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Frankie 04-06-2009 11:42 AM

Larry Johnson loses Grievance
 
Per profootballtalk.com

http://www.profootballtalk.com/2009/...teed-salaries/

Larry Johnson Loses Grievance On Future Guaranteed Salaries
Posted by Mike Florio on April 6, 2009, 1:11 p.m. EDT

The good news for NFL players coming out of last week’s combined Plaxico Burress/Larry Johnson grievance is that the forfeiture of signing bonus money has been significantly limited.

The bad news for NFL players is that Special Master Richard Burbank upheld player contract language invalidating future guaranteed base salaries.

Per a league source, Johnson’s grievance failed as to the question of whether the Chiefs are permitted to erase $3.5 million in guaranteed base salary due in 2009 and $250,000 in guaranteed base salary due in 2010 based on Johnson’s one-game suspension in 2008 for violation of the personal conduct policy.

With the future guaranteed payments now off the books, the Chiefs are expected to cut or trade Johnson.

Meanwhile, we’re told that Johnson’s grievance prevailed as to the partial forfeiture of his signing bonus allocation applicable to 2008, for the same reasons that the Burress grievance prevailed on that point — according to Burbank, suspensions don’t trigger a forfeiture of signing bonus money.


(Sorry if repost.)

bishop_74 04-06-2009 11:42 AM

L.J.’s Grievance Decision In
 
LINK

April 6, 2009 - Bob Gretz |

Special Master Richard Burbank released his decison Monday on the grievance filed against the Chiefs by the NFL Players Association involving guaranteed money in Larry Johnson’s contract.

Burbank ruled in favor of the Chiefs who removed the guarantee on base salary money for the 2009 and 2010 seasons after Johnson was suspended for one game by NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell. The contract contained specific language that would remove that guarantee. One part of the clause was forfeiture of guaranteed money with an NFL suspension. It does not mean Johnson can’t earn the money by making the team, but it’s no longer a guaranteed payment.

But Burbank did have something in his ruling for Johnson on his signing bonus. At the time of his suspension, L.J. forfeited a pro-rata portion of his signing bonus for missing that game. The Special Master ruled that money could not be taken by the Chiefs.

The question now is just what the Chiefs plans are for Johnson. There have been published reports that if the Chiefs prevailed in the grievance they would release the running back. That’s not necessarily the next logical step, however. Releasing him now wouldn’t accomplish anything but get him out of the building. If that’s what the Chiefs want, then he should be released by sundown. If not, then there is no reason to make a move at this time.

Johnson can also expect further sanction from the Commissioner on the two charges where he pled guilty last month. Goodell said he would revisit the issue after the cases were completed

crazycoffey 04-06-2009 11:43 AM

check it out on snopes first, damnit!!!!

the Talking Can 04-06-2009 11:45 AM

awesome

take that quitter's money

Frankie 04-06-2009 11:45 AM

Any improvement in trade value?

RustShack 04-06-2009 11:45 AM

Burress won his. I still hope we keep LJ, I know this increases the chances of us getting rid of him too...

Skip Towne 04-06-2009 11:49 AM

There is a load of hay leaving town at noon. Be on it.

SBK 04-06-2009 11:49 AM

We should be able to trade him for 6-7 #1 picks I'm sure.

Chiefaholic 04-06-2009 11:55 AM

If the Chiefs can land a high 3rd or better, trade him to the highest bidder outside the AFC West. If teams attempt to low ball us, keep him till an equal replacement is found.

CoMoChief 04-06-2009 11:58 AM

If we can get a 3rd or better for him take it. I could give a shit if he stays in the AFCW or not.

Coogs 04-06-2009 11:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frankie (Post 5644563)
Any improvement in trade value?

Probably not. Signing bonus would have been on the Chiefs, and not the team who he would be traded to.

Crush 04-06-2009 12:00 PM

He has one hour to get the hell out of town.

Coogs 04-06-2009 12:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CoMoChief (Post 5644593)
I could give a shit if he stays in the AFCW or not.

Me neither. If we have any kind of interior defense at all, we know it would be 2nd and 8 and then 3rd and 6 if they run on the first two downs.

chiefs1111 04-06-2009 12:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CoMoChief (Post 5644593)
If we can get a 3rd or better for him take it. I could give a shit if he stays in the AFCW or not.

Nobody is going to give us a 3rd or higher for LJ. We would likely get a 4th rounder at best and even the chances of that are slim,we would probably have to settle for a 5th...

kcxiv 04-06-2009 12:06 PM

Thats what he gets. I dont hate him or anything. I stillt hink he can play at a fairly high level, but he made his own bed.


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