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O.city 01-11-2019 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 14024171)
Why? Wilks ****ing cratered the Arizona defense. Chiefs gave up 132 rushing yards per game and 19 TDs. Cardinals gave up 154 rushing yards per game and 25 TDs. The year prior they gave up 89 rushing yards per game and 12 TDs. Wilks changed them from a 3-4 to 4-3. Do not want him anywhere near this team if he is going to be doing shit like that.

Everyone wants the chiefs to change schemes.

I don’t really fault Wilks for the hc year. He’s just not a head coach

He’s been a good dc

staylor26 01-11-2019 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 14024165)
The job of the head coach is to manage a team. It isn't to call plays. There's a reason toub is often in hc conversations. He can hire a good qbs coach or oc. Could easily be claimed that an experienced RBs coach knows a ton about blocking schemes and would put together a tough minded team. If you're Seattle, Dallas, Baltimore, etc... Why wouldn't that be a great hire?

I honestly have no idea if/what you’re trying to dispute here.

I clearly said I’m not saying that’s the only way to go, just simply pointing out the trend.

Sassy Squatch 01-11-2019 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 14024172)
Didn’t bienemy also have some sexual assault issues years ago?

That could be a sticking point

No. More of being a goddamn fool while driving and some Colorado players being accused of rape while he was the head coach.

Hoopsdoc 01-11-2019 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by tk13 (Post 14023803)
In related news, the Vikings have decided to fire their coach and have hired Sean McVay's barber as head coach.

I thought for sure Mcvays Uber driver had it locked up.

O.city 01-11-2019 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 14024180)
No. More of being a goddamn fool while driving and some Colorado players being accused of rape while he was the head coach.

I just heard it brought up on a podcast. Hadn’t really heard much of it elsewhere

Sassy Squatch 01-11-2019 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 14024175)
Everyone wants the chiefs to change schemes.

I don’t really fault Wilks for the hc year. He’s just not a head coach

He’s been a good dc

Agree to disagree. If he's dumb enough to crater his defense to the point they're allowing damn near double in both yards and TDs against the run, he shouldn't be coming here. That's the absolute last thing we need.

chiefzilla1501 01-11-2019 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 14024156)
Everybody wants a young offensive coach that can develop a young QB. That’s why those guys got their jobs, to develop QB’s. I’m not saying it’s smart or stupid, I’m simply pointing out what I thought was an obvious trend and providing a reasonable explanation why Bieniemy didn’t get a job just yet.

I mean the Bengals picked a QB coach over him. Is it not ****ing obvious they are following this trend?

I think it's a copycat league. That's for sure. The front office fired a head coach, so there's not exactly a vote of confidence they can be trusted to hire a good replacement. I'm glad the Chiefs have an offense guru. But if the Bengals don't draft an elite qb and if Rosen and darnold don't become elite qbs, I wonder how many will be back to the drawing board 3 years from now. Qbs coaches may be hot right now. But I wonder if that's become too watered down of late.

Sassy Squatch 01-11-2019 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 14024185)
I just heard it brought up on a podcast. Hadn’t really heard much of it elsewhere

I'd never heard of it either so I looked it up. This was the first result.

https://www.cincyjungle.com/2019/1/6...joseph-broncos

Man, Bieniemy had some rough younger years LMAO

Hoover 01-11-2019 09:29 AM

The best thing that could happen to Bieniemy is for him to have another year running this offense. There are 5-8 coaching changes a year, I don't have any doubt he will get his shot. And while it is life changing money, if it were me, I'd want to be prepared when I got my shot.

One of the most impressive things I noticed with Reid when the Chiefs hired him, was how large his staff was, and that he brought in an entire crew, from the field and turf guys to the equipment managers. Reid is also always hiring these off the radar guys who over years he turns into coaches. Guys like Mike Kafka, Deland McCullough, David Girardi, and Joe Bleymaier. Reid has a system in place as far as offensive coaches are concerned.

chiefzilla1501 01-11-2019 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 14024172)
Didn’t bienemy also have some sexual assault issues years ago?

That could be a sticking point

I also wonder if that was an issue. I saw that swirling on Twitter when he was being considered.

chiefzilla1501 01-11-2019 09:33 AM

Although I'm glad we keep bieniemy I was still kind of holding out hope we could Backfill him with Kafka who I think would do fine. And then put in a very experienced qb handler like van pelt at qbs coach.

staylor26 01-11-2019 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 14024188)
I think it's a copycat league. That's for sure. The front office fired a head coach, so there's not exactly a vote of confidence they can be trusted to hire a good replacement. I'm glad the Chiefs have an offense guru. But if the Bengals don't draft an elite qb and if Rosen and darnold don't become elite qbs, I wonder how many will be back to the drawing board 3 years from now. Qbs coaches may be hot right now. But I wonder if that's become too watered down of late.

The fact that it’s a trend and teams are having success doing it is only making things worse.

For one, you have all these highly paid QB’s missing out on the playoffs, so teams want to try and win with talented young QB’s on rookie deals. It’s the best way to do it in today’s NFL.

Then, if you have a defensive minded HC and your QB developer is an OC or QB coach, you have to worry about losing them every single year. It makes more sense for your HC to be that guy, so that’s why I get it. It’s easier to find DC’s year to year.

O.city 01-11-2019 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 14024187)
Agree to disagree. If he's dumb enough to crater his defense to the point they're allowing damn near double in both yards and TDs against the run, he shouldn't be coming here. That's the absolute last thing we need.

I’m not sure if that was actually his decision to change all that up though.

HemiEd 01-11-2019 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 14024190)
Man, Bieniemy had some rough younger years LMAO

I didn't see anything there that was out of the ordinary. :shrug:

Few speeding tickets and players having issues when he was a coach.

Titty Meat 01-11-2019 09:52 AM

Yeah I would have hired Taylor over him too


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