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Sannyasi 10-10-2018 09:18 PM

I don't think this is even an argument. Priest was great behind that O-line, Charles was great period.

ILChief 10-10-2018 09:18 PM

Maybe I'm partial to Priest because I associate him with a fun time (Vermeil years) vs Charles who I associate with the awful Cassel/Pioli era

'Hamas' Jenkins 10-10-2018 09:21 PM

Best seasons:

Priest (2002): 313 carries, 1615 yards (5.2 YPC). 21 TDs; 70 rec, 672 yards, 3 TDs
Jamaal (2012): 285 carries, 1509 yards (5.3 YPC). 5 TDs; 35 rec, 236 yards, 1 TD

Priest did that in 14 games, and if not for that dirty-ass horsecollar tackle, he likely sets records for all-purpose yards that are never touched. He was a patient, tireless runner, a tremendous receiver, and great at blitz pick up. I've never seen a back with better vision, and he was near GOAT status at the goal line.

Jamaal clearly had the home run ability that Holmes lacked, but 2002 Priest Holmes was the most complete back the Chiefs ever had.

DaNewGuy 10-10-2018 09:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Simply Red (Post 13806355)
Something needs to be said about Priest's patience - that's a huge bonus - JC was slightly more prone to coughing up the rock. Plus to me - Priest was funner to watch. JMO

That avatar is a thing of beauty, love you Red :clap:

DaNewGuy 10-10-2018 09:24 PM

Love JC top 3 Chief in my list, Priest was just so great and I have fond memories of the priest/green/vermeil era as I was a youngster just discoverig my love of Football at the time

dlphg9 10-10-2018 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by ILChief (Post 13806336)
Strictly running, Charles was better. Priest was much more of a weapon as a receiver, but he had a more competent QB. Also Charles seemed to fumble quite a bit more. It's a tough call. Although in a two year stretch, LJ may be better than both

Charles receiving stats

308 receptions, 2586 yards, 20 tds, 8.4 ypc

Priest receiving stats

339 receptions, 2962 yards, 8 tds, 8.7 ypc

I'd say Jamaal was the better receiver if you account for who was throwing them the ball.

I'd say LJ had one single season that was elite. It was his 2005 season where he started only 9 games and had 1750 yards and 20 tds and averaged 5.2 ypc. You could say it was one of the top 10 best seasons for a running back in the history of the league. But what's crazy is that 2005 LJ season wasn't even the best season a Chiefs RB has had. Priest in 2002 only played in 14 games and in those 14 games he had 1615 rush yards, 21 tds, 5.2 ypc and on top of that he had 62 rec, 614 rcv yds, 9.9 ypc and 3 tds. So essentially in 2002 Priest gave you the production of an elite RB and a 2 receiver. Then we get to Jamaal who had 6.4 ypc and he ran the ball 230 times that year. It's just amazing the talent we have had at the RB position.

I remember back in day when you'd constantly have to hear about the stupid ass Donkey's, there dumbass blocking scheme and how they have had so many years of a 1000 yd rusher, so basically 60 yds a game, BFD. The Chiefs have had elite RBs since 2001. I can't remember the last time I was worried about our RB situation.

bobbything 10-10-2018 10:07 PM

JC did more with less. That said, Priest was the more complete back. I dunno. Gun to my balls, I’d say JC.

Or maybe Priest. I don’t know. Kill my balls.

htismaqe 10-10-2018 10:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 13806370)
Best seasons:

Priest (2002): 313 carries, 1615 yards (5.2 YPC). 21 TDs; 70 rec, 672 yards, 3 TDs
Jamaal (2012): 285 carries, 1509 yards (5.3 YPC). 5 TDs; 35 rec, 236 yards, 1 TD

Priest did that in 14 games, and if not for that dirty-ass horsecollar tackle, he likely sets records for all-purpose yards that are never touched. He was a patient, tireless runner, a tremendous receiver, and great at blitz pick up. I've never seen a back with better vision, and he was near GOAT status at the goal line.

Jamaal clearly had the home run ability that Holmes lacked, but 2002 Priest Holmes was the most complete back the Chiefs ever had.

:clap:

DTVietnam 10-10-2018 10:12 PM

Priest

TimBone 10-10-2018 10:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buehler445 (Post 13806321)
I've said it before and took massive heat for it, but if you put JC on that O, it is disgusting.

I agree with you. I think the biggest opposition to this take was Dane. I loved most of his football opinions, but that's one I definitely disagree with.

JC was the superior talent.

CoMoChief 10-10-2018 10:17 PM

Put JC behind Priest's OL, then answer the question who's better.

The end.

oldman 10-10-2018 10:20 PM

I'm going to have to go with JC, but that sweep with Priest behind Will and Willie was just a thing of beauty.

Rain Man 10-10-2018 10:28 PM

Jamaal had amazing talent. However, I don't think he would have thrived more behind Priest's line, or at least not notably more. Jamaal hit the line fast, and that Priest line was more of a chess game that moved defenders out of the way. Priest was the perfect running back for that line, because he let them do their work in the most effective way possible.

Priest was great, but you can't vote against Jamaal on this.

beach tribe 10-10-2018 10:37 PM

Jamaal would have broken every single season record in the book behind that line and i loves me some Holmes.

beach tribe 10-10-2018 10:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 13806527)
Jamaal had amazing talent. However, I don't think he would have thrived more behind Priest's line, or at least not notably more. Jamaal hit the line fast, and that Priest line was more of a chess game that moved defenders out of the way. Priest was the perfect running back for that line, because he let them do their work in the most effective way possible.

Priest was great, but you can't vote against Jamaal on this.

While i agres, Charles' vision and speed would have offset any advantage Priest had


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