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Otter 07-19-2018 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Pablo (Post 13635862)
Do they not play the game anymore if a player protests? This a new thing for 2018?

Sure do.</br></br>And their employer, the NFL, who asked them to stop protesting pays them handsomely to play.</br></br>I'm not going to play ring around the rosie on this subject again. Find a new employer if you don't like the rules of the guy who signs your paycheck.

petegz28 07-19-2018 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by displacedinMN (Post 13635040)
Talking about it on the radio today. Michelle Tafoya is on KQRS Minneapolis in the mornings.

The other host Tom Barnard said "What if the network just does not show the anthem or any of the protests?"

She said "We have to document what we see. If someone is doing this-we show it. We have to."

It will be posted on KQRS soon. Started talking about it about 8:35 am.

It sounds like Tafoya is tired of the whole thing too.

No, they don't HAVE TO.....what a dumb thing for her to say

ThaVirus 07-19-2018 05:33 PM

As long as tens of millions of pussies are getting hurt over this issue, they'll keep reporting it.

You made this bed, snowflakes. Now lie in it.

Rain Man 07-19-2018 05:36 PM

Maybe while he's kneeling, he can read a grammar book.

WhawhaWhat 07-19-2018 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Otter (Post 13635866)
Find a new employer if you don't like the rules of the guy who signs your paycheck.

Those rules have to be collectively bargained and this rule was not.

Chief Roundup 07-19-2018 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy (Post 13635849)
Looks like the Fins are laying the smack down.
http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/2...cording-report

Read a little more.

Miami Dolphins players who protest on the field during the national anthem reportedly could be suspended for up to four games under a team policy issued this week.

The "Proper Anthem Conduct" section is just one sentence in a nine-page discipline document provided to The Associated Press by a person familiar with the policy who insisted on anonymity because the document is not public. It classifies anthem protests under a large list of "conduct detrimental to the club," all of which could lead to a paid or unpaid suspension, a fine, or both.


In a statement, the Dolphins confirmed they sent the NFL the document, without offering specifics on what plains it laid out.

"The NFL required each team to submit their rules regarding the anthem before their players reported to training camp," the team said. "We will address this issue once the season starts. All options are still open.''

Sources told ESPN's Jeff Darlington that the Dolphins have not made any internal decisions about the extent to which players will be disciplined for those protests. In addition, a league source said that the Dolphins' submission of potential discipline is standard protocol followed by every team before training camp opens. The Dolphins are among the first to have players (rookies, in this case) report to camp, and so they were among the first to be required to submit the mandatory paperwork.

On the Dolphins' side, sources say that by submitting the paperwork, they are merely delaying their decision on how to handle player discipline for protesting during the anthem. By submitting maximum penalties, they can easily tailor those back. But once the paperwork is submitted, it is the team's understanding that you can't increase potential discipline for conduct detrimental. One source said there is no expectation that a player will be suspended four games -- listed as the maximum possible penalty -- for protesting during the anthem.

Miami's anthem policy comes after the NFL decided in May that teams would be fined if players didn't stand during the national anthem while on the field. The league left it up to teams on how to punish players. None of the team policies has been made public.

The NFL rule forbids players from sitting or taking a knee if they are on the field or sideline during the anthem, but allows them to stay in the locker room if they wish. The new league rules were challenged this month in a grievance by the players union.

Any team that wants to discipline its players would have to do so under the "conduct detrimental" portion of the collective bargaining agreement.
Miami Dolphins Arian Foster (29), Kenny Stills (10) and Michael Thomas (31) kneel during the national anthem before a game against the New England Patriots in 2016. AP Photo/Steven Senne, File

The specific punishment that a team would be able to hand out according to the CBA states, "Conduct detrimental to Club -- maximum fine of an amount equal to one week's salary and/or suspension without pay for a period not to exceed four (4) weeks."

Wide receiver Kenny Stills, safety Michael Thomas and tight end Julius Thomas knelt during the anthem several times during the 2017 season. Only Stills is with the team now, as Michael Thomas signed with the New York Giants and Julius Thomas was released. The Dolphins also added defensive end Robert Quinn in a trade with the Los Angeles Rams in March. Quinn has raised his fist in protest during the anthem the past two years.

The NFL declined to comment to the Associated Press.

The NFLPA said earlier this month that the NFL policy, which the league imposed without consultation with the players union, is inconsistent with the collective bargaining agreement and infringes on player rights. The filing will be heard by an independent arbitrator, an NFLPA spokesman said.

When the league announced the policy, commissioner Roger Goodell called it a compromise aimed at putting the focus back on football after a tumultuous year in which television ratings dipped nearly 10 percent.

The union said when it filed the grievance that it proposed having its executive committee talk to the NFL instead of litigating. The union said the NFL agreed to those discussions.

Each of the league's 31 other teams will also need to submit similar paperwork in the coming days.

Chief Roundup 07-19-2018 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Otter (Post 13635866)
Sure do.</br></br>And their employer, the NFL, who asked them to stop protesting pays them handsomely to play.</br></br>I'm not going to play ring around the rosie on this subject again. Find a new employer if you don't like the rules of the guy who signs your paycheck.

The NFLPA said earlier this month that the NFL policy, which the league imposed without consultation with the players union, is inconsistent with the collective bargaining agreement and infringes on player rights. The filing will be heard by an independent arbitrator, an NFLPA spokesman said.

I think you need to learn a little more about a persons rights in the constitution. No employer can infringe on a employees personal rights.

Al Bundy 07-19-2018 06:08 PM

Great another bunch of faux outrage from out of shape racist white guys. If you that bothered by someone kneeling during a song go **** right off.

Flying High D 07-19-2018 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Chief Roundup (Post 13635918)
The NFLPA said earlier this month that the NFL policy, which the league imposed without consultation with the players union, is inconsistent with the collective bargaining agreement and infringes on player rights. The filing will be heard by an independent arbitrator, an NFLPA spokesman said.

I think you need to learn a little more about a persons rights in the constitution. No employer can infringe on a employees personal rights.

Somebody hasn’t served in the military. You have right to free speech. How does your employer feel about that? You have the right. You also have can suffer the consequences of those rights.

Flying High D 07-19-2018 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 13635895)
Maybe while he's kneeling, he can read a grammar book.


http://scontent-lax3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/...15&oe=5BD17AC3

Kiimo 07-19-2018 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Pablo (Post 13635858)
I bet you wish they'd stop doing the 'Budweiser Hero of the Game' camera too, huh??

ban budweiser

Chiefs4TheWin 07-19-2018 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Kiimosabi (Post 13635938)
ban budweiser

I don't think there's too many people that'd disagree with that statement lol!

Al Bundy 07-19-2018 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Otter (Post 13635859)
That would work if there weren't 80k ish fans in the stadium that payed a couple hundred dollars to view their team play football. These assholes need to leave their personal life at home just like everyone else.</br></br> Incremental fines, punishment with eventual dismissal from the league without compensation.

Those people need to get over it and look solely at the flag. Instead of what most fans do and drink beer and yell the teams name at the end of the anthem.

ChiTown 07-19-2018 06:23 PM

Interestingly enough, this won’t affect my viewing of any NFL Games one iota. So, ZFG.

Chief Roundup 07-19-2018 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Flying High D (Post 13635931)
Somebody hasn’t served in the military. You have right to free speech. How does your employer feel about that? You have the right. You also have can suffer the consequences of those rights.

And they can be sued and will settle the dispute quickly.


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