A whole lot of this. Yes

that, and the Chiefs lose at home more often than not...

Every game I've been to in the last 8 years they've lost. I 'think' all of them have been December games. Or, at a minimum, they've been balls cold.

it would be one thing if the Chiefs were dominant at home etc, but they are completely unpredictable in which Chiefs team will show up.

So, my cold game days are over.

I couldn't agree more. It was pretty clear for this game that a lot of people feel that way. No way could I have handled that weather yesterday for the entire game.

But, but we are tough, and we don't need no freeking dome!/ 20,000 diehards

yesterday, I sat and watched the Denver/Houston on a 32 inch TV, had the Red Zone on a 37 and the chief's game on a 42 all in HD...

Plus it was 70 degrees and the beer/restroom was just a few feet away...

Hard to give that up to sit in 20 degree temps with Ice...

that too.

One reason, IMO, the 90's were a huge home field advantage was that it was really the only entertainment in town. I remember working at the Mall, and on Sundays during football season, the owner of the sandwich shop that I worked at would literally scheduling his staffing around Chiefs games because the entire town seemed to shut down.

Now with HD, very affordable big ass TVs, Sunday Ticket, home theaters etc.....there really isn't any incentive to see a game at the stadium for most fans.

the Arrowhead mystique has been dead probably since 2004.

It's better to be warm and miserable than cold and miserable. :)

the Ramsification of the Chiefs continues

The idea of a dome or retractable roof has been considered for Arrowhead several times in the past - when initial construction was being planned, again in 1984, then more recently in 2007 when the prospect of hosting a 2015 Super Bowl was dangled by the NFL. I remember in the beginning, there was even an artist's rendering of the roof on the front of the Kansas City telephone book. Alas, the engineering was too complicated as the roof as to cover a side-by-side Arrowhead and Royals stadium.

In the case of the Hunts, though, it's really not quite correct that this is classic case of a greedy owner shaking down taxpayers. The Hunts have been significant contributors both in the initial construction and the recent renovations.

One thing I don't understand, is why the burden always falls on Jackson County alone? As a public improvement, Truman Sports Complex obviously benefits the whole metropolitan area so why don't all the jurisdictions step up? Including the Kansas counties.

Lets see they just renovated Arrowhead and the Dome/retractable roof was part of the original plan but was not approved by the taxpayers. So the answer is still NO. Just like it was a few years ago.

No.

Deberg you have been on a roll lately. That roll is of course shitty stupid ass threads man. Worst thread of the year just barely over the 2cd placed worst thread of the year that is also yours.

Ahh yes This.

Arrowhead was supposed to have a "rolling roof" when Jackson County taxpayers agreed to build the Sports Complex in the late 1960's. It was a big selling point that helped carry the original vote. Construction strikes and cost over runs made them whack the roof. Then when the renovation talks came around, the politicos actually put two different measures on the Jackson County ballot. One was for the renovation of Arrowhead and Kauffman Stadium, which passed, and the second measure was to build a roof over Arrowhead, which failed.

I voted for the renovation and against the roof. On the roof, I wanted the Chiefs to have a natural winter advantage over the Raiders and Chargers. Making California teams play in cold weather is usually an advantage. Secondly, if the Chiefs wanted a roof that badly, the Hunt family has the money to pay for it themselves. The money the Hunts put into the renovation all went to luxury suites and rich **** amenities. Didn't affect the average joe fan at all.

It's called a dominating defense. We need one.

:clap:

but I am still staying home. F the cold weather...