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O.city 10-01-2019 11:14 AM

Nick Jacobs all 22 breakdown discussion
 
Figured we could have a thread breaking some stuff down from his films and discuss.

O.city 10-01-2019 11:15 AM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Great run defense here. Frank Clark closes down the edge. Nnadi keeps outside shoulder. Jones stays ahead of the reach. Wilson great job crashing down back side. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/JacobsEyeInTheSky?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#JacobsEyeInTheSky</a> <a href="https://t.co/oDlB4KoYc4">pic.twitter.com/oDlB4KoYc4</a></p>&mdash; Nick Jacobs (@Jacobs71) <a href="https://twitter.com/Jacobs71/status/1179081072199557121?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 1, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Here's an example of good run defense. Look at Nnadi be a strong bull in there.

O.city 10-01-2019 11:24 AM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">First run. Lions double Chris Jones to till they reach the linebacker for a 5-yard pickup. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/JacobsEyeInTheSky?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#JacobsEyeInTheSky</a> <a href="https://t.co/7O530a6lVO">pic.twitter.com/7O530a6lVO</a></p>&mdash; Nick Jacobs (@Jacobs71) <a href="https://twitter.com/Jacobs71/status/1179079711206641665?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 1, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

petegz28 10-01-2019 11:30 AM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The first thing I’ll show. Look where the Lions safety is at. Ball is at the 26. He is mid field. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/JacobsEyeInTheSky?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#JacobsEyeInTheSky</a> <a href="https://t.co/1yRbFYUu6G">pic.twitter.com/1yRbFYUu6G</a></p>&mdash; Nick Jacobs (@Jacobs71) <a href="https://twitter.com/Jacobs71/status/1179079300689084416?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 1, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Mecca 10-01-2019 11:32 AM

Just that alone on that last play shows you that for as Athletic as Jones is, his point of attack strength isn't great for doubles.

I think we should experiment with some big fronts...and go head up, put Nnadi right over the center put Jones and Clark out at end and toss another big dude in there at DT, I don't like Williams but yea.

It's time to try some different ideas for this type of thing.

Sorce 10-01-2019 11:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by petegz28 (Post 14492924)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The first thing I’ll show. Look where the Lions safety is at. Ball is at the 26. He is mid field. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/JacobsEyeInTheSky?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#JacobsEyeInTheSky</a> <a href="https://t.co/1yRbFYUu6G">pic.twitter.com/1yRbFYUu6G</a></p>&mdash; Nick Jacobs (@Jacobs71) <a href="https://twitter.com/Jacobs71/status/1179079300689084416?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 1, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

I think this was a lot of their gameplan, don't give up the big play and punch at the ball at every opportunity. Basically we can't stop you but we're going to give you more chances to make a mistake which we gladly took them up on.

htismaqe 10-01-2019 11:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 14492929)
Just that alone on that last play shows you that for as Athletic as Jones is, his point of attack strength isn't great for doubles.

I think we should experiment with some big fronts...and go head up, put Nnadi right over the center put Jones and Clark out at end and toss another big dude in there at DT, I don't like Williams but yea.

It's time to try some different ideas for this type of thing.

Yep. Put Jones on the LE and put somebody else at the under tackle.

Mecca 10-01-2019 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Sorce (Post 14492951)
I think this was a lot of their gameplan, don't give up the big play and punch at the ball at every opportunity. Basically we can't stop you but we're going to give you more chances to make a mistake which we gladly took them up on.

They went man up to squat on short stuff with safeties super deep so the guys could take chances on shorter passes as help is behind them.

Mahomes being just off a bit made that gameplan work well, and they basically beat the shit out of Kelce and without Hill it made it tough.

Reality of the situation is we should have just ran crossers and created picks all game but well we didn't do that.

O.city 10-01-2019 11:44 AM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The cut block on Ogbah backside was key in springing this. Like to see Wilson delay a hop or two backside in the future for contain. Williams fights through his block to try to slow down the back. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/JacobsEyeInTheSky?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#JacobsEyeInTheSky</a> <a href="https://t.co/tNE5Dw6ZOU">pic.twitter.com/tNE5Dw6ZOU</a></p>&mdash; Nick Jacobs (@Jacobs71) <a href="https://twitter.com/Jacobs71/status/1179089253139132417?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 1, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

DL was ok here

O.city 10-01-2019 11:48 AM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Ogbah sets the edge and pinches down. Wilson fights through block. Nice pursuit by Hitchens backside by the TE’s questionable block. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/JacobsEyeInTheSky?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#JacobsEyeInTheSky</a> <a href="https://t.co/Be21vUJF1Y">pic.twitter.com/Be21vUJF1Y</a></p>&mdash; Nick Jacobs (@Jacobs71) <a href="https://twitter.com/Jacobs71/status/1179090242730631169?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 1, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

htismaqe 10-01-2019 11:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 14492982)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Ogbah sets the edge and pinches down. Wilson fights through block. Nice pursuit by Hitchens backside by the TE’s questionable block. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/JacobsEyeInTheSky?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#JacobsEyeInTheSky</a> <a href="https://t.co/Be21vUJF1Y">pic.twitter.com/Be21vUJF1Y</a></p>&mdash; Nick Jacobs (@Jacobs71) <a href="https://twitter.com/Jacobs71/status/1179090242730631169?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 1, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Yeah, he tackled Hitchens from behind. Should have been a penalty probably.

Deberg_1990 10-01-2019 11:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sorce (Post 14492951)
I think this was a lot of their gameplan, don't give up the big play and punch at the ball at every opportunity. Basically we can't stop you but we're going to give you more chances to make a mistake which we gladly took them up on.

Yep. That’s a decent strategy against our offense. Make them take longer drives with more plays. Longer drives means more chance for error.

Mecca 10-01-2019 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 14492987)
Yeah, he tackled Hitchens from behind. Should have been a penalty probably.

Those refs also let a ton of stuff go, Detroit was very grabby at the line and also in the secondary.

Any team that is allowed to manhandle the Chiefs receivers is going to give them issues.

O.city 10-01-2019 12:01 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Not sure what they wanted Fuller and Thornhill to do on this play but I know Breeland was doing his best to cover two receiving options at the same time. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/JacobsEyeInTheSky?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#JacobsEyeInTheSky</a> <a href="https://t.co/MrmIDtuJQA">pic.twitter.com/MrmIDtuJQA</a></p>&mdash; Nick Jacobs (@Jacobs71) <a href="https://twitter.com/Jacobs71/status/1179091451227119617?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 1, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Dunerdr 10-01-2019 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 14493018)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Not sure what they wanted Fuller and Thornhill to do on this play but I know Breeland was doing his best to cover two receiving options at the same time. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/JacobsEyeInTheSky?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#JacobsEyeInTheSky</a> <a href="https://t.co/MrmIDtuJQA">pic.twitter.com/MrmIDtuJQA</a></p>&mdash; Nick Jacobs (@Jacobs71) <a href="https://twitter.com/Jacobs71/status/1179091451227119617?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 1, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

not sure if 2018 orlando scandrick..

Pitt Gorilla 10-01-2019 12:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 14493018)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Not sure what they wanted Fuller and Thornhill to do on this play but I know Breeland was doing his best to cover two receiving options at the same time. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/JacobsEyeInTheSky?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#JacobsEyeInTheSky</a> <a href="https://t.co/MrmIDtuJQA">pic.twitter.com/MrmIDtuJQA</a></p>&mdash; Nick Jacobs (@Jacobs71) <a href="https://twitter.com/Jacobs71/status/1179091451227119617?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 1, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Jesus. That's terrible.

htismaqe 10-01-2019 12:24 PM

Thornhill is really struggling. I saw a lot of that in the B-more game.

Sorce 10-01-2019 12:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 14493011)
Those refs also let a ton of stuff go, Detroit was very grabby at the line and also in the secondary.

Any team that is allowed to manhandle the Chiefs receivers is going to give them issues.

Brady said we can't call holding anymore. /refs

RunKC 10-01-2019 12:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 14492929)
Just that alone on that last play shows you that for as Athletic as Jones is, his point of attack strength isn't great for doubles.

I think we should experiment with some big fronts...and go head up, put Nnadi right over the center put Jones and Clark out at end and toss another big dude in there at DT, I don't like Williams but yea.

It's time to try some different ideas for this type of thing.

There was a play that Spags purposely has Jones and Williams move outside towards the tackles so the middle was open for the blitz.

Unfortunately they caught it and ran the ball for like 8 yards.

Lzen 10-01-2019 12:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 14492955)
They went man up to squat on short stuff with safeties super deep so the guys could take chances on shorter passes as help is behind them.

Mahomes being just off a bit made that gameplan work well, and they basically beat the shit out of Kelce and without Hill it made it tough.

Reality of the situation is we should have just ran crossers and created picks all game but well we didn't do that.

You should email Andy with your suggestions for next time.

MAHOMO 4 LIFE! 10-01-2019 12:39 PM

Niemann needs to be playing more

Lzen 10-01-2019 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 14493071)
Thornhill is really struggling. I saw a lot of that in the B-more game.

I noticed that. Hoping that it is just the typical rookie with his head spinning. By the end of the season he should be doing more reacting instead of thinking.

Mecca 10-01-2019 12:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lzen (Post 14493087)
You should email Andy with your suggestions for next time.

Very funny, I'm allowed to critique what they did.

rambleonthruthefog 10-01-2019 12:43 PM

So does Frank Clark suck or not?

DJ's left nut 10-01-2019 12:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 14493071)
Thornhill is really struggling. I saw a lot of that in the B-more game.

Was that on Thorhill or did Fuller fail to get his depth?

Hard to know for sure, but if fuller just gets back a bit, that window isn't there. There weren't any check valves hanging around on that side of the field and Stafford isn't exactly someone you have to spy so I'm not sure what he might have been doing there.

If I'm taking a wild-ass guess, I'd say that was on Fuller more than Thornhill. Thornhill still serves a purpose back at the end-line in case one of those guys coming across the middle tries to leak out to the back of the end zone; you can see what he was seeing and what he was trying to be responsible for.

Fuller? There was no way for him to make an impact on that play from where he was, especially when he's just standing alongside Hitchens. Those 2 guys aren't supposed to be covering the same zone and yet they were.

I'd put my money on that being a Fuller mistake more than a Thornhill one.

htismaqe 10-01-2019 12:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 14493133)
Was that on Thorhill or did Fuller fail to get his depth?

Hard to know for sure, but if fuller just gets back a bit, that window isn't there. There weren't any check valves hanging around on that side of the field and Stafford isn't exactly someone you have to spy so I'm not sure what he might have been doing there.

If I'm taking a wild-ass guess, I'd say that was on Fuller more than Thornhill. Thornhill still serves a purpose back at the end-line in case one of those guys coming across the middle tries to leak out to the back of the end zone; you can see what he was seeing and what he was trying to be responsible for.

Fuller? There was no way for him to make an impact on that play from where he was, especially when he's just standing alongside Hitchens. Those 2 guys aren't supposed to be covering the same zone and yet they were.

I'd put my money on that being a Fuller mistake more than a Thornhill one.

Could very well be on Fuller that play but Thornhill also is late to get over. I said it after the Baltimore game - everything is still just a little faster than his processing. He'll get better as the season goes on.

DJ's left nut 10-01-2019 12:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 14493139)
Could very well be on Fuller that play but Thornhill also is late to get over. I said it after the Baltimore game - everything is still just a little faster than his processing. He'll get better as the season goes on.

Yeah - Thornhill needs the game to slow down for him a bit, but the only thing that will do that is time.

I think that even if he reads that play a half step sooner it would've taken a hell of a play on that out-breaking route. Hard to allow the guy inside position like that and expect Thornhill to just break around his body, even if he reads it correctly.

Meanwhile, if Fuller gets his depth, there's nowhere to throw that ball.

I may be over-complicating it a bit, but with only 1 guy back and a bunch of short zones, it seems unlikely that Thornhill would've been tasked with playing robber over the middle 2/3 of the field.

JohnnyHammersticks 10-01-2019 12:58 PM

:eek:
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Through 4 games, Kendall Fuller is allowing a 156.9(perfect passer rating=158.3), the highest in the league among CBs with at least 120 coverage snaps.<br><br>For comparisons sake, Ward is allowing a rating of 81.1 and Breeland is allowing a rating of 61.7.<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a> | <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/ChiefsKingdom?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#ChiefsKingdom</a></p>&mdash; Arrowhead Live (@ArrowheadLive) <a href="https://twitter.com/ArrowheadLive/status/1178779718021242880?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 30, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

MAHOMO 4 LIFE! 10-01-2019 12:59 PM

Fuller is doing really good on the outside. The inside he is garbage

htismaqe 10-01-2019 12:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JohnnyHammersticks (Post 14493150)
:eek:
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Through 4 games, Kendall Fuller is allowing a 156.9(perfect passer rating=158.3), the highest in the league among CBs with at least 120 coverage snaps.<br><br>For comparisons sake, Ward is allowing a rating of 81.1 and Breeland is allowing a rating of 61.7.<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a> | <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/ChiefsKingdom?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#ChiefsKingdom</a></p>&mdash; Arrowhead Live (@ArrowheadLive) <a href="https://twitter.com/ArrowheadLive/status/1178779718021242880?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 30, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

OUCH

It looked like he was struggling but :eek:

MAHOMO 4 LIFE! 10-01-2019 01:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rambleonthruthefog (Post 14493116)
So does Frank Clark suck or not?

Yes he does

Lzen 10-01-2019 01:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 14493111)
Very funny, I'm allowed to critique what they did.

:evil:

DJ's left nut 10-01-2019 01:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 14493156)
OUCH

It looked like he was struggling but :eek:

I would like to restate my previous objection ;)

Yeah, Fuller's looked lost in space a lot this year. Which surprises the hell out of me, to be honest. I thought he'd really thrive. I mean for as much shit as Ward takes around these parts, he's generally where he's supposed to be (just doesn't locate the ball on time). Fuller, OTOH, is oftentimes just meandering about and forcing the rest of the squad to play 10 on 11.

Mecca 10-01-2019 01:15 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Damien Wilson has been good this season, and this snap showed his ability to get downhill.<br><br>Hitchens attacks the A and fills the cutback with Williams. Jones stacks the RG and strings the play along. Clark sets edge while Wilson fires through the open gap. <a href="https://t.co/49mvZ0EEgl">pic.twitter.com/49mvZ0EEgl</a></p>&mdash; Craig Stout (@barleyhop) <a href="https://twitter.com/barleyhop/status/1179087630761373696?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 1, 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Emmanuel Ogbah has had a pretty solid last two weeks, and this stretch run late was a great heads up play.<br><br>DET pulls the TE and the tackle, trying to chip Ogbah with a WR. Ogbah ID&#39;s early, gets width to string the run along, and shows good pursuit to the sideline for the stop. <a href="https://t.co/ZNTYKffSw9">pic.twitter.com/ZNTYKffSw9</a></p>&mdash; Craig Stout (@barleyhop) <a href="https://twitter.com/barleyhop/status/1179089239830605825?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 1, 2019</a></blockquote>
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Mecca 10-01-2019 01:16 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">We talked last week about finishing opportunities to close the game, and here&#39;s another missed one.<br><br>2nd and long, LB&#39;s try to get Breeland to the trips w/ the RB to that side. Fuller beats the blocker and drives on the bubble, but can&#39;t make the tackle for a loss of 5. <a href="https://t.co/RhE9A5yGvu">pic.twitter.com/RhE9A5yGvu</a></p>&mdash; Craig Stout (@barleyhop) <a href="https://twitter.com/barleyhop/status/1179091008354766848?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 1, 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">DET gashed the Chiefs through the middle, and did a lot of damage on cutbacks. <br><br>KC tried to scrape exchange to protect stretch runs and DET took advantage by sealing the LB&#39;s and NT&#39;s while cut blocking the backside DE. Massive hole leads to massive yards. <a href="https://t.co/W2vnSK30fd">pic.twitter.com/W2vnSK30fd</a></p>&mdash; Craig Stout (@barleyhop) <a href="https://twitter.com/barleyhop/status/1179092893241413632?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 1, 2019</a></blockquote>
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Mecca 10-01-2019 01:16 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Spags is starting to play off of the attention Clark is getting.<br><br>Sorensen shows man, return motion outside. TE chips Clark, delaying his release into the flat. Sorensen comes unblocked off the edge and forces Stafford out of the pocket. Ball should have been intercepted. <a href="https://t.co/tsw0W2PL0U">pic.twitter.com/tsw0W2PL0U</a></p>&mdash; Craig Stout (@barleyhop) <a href="https://twitter.com/barleyhop/status/1179094478772211713?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 1, 2019</a></blockquote>
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O.city 10-01-2019 01:19 PM

Yeah, I think Fuller is kind of a lost cause at this point.

htismaqe 10-01-2019 01:21 PM

Craig Stout is a moron. Clark isn't getting any special attention...

Molitoth 10-01-2019 01:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 14492929)
Just that alone on that last play shows you that for as Athletic as Jones is, his point of attack strength isn't great for doubles.

I think we should experiment with some big fronts...and go head up, put Nnadi right over the center put Jones and Clark out at end and toss another big dude in there at DT, I don't like Williams but yea.

It's time to try some different ideas for this type of thing
.

Chris Simms said the same thing in his breakdown recap.

Mecca 10-01-2019 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Molitoth (Post 14493243)
Chris Simms said the same thing in his breakdown recap.

Is that out now? I looked yesterday and didn't see it. I listened to Lefkoe and Westbrook when I didn't see it.

Pitt Gorilla 10-01-2019 05:59 PM

Designed cutbacks are such nice plays.

dlphg9 10-01-2019 06:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 14493236)
Craig Stout is a moron. Clark isn't getting any special attention...

Yep I thought he was pretty knowledgeable, but then realized that he's just a homer that doesn't look at the tape objectively or maybe he does and knows that Chief Fan will love to use his analysis in an argument over Frank Clark's worth. After I read his bullshit write up after the Ravens game I realized he was full of shit.

I knew what was going to happen this week too. He broke down the 1 or 2 plays that FC was doubled or chipped and uses it as proof that it happened all game. I can't believe the clowns 610 bring on. I remember a few years back Fescoe was on FB promoting his Chiefs insider Nick Athan. With some of the shit that comes out of the 610 guys mouth I'd be willing to bet most of it comes from Nick Athan.

dlphg9 10-01-2019 06:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 14493229)
Yeah, I think Fuller is kind of a lost cause at this point.

I remember being so excited when we got him and a pick for AS. Our CB position looked to be in decent shape with him and Peters. That sure went to shit quick.

rabblerouser 10-03-2019 03:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 14493219)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Damien Wilson has been good this season, and this snap showed his ability to get downhill.<br><br>Hitchens attacks the A and fills the cutback with Williams. Jones stacks the RG and strings the play along. Clark sets edge while Wilson fires through the open gap. <a href="https://t.co/49mvZ0EEgl">pic.twitter.com/49mvZ0EEgl</a></p>&mdash; Craig Stout (@barleyhop) <a href="https://twitter.com/barleyhop/status/1179087630761373696?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 1, 2019</a></blockquote>
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That's not Damien Wilson.

MAHOMO 4 LIFE! 10-03-2019 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by rabblerouser (Post 14496833)
That's not Damien Wilson.

54 is Wilson....

rabblerouser 10-03-2019 03:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 14493236)
Craig Stout is a moron. Clark isn't getting any special attention...

Well, besides double teams and chip blocks...

rabblerouser 10-03-2019 03:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE! (Post 14496838)
54 is Wilson....

duh, that's right. So much turnover on D this year...

HemiEd 10-03-2019 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by rabblerouser (Post 14496843)
Well, besides double teams and chip blocks...

ROFL :banghead:

kccrow 10-03-2019 08:11 PM

Not much to discuss looking at more good plays than bad. I'd rather see more of the crap that led to KC getting gashed repeatedly to see if our conjectures about gap assignments are correct. The times they seem to do well in these vids, the guys are filling the appropriate gaps.

Mecca 10-15-2019 10:43 AM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">You never enjoy seeing the franchise get hit by a blitzing linebacker like this. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/JacobsEyeInTheSky?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#JacobsEyeInTheSky</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a> <a href="https://t.co/3LkdkrzNq1">pic.twitter.com/3LkdkrzNq1</a></p>&mdash; Nick Jacobs (@Jacobs71) <a href="https://twitter.com/Jacobs71/status/1184146650207522816?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 15, 2019</a></blockquote>
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Wow lots of miscommunication on that one.....looks like McCoy, Schwartz and Rankin all have a shot at that blitzer and none of them touch him.

Mecca 10-15-2019 10:46 AM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Not sure what Nnadi is doing here. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/JacobsEyeInTheSky?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#JacobsEyeInTheSky</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a> <a href="https://t.co/jbT8ZWRDjd">pic.twitter.com/jbT8ZWRDjd</a></p>&mdash; Nick Jacobs (@Jacobs71) <a href="https://twitter.com/Jacobs71/status/1184140615493308417?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 15, 2019</a></blockquote>
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Here is staylor favorite Derek Nnadi looking like he doesn't understand what gap he's supposed to be in.

Hammock Parties 10-15-2019 10:47 AM

another uncalled hold on kelce ****ing disgusting

MAHOMO 4 LIFE! 10-15-2019 10:49 AM

A lot of the linebackers shoot the same gap as the DL which makes them lose assignments. Like HB said. Care about as a unit not individual

Mecca 10-15-2019 10:50 AM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Texans ran this multiple times. Bring WR in motion. Wilson has to carry receiver. TE backside gets to come down the line of scrimmage at full speed. Wilson has to pass off WR to safety and pick up TE. Tough assignment. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/JacobsEyeInTheSky?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#JacobsEyeInTheSky</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a> <a href="https://t.co/slOHhUl87p">pic.twitter.com/slOHhUl87p</a></p>&mdash; Nick Jacobs (@Jacobs71) <a href="https://twitter.com/Jacobs71/status/1184133839020535810?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 15, 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">This is a very tough ask of Lee. Show a blitz look when Niemann is blitzing and then go cover the defender to his side where the spot is vacant with a free release for WR. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/JacobsEyeInTheSky?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#JacobsEyeInTheSky</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a> <a href="https://t.co/bAa4tIEjiQ">pic.twitter.com/bAa4tIEjiQ</a></p>&mdash; Nick Jacobs (@Jacobs71) <a href="https://twitter.com/Jacobs71/status/1184139883243298817?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 15, 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Texans run their sprint out to the TE again. Lee is going to be behind since he has to read and honor the run fake first with a TE going full speed at the line. Only way to adjust to it is to have a DE come up at layout the TE like it’s a pull block. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/JacobsEyeInTheSky?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#JacobsEyeInTheSky</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a> <a href="https://t.co/dNg6wRNCIm">pic.twitter.com/dNg6wRNCIm</a></p>&mdash; Nick Jacobs (@Jacobs71) <a href="https://twitter.com/Jacobs71/status/1184141740061745153?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 15, 2019</a></blockquote>
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Texans hit us with these kinds of plays all day to exploit the LB's. Won't be surprised to see a ton more of this moving forward from other teams.

DJ's left nut 10-15-2019 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 14527730)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Not sure what Nnadi is doing here. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/JacobsEyeInTheSky?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#JacobsEyeInTheSky</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a> <a href="https://t.co/jbT8ZWRDjd">pic.twitter.com/jbT8ZWRDjd</a></p>&mdash; Nick Jacobs (@Jacobs71) <a href="https://twitter.com/Jacobs71/status/1184140615493308417?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 15, 2019</a></blockquote>
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Here is staylor favorite Derek Nnadi looking like he doesn't understand what gap he's supposed to be in.

I'm a Nnadi stan, so I'll take a hit on that play.

Hard to say what he was trying to do there but yes, vapor lock seems to be the likely scenario. Sure seems like he forgot which gap to protect; maybe thought he heard a protection call that changed the crash or something. Really hard to say.

Pretty damn sure he didn't expect the dude to his right to come crashing down on him and slam the gap he was trying to get into shut, that's for sure.

Not a good rep.

ToxSocks 10-15-2019 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 14527730)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Not sure what Nnadi is doing here. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/JacobsEyeInTheSky?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#JacobsEyeInTheSky</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a> <a href="https://t.co/jbT8ZWRDjd">pic.twitter.com/jbT8ZWRDjd</a></p>&mdash; Nick Jacobs (@Jacobs71) <a href="https://twitter.com/Jacobs71/status/1184140615493308417?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 15, 2019</a></blockquote>
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Here is staylor favorite Derek Nnadi looking like he doesn't understand what gap he's supposed to be in.

That moment when the ball is snapped and the RG is immediately blocking at the 2nd level.

Mecca 10-15-2019 10:52 AM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Nnadi doubled. Wilson comes down too far right into Fells block. Niemann caught in traffic. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/JacobsEyeInTheSky?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#JacobsEyeInTheSky</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a> <a href="https://t.co/qV2pt8Et9M">pic.twitter.com/qV2pt8Et9M</a></p>&mdash; Nick Jacobs (@Jacobs71) <a href="https://twitter.com/Jacobs71/status/1184132789249150976?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 15, 2019</a></blockquote>
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Wilson played this like a moron.

Mecca 10-15-2019 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 14527752)
That moment when the ball is snapped and the RG is immediately blocking at the 2nd level.

Nnadi taking the wrong gap completely ****ed that play on so many levels.

MAHOMO 4 LIFE! 10-15-2019 10:52 AM

HB nailed this shit in his postgame interview. Players care more about themselves then as a team and it’s on full display right here. Players shooting gaps when it’s not their responsibility leaving wide open holes. I understand everyone wants to make a tackle but know your responsibility

Mecca 10-15-2019 10:53 AM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Niemann in what appears to be a run blitz. Unfortunately Wilson tries to take the same gap. Luckily Frank Clark crashes down and beats the TE set to kick him out for the fumble and recovery. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/JacobsEyeInTheSky?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#JacobsEyeInTheSky</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a> <a href="https://t.co/OigdJkUZKv">pic.twitter.com/OigdJkUZKv</a></p>&mdash; Nick Jacobs (@Jacobs71) <a href="https://twitter.com/Jacobs71/status/1184130454015881221?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 15, 2019</a></blockquote>
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Even on Clarks fumble play, we have 2 LB's in the same gap....

MAHOMO 4 LIFE! 10-15-2019 10:54 AM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Nnadi does a good job dropping the knee here on the double. Kpassagnon does a good job crashing down for the run stuff. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/JacobsEyeInTheSky?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#JacobsEyeInTheSky</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a> <a href="https://t.co/yxhTXlR4NR">pic.twitter.com/yxhTXlR4NR</a></p>&mdash; Nick Jacobs (@Jacobs71) <a href="https://twitter.com/Jacobs71/status/1184149172368355328?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 15, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Mecca 10-15-2019 10:55 AM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Juan Thornhill here on the jet sweep. Just closing it down on a Sunday like it isn’t a big deal. His speed is insane. Tough open field tackle too. He is special. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/JacobsEyeInTheSky?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#JacobsEyeInTheSky</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a> <a href="https://t.co/NhsQQL3lBh">pic.twitter.com/NhsQQL3lBh</a></p>&mdash; Nick Jacobs (@Jacobs71) <a href="https://twitter.com/Jacobs71/status/1184149774569820160?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 15, 2019</a></blockquote>
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Thornhill looks solid, so that's 1 I guess.

DJ's left nut 10-15-2019 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 14527741)
Texans hit us with these kinds of plays all day to exploit the LB's. Won't be surprised to see a ton more of this moving forward from other teams.

I take only a minor exception to this.

They aren't exploiting the LBs - they're exploiting Steve Spagnuolo. I mean FFS, you can't ask your LBs to go running with WRs and dropping off to TEs with regularity. Look at that first play - Wilson has NO chance at all. None. That's a free 7 yards every time and there's literally not a thing Wilson can do about it.

And it seems like we simply never reacted to it.

Because Spags hasn't demonstrated that he's a very good DC in about a decade. So many people kept coming up with excuses as to why his units were bad over the last several years but nobody ever gave an explanation as to why I should believe they'd have ever been good with him in charge.

At least with Clark you can look at the last couple of seasons where he looked far better and say "hey, he's hurt; has to be hurt..." and excuse the poor season. But Spags is about 3-1 in bad units vs. good units over the last several years and at some point the excuses are the trend. So don't tell me why he sucked - explain to me why he COULD be good.

Nobody ever did that. They just kept saying "Sutton's scheme was too complicated and Spags is simple!!!!" because 'Sutton's complicated scheme' was the narrative pushed by players that sucked at their jobs. Or they just went with "well anyone is better than Bob..."

Folks, Spags may not be. And that possibility was very real from the start.

Mecca 10-15-2019 10:56 AM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Tyreek Hill’s presence helps make this play. His lightning quick feet and releas force cushion for both he and Hardman. Easy first down to convert with that amount of cushion. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/JacobsEyeInTheSky?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#JacobsEyeInTheSky</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a> <a href="https://t.co/DbvGBkfdrE">pic.twitter.com/DbvGBkfdrE</a></p>&mdash; Nick Jacobs (@Jacobs71) <a href="https://twitter.com/Jacobs71/status/1184145419841998848?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 15, 2019</a></blockquote>
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Pretty obvious that Tyreek needs to get back to playing every down so this offense can be normal.

Mecca 10-15-2019 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 14527762)
I take only a minor exception to this.

They aren't exploiting the LBs - they're exploiting Steve Spagnuolo. I mean FFS, you can't ask your LBs to go running with WRs and dropping off to TEs with regularity. Look at that first play - Wilson has NO chance at all. None. That's a free 7 yards every time and there's literally not a thing Wilson can do about it.

And it seems like we simply never reacted to it.

Because Spags hasn't demonstrated that he's a very good DC in about a decade. So many people kept coming up with excuses as to why his units were bad over the last several years but nobody ever gave an explanation as to why I should believe they'd have ever been good with him in charge.

At least with Clark you can look at the last couple of seasons where he looked far better and say "hey, he's hurt; has to be hurt..." and excuse the poor season. But Spags is about 3-1 in bad units vs. good units over the last several years and at some point the excuses are the trend. So don't tell me why he sucked - explain to me why he COULD be good.

Nobody ever did that. They just kept saying "Sutton's scheme was too complicated and Spags is simple!!!!" because 'Sutton's complicated scheme' was the narrative pushed by players that sucked at their jobs. Or they just went with "well anyone is better than Bob..."

Folks, Spags may not be. And that possibility was very real from the start.

Nah you're right, on several of those the guys are in no win situations. They're asking for plays that I'm not sure All Pros can make from that position and if they can it would require you to have 3 supreme athletes that are elite caliber players...we have nothing close to that.

ToxSocks 10-15-2019 11:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 14527762)
I take only a minor exception to this.

They aren't exploiting the LBs - they're exploiting Steve Spagnuolo. I mean FFS, you can't ask your LBs to go running with WRs and dropping off to TEs with regularity. Look at that first play - Wilson has NO chance at all. None. That's a free 7 yards every time and there's literally not a thing Wilson can do about it.

And it seems like we simply never reacted to it.

Because Spags hasn't demonstrated that he's a very good DC in about a decade. So many people kept coming up with excuses as to why his units were bad over the last several years but nobody ever gave an explanation as to why I should believe they'd have ever been good with him in charge.

At least with Clark you can look at the last couple of seasons where he looked far better and say "hey, he's hurt; has to be hurt..." and excuse the poor season. But Spags is about 3-1 in bad units vs. good units over the last several years and at some point the excuses are the trend. So don't tell me why he sucked - explain to me why he COULD be good.

Nobody ever did that. They just kept saying "Sutton's scheme was too complicated and Spags is simple!!!!" because 'Sutton's complicated scheme' was the narrative pushed by players that sucked at their jobs. Or they just went with "well anyone is better than Bob..."

Folks, Spags may not be. And that possibility was very real from the start.

Exactly this.

Watching these clips today and aside from gap issues, i see a defense that's constantly in a position to lose. I was thinking to myself that we're ALREADY having schematic issues with Spags.

A guy that, as i argued all goddamn offseason, has fielded his fair share of rank 30+ defenses in his time.

New World Order 10-15-2019 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 14527758)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Niemann in what appears to be a run blitz. Unfortunately Wilson tries to take the same gap. Luckily Frank Clark crashes down and beats the TE set to kick him out for the fumble and recovery. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/JacobsEyeInTheSky?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#JacobsEyeInTheSky</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a> <a href="https://t.co/OigdJkUZKv">pic.twitter.com/OigdJkUZKv</a></p>&mdash; Nick Jacobs (@Jacobs71) <a href="https://twitter.com/Jacobs71/status/1184130454015881221?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 15, 2019</a></blockquote>
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Even on Clarks fumble play, we have 2 LB's in the same gap....

Yeah, that's a big gain if he doesn't fumble the ball.

MAHOMO 4 LIFE! 10-15-2019 11:03 AM

Wilson and Niemann again

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I’ll let you guys speculate on this TD. All I can tell you is Mathieu had to honor the receiver outside first so there’s your first clue. I’ll let you take it from there. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/JacobsEyeInTheSky?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#JacobsEyeInTheSky</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a> <a href="https://t.co/2265ehUzzr">pic.twitter.com/2265ehUzzr</a></p>&mdash; Nick Jacobs (@Jacobs71) <a href="https://twitter.com/Jacobs71/status/1184152316984909831?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 15, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

scho63 10-15-2019 11:04 AM

I'm a diehard football fan and have been loyal to the Chiefs since 1970. I have ZERO need to try and breakdown plays like a coach, any desire to get into the minutiae of 2-gap or 3-gap or cheerleaders gap, or wonder why the OL tackle moved his ankle to the outside instead of the inside.

Once I get to that point, football will no longer be a fun activity to watch and be much more like a ****ing job. I already got one fulltime and one part-time so I want to enjoy the game for what it is.

You guys have fun with this shit and go get 'em. Good for you......

ToxSocks 10-15-2019 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE! (Post 14527782)
Wilson and Niemann again

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I’ll let you guys speculate on this TD. All I can tell you is Mathieu had to honor the receiver outside first so there’s your first clue. I’ll let you take it from there. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/JacobsEyeInTheSky?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#JacobsEyeInTheSky</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a> <a href="https://t.co/2265ehUzzr">pic.twitter.com/2265ehUzzr</a></p>&mdash; Nick Jacobs (@Jacobs71) <a href="https://twitter.com/Jacobs71/status/1184152316984909831?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 15, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Wilson is a career backup who dorks around here were trying to pass as an "upgrade", and Neiman is an UDFA, and Hitchens is Shawn Barber II.

This is essentially the worst LB group we've seen since Mike Maslowski was a thing.

ToxSocks 10-15-2019 11:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scho63 (Post 14527786)
I'm a diehard football fan and have been loyal to the Chiefs since 1970. I have ZERO need to try and breakdown plays like a coach, any desire to get into the minutiae of 2-gap or 3-gap or cheerleaders gap, or wonder why the OL tackle moved his ankle to the outside instead of the inside.

Once I get to that point, football will no longer be a fun activity to watch and be much more like a ****ing job. I already got one fulltime and one part-time so I want to enjoy the game for what it is.

You guys have fun with this shit and go get 'em. Good for you......

ok

DJ's left nut 10-15-2019 11:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE! (Post 14527782)
Wilson and Niemann again

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I’ll let you guys speculate on this TD. All I can tell you is Mathieu had to honor the receiver outside first so there’s your first clue. I’ll let you take it from there. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/JacobsEyeInTheSky?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#JacobsEyeInTheSky</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a> <a href="https://t.co/2265ehUzzr">pic.twitter.com/2265ehUzzr</a></p>&mdash; Nick Jacobs (@Jacobs71) <a href="https://twitter.com/Jacobs71/status/1184152316984909831?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 15, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Niemann isn't the problem there.

Wilson, Thornhill and Clark are.

Clark's slow off the ball and way too easy to wall off so the edge fails almost immediately. Wilson is too slow to diagnose and get into the gap to blow up Fells on the pull and Thornhill, who sure as shit seems to have some sort of responsibility with Fells, doesn't flow with him as he's pulling (which should've telegraphed that play pretty easily) and is dancing behind the LOS instead of reading and running to the spot. You can see him watching Fells and why that doesn't get him flowing instead of dancing behind the B gap is just beyond me.

Niemann did his job closing off the backside A gap. Clark, Wilson and Thornhill needed to get the job done there and all 3 of them failed.

DJ's left nut 10-15-2019 11:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scho63 (Post 14527786)
I'm a diehard football fan and have been loyal to the Chiefs since 1970. I have ZERO need to try and breakdown plays like a coach, any desire to get into the minutiae of 2-gap or 3-gap or cheerleaders gap, or wonder why the OL tackle moved his ankle to the outside instead of the inside.

Once I get to that point, football will no longer be a fun activity to watch and be much more like a ****ing job. I already got one fulltime and one part-time so I want to enjoy the game for what it is.

You guys have fun with this shit and go get 'em. Good for you......

Something something "once I get to the point of paying for blowjobs, they will no longer be a fun activity for me" something something.

You do you, boo...

ToxSocks 10-15-2019 11:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 14527800)
Something something "once I get to the point of paying for blowjobs, they will no longer be a fun activity for me" something something.

You do you, boo...

These are the same guys that will come back and argue with you in the offseason that Spags is a good hire and that Wilson is an upgrade.

MAHOMO 4 LIFE! 10-15-2019 11:19 AM

KPass needs more playing time

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Kpassagnon does a good job on the double. Niemann comes up and forces the LG to bail, so Kpassagnon gets a one on one to make the tackle. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/JacobsEyeInTheSky?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#JacobsEyeInTheSky</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a> <a href="https://t.co/xIWcDIKYu2">pic.twitter.com/xIWcDIKYu2</a></p>&mdash; Nick Jacobs (@Jacobs71) <a href="https://twitter.com/Jacobs71/status/1184154227469377537?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 15, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

notorious 10-15-2019 11:23 AM

You guys have an iron gut. Watching the breakdown of each failure is like witnessing a puppy drown over and over.

New World Order 10-15-2019 11:26 AM

I thought Spags scheme was supposed to be simple.

LBs look like they have no ****ing clue what gap to fill.

MAHOMO 4 LIFE! 10-15-2019 11:27 AM

Thornhill is gonna be great

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I NEED YOU TO STOP WHATEVER YOU ARE DOING AND WATCH THIS. KC brings a blitz off the edge. Fuller their fastest WR gets a free 10-yard release. Juan Thornhill stays with his stride for stride locates the football and makes the pick. Incredible ability. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/JacobsEyeInTheSky?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#JacobsEyeInTheSky</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a> <a href="https://t.co/m9YbpqK6v0">pic.twitter.com/m9YbpqK6v0</a></p>&mdash; Nick Jacobs (@Jacobs71) <a href="https://twitter.com/Jacobs71/status/1184157190665527296?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 15, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

MAHOMO 4 LIFE! 10-15-2019 11:30 AM

Reiter and Erving suck ass. Robinson was so open

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">One of the turning points of the game here. KC wanting to push it deep after the pick. Robinson open on the double move at the bottom but Reiter and Erving have both lost their matchups off the PA fake and ball gets knocked out. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/JacobsEyeInTheSky?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#JacobsEyeInTheSky</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a> <a href="https://t.co/48ctyVb4aF">pic.twitter.com/48ctyVb4aF</a></p>&mdash; Nick Jacobs (@Jacobs71) <a href="https://twitter.com/Jacobs71/status/1184159175796023297?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 15, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Mecca 10-15-2019 11:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 14527792)
Wilson is a career backup who dorks around here were trying to pass as an "upgrade", and Neiman is an UDFA, and Hitchens is Shawn Barber II.

This is essentially the worst LB group we've seen since Mike Maslowski was a thing.

The only LB on this team that has true elite athletic gifts is Darron Lee and he is an underachiever to this point of his career. The rest of that group is literally a bunch of jags. If you nuked that position and just signed practice squad/street FA's I doubt you'd be any worse.


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