 PM

He won't be cheap

carcosa 10-03-2018 04:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hog's Gone Fishin (Post 13787700)
He won't be cheap

I DONT CARE

DO IT VEAXH

Johnny Vegas 10-03-2018 04:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hog's Gone Fishin (Post 13787700)
He won't be cheap

Would he take a discount knowing Mahomes is the QB?? I’d certainly think so.

carcosa 10-03-2018 04:21 PM

WE NEED TO MAKE THIS HAPPEN

TambaBerry 10-03-2018 04:22 PM

ill play the pessimist on this, there is maybe a 1% chance that the giants trade this guy

carcosa 10-03-2018 04:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TambaBerry (Post 13787717)
ill play the pessimist on this, there is maybe a 1% chance that the giants trade this guy

GTFO!!!!!

Sassy Squatch 10-03-2018 04:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TambaBerry (Post 13787717)
ill play the pessimist on this, there is maybe a 1% chance that the giants trade this guy

No kidding. Earl Thomas is one thing. Giants would be absolutely stupid to let this guy go.

htismaqe 10-03-2018 04:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 13787730)
No kidding. Earl Thomas is one thing. Giants would be absolutely stupid to let this guy go.

Yep. This is crazy talk.

Simply Red 10-03-2018 04:29 PM

SING HYMN CRAW!!

MTG#10 10-03-2018 04:31 PM

They'll want at least a 1st. Dude's only 24 and been to two Pro Bowls.

KC Hawks 10-03-2018 04:31 PM

His mom will be displeased if he's not traded to the Chiefs.

DJ's left nut 10-03-2018 04:31 PM

I've never really made my mind up on Collins and I think it's an "Alabama Defensive Back" thing.

They've just had so many guys come out of that secondary (hell, their LB corps as well) who end up stiffs in coverage and spend time looking for someone to hit rather than playing smart.

And because of that impression, I always just assume he's more of a box safety and big hitter type. I'm not sure if that's accurate and would be open to persuasion either way. He's just never been a guy where I've thought "yeah, there's a dude that can transform a defense..."

Thomas, setting aside questions of durability, compensation and draft pick cost, absolutely was that kind of player. He allows you to play schemes that you simply can't play without a remarkably athletic, intelligent player capable of killing it as a single-high. Collins, OTOH, has always just struck me as a steady safety in a regular ol' safety mold.

BryanBusby 10-03-2018 04:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 13787730)
No kidding. Earl Thomas is one thing. Giants would be absolutely stupid to let this guy go.

Would take a team that drafted a RB 2nd overall when they needed a QB to do something that stupid, you could say.

Sassy Squatch 10-03-2018 04:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BryanBusby (Post 13787743)
Would take a team that drafted a RB 2nd overall when they needed a QB to do something that stupid, you could say.

Yeah, I was thinking that while typing it. Just left it alone.

htismaqe 10-03-2018 04:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BryanBusby (Post 13787743)
Would take a team that drafted a RB 2nd overall when they needed a QB to do something that stupid, you could say.

ROFL

Truth!

carcosa 10-03-2018 04:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MTG#10 (Post 13787739)
They'll want at least a 1st. Dude's only 24 and been to two Pro Bowls.

THEN GUVE THEM A FURST!!!

Simply Red 10-03-2018 04:47 PM

If I were Veach I'd cut my balls off and deliver them in a pizza box, if that's what they want!

BryanBusby 10-03-2018 04:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 13787753)
Yeah, I was thinking that while typing it. Just left it alone.

Heh. I do agree in general sense that Collins is a guy that you would want to keep.

But, I've seen reports that he'll be asking for around what EB is getting and I don't know if the Giants will agree to pay it.

If I were Veach, I'd at least make the call and see but ultimately hold out hope that the team doesn't start to derail before Sorensen and Berry return.

TLO 10-03-2018 04:51 PM

Only 3000 posts until he's traded for. Let's make it HAPPEN!!

Sassy Squatch 10-03-2018 04:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BryanBusby (Post 13787771)
Heh. I do agree in general sense that Collins is a guy that you would want to keep.

But, I've seen reports that he'll be asking for around what EB is getting and I don't know if the Giants will agree to pay it.

If I were Veach, I'd at least make the call and see but ultimately hold out hope that the team doesn't start to derail before Sorensen and Berry return.

I think I'd call the Texans up about Mathieu first. There's actually a slim chance the Texans would trade him, I think.

The Franchise 10-03-2018 04:52 PM

As of right now....the Giants have $18 million in cap space next season. Now, they can get $17 million if they cut Eli.....but they'd basically be starting a rookie QB then....where ever they find one.

Sassy Squatch 10-03-2018 04:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Pest (Post 13787784)
As of right now....the Giants have $18 million in cap space next season. Now, they can get $17 million if they cut Eli.....but they'd basically be starting a rookie QB then....where ever they find one.

Yeesh. Thought they'd have quite a bit more than that considering their talent level.

DJ's left nut 10-03-2018 04:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BryanBusby (Post 13787771)
Heh. I do agree in general sense that Collins is a guy that you would want to keep.

But, I've seen reports that he'll be asking for around what EB is getting and I don't know if the Giants will agree to pay it.

If I were Veach, I'd at least make the call and see but ultimately hold out hope that the team doesn't start to derail before Sorensen and Berry return.

Can he be an effective Cover 1 style safety?

Because that's the only kind of safety worth shelling out big money for anymore. The rest of them are so damn fungible; they're shifting skills around in the margins. If your safeties suck (ours probably do) then it's worth spending a million or two for a credible veteran option like Tre Boston.

But once you get above a thresshold level of competence, you're getting quickly diminishing returns unless the guy is someone like Earl Thomas and can play a style of game that's uniquely well suited to this era of football.

Even a healthy Eric Berry isn't worth $13 million anymore because he's not that kind of safety. If Collins is a poor man's Berry (or even healthy Berry himself), I can't see any reason why we should give him that kind of jack.

BryanBusby 10-03-2018 04:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 13787789)
Can he be an effective Cover 1 style safety?

Because that's the only kind of safety worth shelling out big money for anymore. The rest of them are so damn fungible; they're shifting skills around in the margins. If your safeties suck (ours probably do) then it's worth spending a million or two for a credible veteran option like Tre Boston.

But once you get above a thresshold level of competence, you're getting quickly diminishing returns unless the guy is someone like Earl Thomas and can play a style of game that's uniquely well suited to this era of football.

Even a healthy Eric Berry isn't worth $13 million anymore because he's not that kind of safety. If Collins is a poor man's Berry (or even healthy Berry himself), I can't see any reason why we should give him that kind of jack.

You're not going to get an elite coverage guy like Earl Thomas, but I don't think Collins is a bum in that department.

He's a well-rounded player.

htismaqe 10-03-2018 05:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 13787789)
Can he be an effective Cover 1 style safety?

Because that's the only kind of safety worth shelling out big money for anymore. The rest of them are so damn fungible; they're shifting skills around in the margins. If your safeties suck (ours probably do) then it's worth spending a million or two for a credible veteran option like Tre Boston.

But once you get above a thresshold level of competence, you're getting quickly diminishing returns unless the guy is someone like Earl Thomas and can play a style of game that's uniquely well suited to this era of football.

Even a healthy Eric Berry isn't worth $13 million anymore because he's not that kind of safety. If Collins is a poor man's Berry (or even healthy Berry himself), I can't see any reason why we should give him that kind of jack.

Totally agree.

Bump 10-03-2018 05:14 PM

I didn't realize it's only his 4th season, thought he was older for some reason. I doubt the Giants would trade him but it would be awesome if they did.

New World Order 10-03-2018 05:17 PM

I think Veach trades for someone before the deadline

Naptown Chief 10-03-2018 05:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arrowheadnation (Post 13787676)
We get this thread to 5000 posts and they have to. It’s in the rules. It worked for ET, but the message board gods couldn’t control him getting injured. :)

Loving the enthusiasm kid

Naptown Chief 10-03-2018 05:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TLO (Post 13787779)
Only 3000 posts until he's traded for. Let's make it HAPPEN!!

5000 was already agreed upon. See above

carcosa 10-03-2018 05:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by New World Order (Post 13787829)
I think Veach trades for someone before the deadline

Yes!

New World Order 10-03-2018 05:50 PM

ALL ABOARD THE LANDON COLLINS TRAIN!

LETS GO!

Naptown Chief 10-03-2018 05:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by carcosa (Post 13787871)
Yes!

5001 posts or this guy ^ won't attend your birthday party

carcosa 10-03-2018 05:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by New World Order (Post 13787873)
ALL ABOARD THE LANDON COLLINS TRAIN!

LETS GO!

WE MUST BOMBARD EVERY FOOTBALL WRITER WITH QUESRIONS ABOUT COLLINS TO CHIEFS!!!

Naptown Chief 10-03-2018 05:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by New World Order (Post 13787873)
ALL ABOARD THE LANDON COLLINS TRAIN!

LETS GO!

You can do eeet!

T-post Tom 10-03-2018 05:51 PM

I think someone should do a poll for the next "trade for" thread. I'll start:

Antoine Bethea


Cards going nowhere. This guy is older (by NFL standards), but leads his team in tackles this year and by all accounts is still playing like a stud. He would be a major upgrade at free safety. And his contract is reasonable (3/4 of base for this year & base only next year, via trade). Stopgap for this year and possibly next year.:

https://i.imgur.com/ytvtUnU.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/ytvtUnU.jpg

Naptown Chief 10-03-2018 05:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by carcosa (Post 13787876)
WE MUST BOMBARD EVERY FOOTBALL WRITER WITH QUESRIONS ABOUT COLLINS TO CHIEFS!!!

SR may even need to send a nude or two

carcosa 10-03-2018 05:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dwwataz (Post 13787875)
5001 posts or this guy ^ won't attend your birthday party

And I desperately want to!!!

carcosa 10-03-2018 05:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by T-post Tom (Post 13787879)
I think someone should do a poll for the next "trade for" thread. I'll start:

Antoine Bethea


Cards going nowhere. This guy is older (by NFL standards), but leads his team in tackles this year and by all accounts is still playing like a stud. He would be a major upgrade at free safety. And his contract is reasonable:

https://i.imgur.com/ytvtUnU.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/ytvtUnU.jpg

We got a thread about this guy already

TwistedChief 10-03-2018 05:55 PM

If it trends on Twitter, it must be true! Just bought my Super Bowl tickets. With Collins in the secondary and Berry coming back for the AFCG, we can't lose.

Naptown Chief 10-03-2018 06:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TwistedChief (Post 13787892)
If it trends on Twitter, it must be true! Just bought my Super Bowl tickets. With Collins in the secondary and Berry coming back for the AFCG, we can't lose.

Don't forget about Earl and Bashaud, you goose!

Easy 6 10-03-2018 06:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jerok (Post 13787686)
I've literally never heard of him, I just read OP and went right down here to comment.

DO IT VEACH.

ROFL

New World Order 10-03-2018 06:21 PM

It's all going to depend if the Giants want to resign Collins. If they don't there's not a reason why they wouldn't trade him here.

Bathea and Honey Badger seem like the most logical candidates if they want to resign Collins.

If they get Bathea might as well try to get Boston too.

Kiimo 10-03-2018 06:28 PM

I'll always remember Landon Collins from a podcast from that dumbass Scottish guy...con...cau something fahi..faway what the hell is his name?

He jizzed all over Landon Collins and said Eric Berry sucks.

O.city 10-03-2018 06:32 PM

If they’d take a 2nd, do it

POND_OF_RED 10-03-2018 06:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MTG#10 (Post 13787739)
They'll want at least a 1st. Dude's only 24 and been to two Pro Bowls.

Lol. The irony. Because Chiefs.

In58men 10-03-2018 06:40 PM

I’d take Collins over a healthy Earl Thomas any day!!!

Collins is a ****ing beast, one of my favorite players!

Kiimo 10-03-2018 06:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kiimosabi (Post 13787955)
I'll always remember Landon Collins from a podcast from that dumbass Scottish guy...con...cau something fahi..faway what the hell is his name?

He jizzed all over Landon Collins and said Eric Berry sucks.

Cian Fahey. He sucks.

JakeF 10-03-2018 06:45 PM

We should have address this shit a long time ago.

Hog's Gone Fishin 10-03-2018 06:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by New World Order (Post 13787829)
I think Veach trades for someone before the deadline

When is the trade deadline ??

In58men 10-03-2018 07:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hog's Gone Fishin (Post 13787995)
When is the trade deadline ??

Oct 30th

Kiimo 10-03-2018 07:02 PM

And then all the free agents roam the skies for 24 hours and haunt their GMs

Hog's Gone Fishin 10-03-2018 07:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by In58men (Post 13788007)
Oct 30th

Aw hell we got time.

ThaVirus 10-03-2018 07:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 13787789)
Can he be an effective Cover 1 style safety?

Because that's the only kind of safety worth shelling out big money for anymore. The rest of them are so damn fungible; they're shifting skills around in the margins. If your safeties suck (ours probably do) then it's worth spending a million or two for a credible veteran option like Tre Boston.

But once you get above a thresshold level of competence, you're getting quickly diminishing returns unless the guy is someone like Earl Thomas and can play a style of game that's uniquely well suited to this era of football.

Even a healthy Eric Berry isn't worth $13 million anymore because he's not that kind of safety. If Collins is a poor man's Berry (or even healthy Berry himself), I can't see any reason why we should give him that kind of jack.

A healthy Berry circa 2016 isn't worth $13m? You're trippin'.

htismaqe 10-03-2018 07:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by In58men (Post 13787976)
I’d take Collins over a healthy Earl Thomas any day!!!

Collins is a ****ing beast, one of my favorite players!

If anybody is still on the fence, this should help you make up your mind...

Titty Meat 10-03-2018 08:17 PM

I would take Collins over Thomas

Sofa King 10-03-2018 09:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Titty Meat (Post 13788174)
I would take Collins over Thomas

I agree. Thomas wouldn't help much right now.

Coach 10-03-2018 10:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sofa King (Post 13788322)
I agree. Thomas wouldn't help much right now.

Well yeah, considering he's on IR....

SAUTO 10-04-2018 06:49 AM

i think i've been on this for months...

i even said i'd give a first for him when earl thomas came up...

he's available

O.city 10-04-2018 08:14 AM

He's younger so I'd be ok extending him.

Naptown Chief 10-04-2018 09:02 AM

At this point, the way our D is playing, I'd bring Ryan Shazier in for a look.

carcosa 10-04-2018 10:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coach (Post 13788371)
Well yeah, considering he's on IR....

Link?

The Franchise 10-04-2018 10:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SAUTO (Post 13788581)
i think i've been on this for months...

i even said i'd give a first for him when earl thomas came up...

he's available

I’d easily give up our first for him.

carcosa 10-04-2018 10:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Pest (Post 13788907)
I’d easily give up our first for him.

Me too!

O.city 10-04-2018 10:55 AM

Nah, not giving up a first for him.

He needs a new contract that would be pretty large. No ones moving a first for that.

If I was gonna give up a first and a new contract to someone, it'd be CLowney.

carcosa 10-04-2018 11:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 13789013)
Nah, not giving up a first for him.

He needs a new contract that would be pretty large. No ones moving a first for that.

If I was gonna give up a first and a new contract to someone, it'd be CLowney.

I'd be a fan of trading for Clowney too!!!!!!

JUST MAKE A BIG MOVE VEACH!!!!!

htismaqe 10-04-2018 11:07 AM

At this point, I don't care.

Bring him in, don't bring him in, in Mahomes we trust!

arrowheadnation 10-07-2018 09:54 PM

Well....the Giants lost again. We had a couple safeties get injured. It's like the universe is pushing us together.

Rausch 10-07-2018 10:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 13789013)
Nah, not giving up a first for him.

He needs a new contract that would be pretty large. No ones moving a first for that.

If I was gonna give up a first and a new contract to someone, it'd be CLowney.

We'll have a low 1st and two 2nd round picks this draft.

Spend them all on the BPA on defense/secondary...:)

carcosa 10-07-2018 10:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arrowheadnation (Post 13798736)
Well....the Giants lost again. We had a couple safeties get injured. It's like the universe is pushing us together.

I love the universe!

htismaqe 10-07-2018 10:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 13789043)
At this point, I don't care.

Bring him in, don't bring him in, in Mahomes we trust!

Still don't care. :)

If they get him great. If not, they're ready to roll.


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