Hochevar trade coming?

So, what's the worst possible scenario?

That's incomprehensible with this organization.

Buddy Bell's head just exploded.

The Glassholes come out and say they have been losing money over the years......

worst?

uhh... we buy out both of Hoch's arbitration years at $9MM/2, with one of those mutual options DM loves for a 3rd year.

We can't be that stupid, though.

There's no chance we offer a contract at this point, right? Kinda late in the day for that, now. It seems obvious to me that DM is calling everyone in baseball to get Luke out of here.

If there's no deal, just cut him. Please.

Why would we cut him when he's just about to turn the corner and put it all together?

You forfeit your rights as a Royals fan for even jokingly typing this.

I feel like a suicide jumper who was just too pussy-foot to leave the ledge. Thank you.

that's some serious intraweb business!

7pm, that means 4 hours to go.

hoch-watch 2012!!!!

Do the right thing, Dayton. I know you love this dog, but take Old Yeller behind the shed and shoot him.

Please be talking about David Glass.

"When you consider the lucrative salaries given to all of my family members, we've been operating at a shortfall for years."

Thousands die everyday, yet...

I think it is just a sign that there will be no competition and Getz will be allowed to suck out loud with nothing to look over his shoulder at.

It sucks but I could live with that.

Sign/trade for another quality* pitcher, let Myers allow Frenchy to retire after his stellar career, hope Cain stays healthy and we only would gave one hole on the team. 2nd base.


* by quality I'm not talking about what the royals have tried to feed us the last couple years. I would be happy with the gil meche we got when we signed him.

Think of this team with meche and greinke...
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Need to clean the bottom of the table.

I am not up in arms about it, but we all know Getz sucks.

****ing Christian Stanzi.

:LOL:

Hard to believe no GM in baseball thinks he can fix Hochevar. Only takes one.

Sadly, FYP

Maybe there is one, but in a trade they'd have to pay a lot of money unless we eat salary. If we cut his ass, maybe Hoch only gets 2 offers for $1MM/1 year

He better not be a Royal later tonight..

Yeah I'm thinking no one wants to pay him whats left on his contract and anyone interested pretty much knows they can get him for less very soon. If team A is interested but on their own terms and team B steps in and makes a trade in the 11th hour then team A is like "oh well."

I shouldn't even say this, but I think he gets non-tendered.

They leaked that it was virtually certain that they wouldn't do that to increase trade interest. They're obviously shopping him for anything, but when push comes to shove, in light of salary constraints and offers to guys like Dempster, I get the idea his days in KC are done.

I hope.

I shouldn't even say this, but I think he gets non-tendered.

They leaked that it was virtually certain that they wouldn't do that to increase trade interest. They're obviously shopping him for anything, but when push comes to shove, in light of salary constraints and offers to guys like Dempster, I get the idea his days in KC are done.

I hope.

There's less than 2.5 hours left. Un-****ing-real. Why so late with no announcement, I was certain I'd be pissed and raging, or uncorking a wine I bought for the possibility of Hoch getting cut by now.

Screw it, I'm not waiting, gonna start drinking now.

Chill al. DM is working the phones trying to make a deal and he likely will until the last second. He's got someone on the line trying to work out the details.

Fine, but I'm still drinking. Wine's poured now. I expect to read that Hoch got cut or traded soon.

I wouldn't try to stop you.

:D

non tender and lets move on.

If you haven't made a prediction yet, call your shot now. Will Luke Hochevar be non-tendered, traded, or offered a contract to pitch for the Royals in 2013?

I'll make mine official. Non-tendered at the last minute after trade talks fail. I just think DM is doing everything in his power to get "anything" for him.

/crosses fingers

In order of confidence:
1. Non-tendered
2. Traded
3. Contract

non-tendered. I freaking hope.

4 year extension with an option for the following 2 years.

Non-tendered.

This.

shut your whore mouth

/obligatory

140 million.
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Non-tendered. His MLB career is as close to being over as Matt Cassel's career as a starting QB.

The Cardinals will pick him up and he'll become the superstar he was supposed to be just to **** us over.

/I've been a Royals fan too long.

No his stuff is ok, change of scenery would probably be beneficial. Just needs to be gone.

I will hold out hope that Johnny Baseball remembers how to hit when he puts on a major league uniform.

If he reached his peak, he'd still be a #3 because of the lack of an out pitch, and I've heard/seen countless bullshit claims about his breaking pitches, 2 and 3. They're both marginal at best.

Dave Duncan isn't there anymore. He would've been a perfect Dave Duncan pitcher. But someone will pick him up if he's cut. He has good stuff and his peripherals are better than his results. That's why DM is Pioli-crazy about keeping him. He doesn't want to some other team to figure him out and make DM look like an idiot.

We've reached the point where I don't care anymore. Maybe he'll have a 3.40 ERA pitching for someone else, I'm done, I want him ****ing gone.

and yes, I had the severe misfortune over the last 3 years of picking an inordinately high number of games to attend where he ended up pitching. If he has a dog, I want it gone, too.

Yes I know which is why it would **** us even more. I'm just trying to be the Charlie Brown Royals fan Zach says I am.

Rich Gale pitched like the first 4 Royals games I ever went to. That has nothing to do with anything but it popped into my head.

William Ladson ‏@washingnats

I just learned that LHP John Lannan was non-tendered by the #Nats. #MLB



Not a bad pitcher

C'mon DM, non-tender Hoch. All the cool GM's are doin' it. You aren't square, are you?

Maybe he's just negotiating which Rookie League Bullpen Coach the Rangers are giving us?

Glass: Dayton, have you decided on what to do with Hochevar?

DM: No sir, I'm trying to call other teams, but none of them are interested. All of them keep saying that he's not worth anything more than an age 50+ hooker. I have no idea what they mean......

Glass: Well, you gotta make a decision within the next hour or so. Do you still think he has the talent?

DM: I absolutely do! He's a #1 pick for a reason! I just don't understand why teams won't offer. It's not like he's been all that bad, and he has potential!

Glass: Well, I don't know nothing about baseball, so it's all in your hands. Just don't blow too much of my money if you offer a contract.

DM: Don't worry, sir, I'll make sure Hochevar's potential isn't wasted, whether it's here or somewhere else!

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:facepalm:

Could anyone else actually imagine this conversation?

I really didn't think we'd still be on the edge of our seat with 1 hour left to go.

I really did. Just sayin.

Hoch Watch 2012!!!!

1 hour to go!!!!

place your bets, bitches!!!!

A trade is not going to happen.

We'll non-tender his useless ass. I hope.

Wow, this is what we've been reduced to...waiting to the last hour for the decision on a tender.

a cableboy can wish, can't he????????

DRAMA!

I know it but would you ever believe people would be this interested in the royals at this in football season?

In all seriousness I really believe something is being worked on with another team for a trade. If all trade possibilitys were dead we'd have either a non tender or a contract. Will a trade happen? Probably not but you use the time you have to try everything. I'm "sure" the decision was made long before now to non tender him if a trade deal can't be made. But until the time has passed you try. Something has to be going on or we'd have known by now.

JMO.

"DM cannot be this stupid." /since '06

A number of us would be, yes.

:)

Behold, the pitching performance of Luke Hochevar, behold, and weep!

2008: 5.51 ERA, 1.473 WHIP, 0.8 HR/9, 3.3 BB/9, 5 K/9, 0.3 WAR
2009: 6.55 ERA, 1.490 WHIP, 1.4 HR/9, 2.9 BB/9, 6.7 K/9, -0.7 WAR
2010: 4.81 ERA, 1.427 WHIP, 0.8 HR/9, 3.2 BB/9, 6.6 K/9, 0.9 WAR (woohoo, high point!)
2011: 4.68 ERA, 1.283 WHIP, 1.0 HR/9, 2.8 BB/9, 5.8 K/9, 0.6 WAR
2012: 5.73 ERA, 1.419 WHIP, 1.3 HR/9, 3.0 BB/9, 7.0 K/9, -1.7WAR (holy God, you suck)

A veritable river of endless suck, bested only by the player whose name is eternally damned: Yuniesky Betancourt.

"He has good stuff."

50 minutes left.

For ****'s sake, how hard is it to cut this pitcher?

:D

I swear to God, if he pitches in 2013, I will flip shit.

Game of chicken. Other teams think DM's bluffing about not cutting him. DM might as well wait till the digital red timer reads 0:00 before letting the ax fall, just in case someone calls at the last minute and says, "OK, a bag of Skittles for Hochevar."

He hasn't developed yet, give him time!

OUR TIME

He's just tipping his pitches.

Honestly, I think you are right and that DM is not this stupid, but still: no news with less than an hour left, with this team, this close, in a division this terrible and this easily winnable, makes me nervous. The AL Central sucks ass, we can win this division. Maybe. But if we sign Luke and if he pitches significant innings, we're dead.

I'll take a half-eaten Ho-Ho

"Freaking out again for nothing." /tk at 11:05

And he'll forever be known as Ho-Ho-Hochevar.

Right there with ya I'm just not stressing about it. If DM is so dumb as to keep him and prove me wrong then I'll shake my head and go on.

I bet we won't know what happened until sometime around 11:30-midnight. If this ends up being a deadline thing, it'll take a while for news to leak out.