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RealSNR 03-10-2013 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by B14ckmon (Post 9483552)
And it has been a lot of years.

What's different from 2014 that was any different from what people said about the 2009 class in 2008?

"Stick with Croyle. Get a QB in next year's draft when there will be far better guys to choose from. Matt Ryan sucks. Joe Flacco? Psssh. You want Matt Stafford, Sam Bradford, and Tim Tebow. THAT'S the real QB class!"

And what do you know? It turns out 2008 WAS the better QB class, actually.

That's why this draft maxim is goddamn near ****ing infallible: If you don't have a franchise QB, and there is a guy available to you at your pick, you take him each and every ****ing time no matter the circumstances.

Hootie 03-10-2013 05:09 PM

I think the only shot we'd have at Geno is if we trade down to around #12 somehow and then he falls to us at #12 and Reid takes him...

and everyone is going to be all like

'omg if we take him at 12 why didn't we take him at 1'

well maybe Reid isn't in love with Geno...and has no issue with trading an asset to acquire more assets and then once he's sitting there at 12 maybe he thinks Geno is a good pick there because he added a few extra picks

but this idea people are holding on to that we may take Geno at 1 is ridiculous...it isn't going to happen. I wish there was a QB at #1 we knew we were going to take so this site wouldn't be so god damn depressing but that shipped sailed as soon as we traded for Alex Average.

Fat Elvis 03-10-2013 11:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Peyton's Princess (Post 9483582)
I think the only shot we'd have at Geno is if we trade down to around #12 somehow and then he falls to us at #12 and Reid takes him...

and everyone is going to be all like

'omg if we take him at 12 why didn't we take him at 1'

well maybe Reid isn't in love with Geno...and has no issue with trading an asset to acquire more assets and then once he's sitting there at 12 maybe he thinks Geno is a good pick there because he added a few extra picks

but this idea people are holding on to that we may take Geno at 1 is ridiculous...it isn't going to happen. I wish there was a QB at #1 we knew we were going to take so this site wouldn't be so god damn depressing but that shipped sailed as soon as we traded for Alex Average.

Geno isn't going to be there at 12; if we don't take him at 1, the Raiders will take him at 3 if someone doesn't jump in front of them at 2. If you are the Chiefs, either take him at 1 or you have no shot at him.

BossChief 03-10-2013 11:15 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 9483450)
I don't think that Reid will stick with Smith if he struggles.

I do, however, expect that he will stick with him if the Chiefs are winng games and making playoff appearences, which I expect he will be good enough to do.

Alex Smith is not a terrible QB.

He's just good enough to keep you competing for playoff bounce parties.

I agree, but two things are working against him.

1) when he throws 35 passes in a game, he only as 2 career wins. Between Foles and Vick, the Eagles averaged 38.5 pass attempts per game.

2) he only has 20 completions of more than 20 yards over the last 2 seasons combined. Defenses will cut the field up and Alex holds the ball as bad as Cassel.

BossChief 03-10-2013 11:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Peyton's Princess (Post 9483582)
I think the only shot we'd have at Geno is if we trade down to around #12 somehow and then he falls to us at #12 and Reid takes him...

and everyone is going to be all like

'omg if we take him at 12 why didn't we take him at 1'

well maybe Reid isn't in love with Geno...and has no issue with trading an asset to acquire more assets and then once he's sitting there at 12 maybe he thinks Geno is a good pick there because he added a few extra picks

but this idea people are holding on to that we may take Geno at 1 is ridiculous...it isn't going to happen. I wish there was a QB at #1 we knew we were going to take so this site wouldn't be so god damn depressing but that shipped sailed as soon as we traded for Alex Average.

If they pass on Geno at 1, they are making a statement to the other teams that they aren't worried about Geno ending up in Oakland.

They better be sure.

Sorter 03-10-2013 11:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat Elvis (Post 9484290)
Geno isn't going to be there at 12; if we don't take him at 1, the Raiders will take him at 3 if someone doesn't jump in front of them at 2. If you are the Chiefs, either take him at 1 or you have no shot at him.

Yup. Barkley probably wouldn't be there at 12.

****, if the Browns are worried about Glennon and the Bills are concerned about Nassib, you could get seriously ****ed over.

RunKC 03-10-2013 11:43 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 9484303)

I agree, but two things are working against him.

1) when he throws 35 passes in a game, he only as 2 career wins. Between Foles and Vick, the Eagles averaged 38.5 pass attempts per game.

2) he only has 20 completions of more than 20 yards over the last 2 seasons combined. Defenses will cut the field up and Alex holds the ball as bad as Cassel.

I think the 35 passes a game is overblown considering how well he did when he threw the ball 30 times a game.

I think Reid is going to use him in a completely different way. Harbaugh was very conservative while Reid is going to make a bunch of attack based plays in the short and intermediate passing game.

BossChief 03-10-2013 11:47 PM

Ill say the same as i did for the Cassel trade...I hope it works out because I'd love to be able to enjoy football again.

The last few years the best weeks are when KC didn't play.

B14ckmon 03-10-2013 11:59 PM

Jags will just have to bite the bullet and draft him. No one with the organization was here when Gabbert was drafted.

Rasputin 03-11-2013 12:06 AM

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 9483450)
I don't think that Reid will stick with Smith if he struggles.

I do, however, expect that he will stick with him if the Chiefs are winng games and making playoff appearences, which I expect he will be good enough to do.

Alex Smith is not a terrible QB.

He's just good enough to keep you competing for playoff bounce parties.

Pretend Alex Smith does a good job, he is still injury prone as hell and how many seasons is he going give us? I don't expect him being our QB start of the season 2015 for two reasons, injuries and just not being what Andy Reid is expecting him to be & that is a passing QB.

Alex Smith much like Matt Cassell can hand off all day long to Jamaal Charles but if expect him to put drives together with his arm is another story.

Sweet Daddy Hate 03-11-2013 08:13 AM

What a debacle. Only the Thiefs...
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B14ckmon 03-11-2013 01:51 PM

I wonder if the Eagles are trying to make trade bait with Geno in case the Jags take Jordan and then they want to move down.

Sweet Daddy Hate 03-11-2013 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by B14ckmon (Post 9485635)
I wonder if the Eagles are trying to make trade bait with Geno in case the Jags take Jordan and then they want to move down.

At this point, I'm guessing Philly or Buffalo get the penii.
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B14ckmon 03-11-2013 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Sweet Dick Willie (Post 9486356)
At this point, I'm guessing Philly or Buffalo get the penii.
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Makes me ****ing furious. They are both pieces of shit.

Mav 03-11-2013 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 9483533)
Again, no matter what else. Coaching, team around them, etc...

Brady and Rodgers do not have the limitations of being mediocre.
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you have zero proof of that. All Great qbs have stability around them.

Case and point. When the mark brothers left marino, he no longer won games. When they stopped trying to upgrade the talent he stopped being anything but a first round knock out in the playoffs.

The patriots every single year upgrade on the offense. Gronk, hernandez, welker, brandon lloyd, julian edelman.

The packers, even though they had greg jennings, donald driver, james jones, yet, they still drafted randall cobb.

They didnt do that on either side of the ball for the 49ers. They signed cast offs like nate clements, antonio bryant, ashley lelie.

So for you to say that aaron rodgers, and tom brady could survive in those conditions because they are superior, thats your opinion. A simple myopic opinion. Which is perfectly understandable. You are simple, and myopic.


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