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Direckshun 04-05-2012 09:31 PM

Late night bullshit: places I think the Chiefs must go in the draft.
 
Just thinking out loud here, humor me.

KC has eight picks in the draft.

3 high rounders (tier 1)
2 midrounders (tier 2)
3 low-rounders (tier 3)

I think this team's worst need is two-fold: nose tackle and secondary depth.

This season, the Chiefs will face an incumbent Carson Palmer twice, Philip Rivers twice, Peyton Manning twice, Matt Ryan, two overall #1 picks of the past two years in Cam Newton and Andrew Luck, Ben Rothlessberger and Drew Brees. That is a brutal line of quarterbacks.

Which of course means two things: we could be facing these QBs for months with Travis Daniels as a starting corner if either Routt or Flowers go down (Arenas is pretty much a pure nickel corner). Not to mention our precarious safety situation, in which we only have Berry and Lewis, only two players with any reliability. I'd like much more talent here.

The Chiefs of course need to find themselves a nose. They need to find themselves depth across the front seven, particularly at OLB and DE.

And the Chiefs need depth along the offensive line, which right now stands only at David Mims and Darryl Harris.

So following my own arbitrarily restrictive guidelines, how might I arrange this draft?

The one indispensible one, I'd think, would be the nose, which would almost have to be selected in the first three rounds. DE is a tough position to invest in, so I think that'd have to be a high round pick, too.

Offensive line depth should require something like two picks, maybe some tackle depth in the midrounds and some interior OL depth in the late rounds.

So that commits our three tiers to something like this:

Tier 1 (3 picks): NT, DE, ???
Tier 2 (2 picks): OT, ???
Tier 3 (3 picks): OG, ???, ???

I know this is all based purely on need, which is not how you draft. But I'm just playing with an exercise here.

That means you have a pick still free in the first tier, one in the second tier, and two in the third tier.

Here's the thing, I think we should have one secondary selection in all three tiers.

I know that only leaves one spot open for passrusher, and it's in the third tier, but there are some pretty interesting developmental guys in the lowrounds this year as passrushers, and we've already got 5 passrushers under contract.

Just thinking out loud here.

1. DE Michael Brockers, LSU
2. NT Alameda Ta'amu, Washington
3. S Brandon Taylor, LSU
4. CB Brandon Boykin, Georgia
5. OT Brandon Mosley, Auburn
6. S Winston Guy, Jr., Kentucky
7. OLB Kyle Wilbur, Wake Forest
7. OG Austen Pasztor, Virginia

The team:

QB: Cassel, Quinn, Stanzi
RB: Charles, Hillis, McCluster
FB: Bannon

WR: Bowe, Breaston, Baldwin, Copper, McCluster
TE: Moeaki, Boss, Maneri

LT: Albert, Mosley
LG: Lilja, Harris
C: Hudson, Harris
RG: Asamoah, Pasztor
RT: Winston, Mosley

DE: Dorsey, Bailey
NT: Ta'amu, Gordon, Powe
DE: Jackson, Brockers, Gordon

OLB: Hali, Sheffield
ILB: Belcher, Siler
ILB: Johnson, Siler
OLB: Houston, Studebaker, Wilbur

CB: Flowers, Routt, Arenas, Daniels, Brown, Boykin
S: Berry, Lewis, Taylor, Guy

Saul Good 04-05-2012 09:35 PM

1 starter

Direckshun 04-05-2012 09:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Saul Good (Post 8520869)
1 starter

In 2012. Sure.

But in 2013, you've got two with Brockers.

You've also got Taylor on the field roughly half of the snaps in subpackages, and potentially supplanting Lewis. And Boykin has starter potential down the road.

Two surefire starters and some starting upside on a team this talented... is doing well.

KCrockaholic 04-05-2012 10:00 PM

I'd like the Boykin pick. He's versatile.

ILChief 04-05-2012 10:04 PM

No to Brockers. WTF

Saul Good 04-05-2012 10:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 8520871)
In 2012. Sure.

But in 2013, you've got two with Brockers.

You've also got Taylor on the field roughly half of the snaps in subpackages, and potentially supplanting Lewis. And Boykin has starter potential down the road.

Two surefire starters and some starting upside on a team this talented... is doing well.

When you finish in last place and have the 11th pick in the draft and wind up with only a single year one starter and no QBOTF, you've had a bad draft.

There simply is no such thing as a last place team with no QB that is so talented that you shouldn't be able to draft more than 1 player who even projects to be a year one starter unless you grab a QB in the first round.

BigMeatballDave 04-05-2012 10:36 PM

ANOTHER DT from LSU in the 1st?

Seriously?

RealSNR 04-05-2012 10:39 PM

Brockers is good, but he's a bit overkill for that position in my opinion. I will be disappointed if we draft him without trading down. I'd prefer just to pass on him altogether since he's not likely to make it past the first half of this draft.

A guy like Jared Crick with our 3rd rounder would be ideal. Extremely versatile line player who can push Dorsey and/or Jackson, which is really what we need. He's got a very high floor with the potential to start in the NFL for 10+ years.

Look at JJ Watt for the Texans and tell me that's not just what this Chiefs defensive line needs. Crick is totally that player.

durtyrute 04-05-2012 10:41 PM

Some people on here rate Ta'amu as the number one nose tackle in the draft. How does the number one nose tackle make it to our second rounder?

RealSNR 04-05-2012 10:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by durtyrute (Post 8520978)
Some people on here rate Ta'amu as the number one nose tackle in the draft. How does the number one nose tackle make it to our second rounder?

Ta'amu is exactly what the Chiefs need out of the NT position, but he's very unsexy. He's slow as molasses and a bit late off the snap. But he's a fat hunk of shit who was proven to be immovable against the double team in college. On rush downs he's Vince Wilfork.

On pass downs... I really have no idea. Not Vince Wilfork, I can tell you that much. The tools are there, but I didn't see them on the college tape.

If one guy can make him into the player we need, it's Romeo.

BossChief 04-05-2012 10:56 PM

Id much rather move those top two picks for Tannehill than go in that direction.

Give me Tannehill and Chapman out of our top 3 picks and Id be a happy man.

RealSNR 04-05-2012 11:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 8520996)
Id much rather move those top two picks for Tannehill than go in that direction.

Give me Tannehill and Chapman out of our top 3 picks and Id be a happy man.

Do you think Chapman's frame can put on at least 15 extra pounds and still be just as explosive and athletic as he is now?

BossChief 04-05-2012 11:21 PM

I think Chapman is a young version of Kelly Gregg and doesnt really need to add much weight (if any) to be effective in his 2 down role for us.

Kelly Gregg is 6' 310...Chapman is 6'1 320...I think he is fine.

Also remember that he played the whole year with a torn acl.

Once that is healed fully, he will have lots more explosion and his ability to anchor while moving laterally should also be improved. Which is scary.

Gordon, Powe and Chapman would be one hell of a nice NT rotation.

kcxiv 04-06-2012 12:32 AM

yeah, no more DE's in the first round for a few years. lol

Titty Meat 04-06-2012 01:12 AM

Will Chapman even be ready for this season?


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