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RunKC 06-02-2020 07:02 PM

Vic Fangio goes full reerun
 
Good job saying the absolute worst thing a HC in the NFL can say on a day like this. Optics here are horrific. Broncos PR is already feeling the heat LMAO

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Vic Fangio: &quot;We&#39;re a league of meritocracy. You get what you earn I don&#39;t see racism at all in the NFL. I don&#39;t see discrimination in the NFL.&quot;</p>&mdash; Andrew Mason (@MaseDenver) <a href="https://twitter.com/MaseDenver/status/1267944235258413056?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 2, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

staylor26 06-02-2020 07:07 PM

LMAO

While I’m over the “NFL is so racist” narrative, this is hilarious.

Pasta Little Brioni 06-02-2020 07:13 PM

Incredible ROFL

jerryaldini 06-02-2020 07:21 PM

Amid nationwide protests over systemic racism and police brutality that were brought to light once again by George Floyd’s death last week, Broncos coach Vic Fangio said Tuesday, “This is a societal issue that we all have to join in to correct.”

“I was shocked, sad and angry when I saw what the policemen did to a handcuffed George Floyd on his stomach that led to his death,” Fangio said in a prepared statement during a Zoom conference with the media. “(Minnesota police officer Derek Chauvin) should be punished to the fullest extent of the law for the crimes he has been charged with, in addition to being charged with treason for failing to uphold the badge of the uniform he was entrusted with.”

Fangio’s remarks came on the heels of a pair of team meetings earlier in the day in which team president Joe Ellis urged Broncos players to use their platforms to speak out against racism and discrimination, adding that the team had a responsibility to do so.

https://www.denverpost.com/2020/06/0...wide-protests/

Chiefspants 06-02-2020 07:21 PM

Holy ****

Pablo 06-02-2020 07:22 PM

5-11 at best.

dlphg9 06-02-2020 07:22 PM

Good Lord, why come out and say that especially now

Setsuna 06-02-2020 07:24 PM

He's not wrong but ROFL

Rain Man 06-02-2020 07:26 PM

If the Broncos were a meritocracy, you'd think they'd have had a better quarterback over the past few years.

RealSNR 06-02-2020 07:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 15002209)
If the Broncos were a meritocracy, you'd think they'd have had a better quarterback over the past few years.

Or a better head coach, for that matter

BigRedChief 06-02-2020 07:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Setsuna (Post 15002207)
He's not wrong but ROFL

hes FOS. Locker rooms may be color blind but they are not meritocracies. It’s 2020, show me a locker room that would accept a gay player.

Hog's Gone Fishin 06-02-2020 08:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 15002278)
hes FOS. Locker rooms may be color blind but they are not meritocracies. It’s 2020, show me a locker room that would accept a gay player.



Denver Broncos I'm pretty sure.

Gravedigger 06-02-2020 08:07 PM

Riley Cooper says hi Vic!

vailpass 06-02-2020 08:09 PM

What’s the issue?

smithandrew051 06-02-2020 08:10 PM

Regardless of your opinion of what he said, this was an EXTREMELY ill-timed/tonedeaf comment. Not smart at all.

displacedinMN 06-02-2020 08:18 PM

https://media.giphy.com/media/l2Je43...F98Q/giphy.gif

Deberg_1990 06-02-2020 08:29 PM

Chiefs defensive coordinator in 2022?

BWillie 06-02-2020 08:30 PM

You should be able to say these things....and not lose your job. But lets see. They'll be a mutiny because the fickle mob will attack. Just watch. It will be sickening.

RunKC 06-02-2020 08:34 PM

Roughly 80% of your players are black. There was just a motion to give a team more draft incentive for hiring a ****ing black coach bc the rule they put in place before wasn’t working.

Saying this, especially today, is really really REALLY ****ing stupid. The players won’t be forgetting this either.

Rain Man 06-02-2020 08:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 15002240)
Or a better head coach, for that matter

Oh, that was a much better retort than mine. I didn't think long enough before posting.

Deberg_1990 06-02-2020 08:39 PM

Meritocracy?

How do you explain Matt Cassell?

displacedinMN 06-02-2020 08:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 15002335)
You should be able to say these things....and not lose your job. But lets see. They'll be a mutiny because the fickle mob will attack. Just watch. It will be sickening.

unless they burn down the Broncs stadium

Setsuna 06-02-2020 08:58 PM

This is bad news for the Chiefs. Now the Broncos won't be coached by this idiot. They might get someone competent now.

kcclone 06-02-2020 09:01 PM

Denver’s “woke” fan base isn’t gonna like this.....

notorious 06-02-2020 09:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Setsuna (Post 15002387)
This is bad news for the Chiefs. Now the Broncos won't be coached by this idiot. They might get someone competent now.

LMAO

tk13 06-02-2020 09:29 PM

"You get what you earn"

Remember, when you see someone say this, the answer is always: "Matt Cassel made $65 million dollars in the NFL."

BryanBusby 06-02-2020 09:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Setsuna (Post 15002387)
This is bad news for the Chiefs. Now the Broncos won't be coached by this idiot. They might get someone competent now.

No way LMAO

John Elway is jerking off to that statement.

Shiver Me Timbers 06-02-2020 10:10 PM

Goes full RT?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 15002164)
Good job saying the absolute worst thing a HC in the NFL can say on a day like this. Optics here are horrific....

Been a candidate for the short bus (mile high version) for a while now.

sully1983 06-02-2020 10:25 PM

http://www.bubbleblabber.com/wp-cont.../08/dumdum.jpg

Tribal Warfare 06-02-2020 10:30 PM

Fangio lost the locker room with that comment

prhom 06-02-2020 11:02 PM

If you can’t say something PC, don’t say anything at all.

Bump 06-02-2020 11:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by prhom (Post 15002596)
If you can’t say something PC, don’t say anything at all.

political correctness is a tool that is used to silence people. Not sure what the context was, was there a question asked? Did he just bring this up out of nowhere? People are reee'ing "especially now, how could he say this?" Is the NFL racist? Is what he said wrong?

Halfcan 06-02-2020 11:59 PM

Getting swept by the Chiefs, yet again- and missing the playoffs, will doom this idiot to the unemployment line.

We are literally going to bitch-slap them up and down the field. Again!

Setsuna 06-03-2020 12:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by notorious (Post 15002435)
LMAO

Quote:

Originally Posted by BryanBusby (Post 15002450)
No way LMAO

John Elway is jerking off to that statement.

ROFLROFLROFL Yeah yall got that division on lock for the next decade

Pitt Gorilla 06-03-2020 01:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 15002209)
If the Broncos were a meritocracy, you'd think they'd have had a better quarterback over the past few years.

If they were a meritocracy, they'd hire a much less ****ty HC like Eric Bienemy. Thank goodness they aren't.

Pitt Gorilla 06-03-2020 01:06 AM

Garrett Bolles has a roster spot. Does that scream meritocracy to anyone?

prhom 06-03-2020 07:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bump (Post 15002631)
political correctness is a tool that is used to silence people. Not sure what the context was, was there a question asked? Did he just bring this up out of nowhere? People are reee'ing "especially now, how could he say this?" Is the NFL racist? Is what he said wrong?

I have no idea what the context was or what prompted him to say that. You are absolutely right about how being PC is used to silence people. Not just silence people but to categorize them. Both political extremes do it too. What is politically correct for one group is not for the other. There’s little real thought or discourse in politics anymore. You either use the rhetoric of one group or you get labeled as part of the other.

MahiMike 06-03-2020 07:10 AM

What am I missing here?

Marcellus 06-03-2020 07:35 AM

So just to be clear, the poster used the term "reerun" in the title of the OP to make fun of a coach who he thinks is lost on the concept of discrimination?

Grim 06-03-2020 07:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 15002968)
So just to be clear, the poster used the term "reerun" in the title of the OP to make fun of a coach who he thinks is lost on the concept of discrimination?

:LOL:

Demonpenz 06-03-2020 08:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 15002968)
So just to be clear, the poster used the term "reerun" in the title of the OP to make fun of a coach who he thinks is lost on the concept of discrimination?

He used a meme.

KCUnited 06-03-2020 08:24 AM

Thanks Vic Klangio

58-4ever 06-03-2020 08:28 AM

whether he really believes this or not, what an awful time for a statement like that.... wow.

bdj23 06-03-2020 08:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gravedigger (Post 15002304)
Riley Cooper says hi Vic!

Riley Cooper has been retired for 5 years.

KChiefs1 06-03-2020 08:46 AM

He should be fired but I hope he isn’t.

We need more head coaches like him in the AFC West. LMAO

ChiefRocka 06-03-2020 09:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 15002164)
Good job saying the absolute worst thing a HC in the NFL can say on a day like this. Optics here are horrific. Broncos PR is already feeling the heat LMAO

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Vic Fangio: &quot;We&#39;re a league of meritocracy. You get what you earn I don&#39;t see racism at all in the NFL. I don&#39;t see discrimination in the NFL.&quot;</p>&mdash; Andrew Mason (@MaseDenver) <a href="https://twitter.com/MaseDenver/status/1267944235258413056?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 2, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

https://i.imgflip.com/ujfni.jpg

dj56dt58 06-03-2020 11:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 15002348)
Roughly 80% of your players are black. There was just a motion to give a team more draft incentive for hiring a ****ing black coach bc the rule they put in place before wasn’t working.

Saying this, especially today, is really really REALLY ****ing stupid. The players won’t be forgetting this either.

There should be a roony rule for players..we’ll call it the Wes Welker rule. Wonder how that would go over..

mr. tegu 06-03-2020 11:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 58-4ever (Post 15002998)
whether he really believes this or not, what an awful time for a statement like that.... wow.


There’s never an awful time to try to encourage the reduction of the constantly growing victim mentality.

Redbled 06-03-2020 11:43 AM

Come on over Von.

dlphg9 06-03-2020 11:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 15002968)
So just to be clear, the poster used the term "reerun" in the title of the OP to make fun of a coach who he thinks is lost on the concept of discrimination?

Man you just constantly have awful takes.

OrtonsPiercedTaint 06-03-2020 12:10 PM

Same sex, sex,is fine. As long as both are not human
- broncos official, perhaps

staylor26 06-03-2020 12:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KChiefs1 (Post 15003009)
He should be fired but I hope he isn’t.

We need more head coaches like him in the AFC West. LMAO

JFC this is so stupid :facepalm:

Marcellus 06-03-2020 12:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dlphg9 (Post 15003290)
Man you just constantly have awful takes.

If you are too stupid to understand, thats not my fault.

KCJake 06-03-2020 12:45 PM

This guy is getting lit up for this but I agree with him. The best players play, the best coaches coach. Get over it

Red Dawg 06-03-2020 12:56 PM

It's possible that Eric B is a bad interview.

BigRedChief 06-03-2020 12:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCJake (Post 15003387)
This guy is getting lit up for this but I agree with him. The best players play, the best coaches coach. Get over it

Again, not true 100% of the time. It's color blind. Thats some serious progress. The best players don't always play.

The NFL is no different from your standard office environment. The boss has their favorites. Employees viewed as "team" players play above others based on contract, money or relationship to the boss or the team/company. People move on because they feel/have been mistreated, underpaid etc.

The American military since it was forced to racially integrate has embraced the concept of meritocracy. It is the closest to a meritocracy that's ever existed and its not a true meritocracy.

ping2000 06-03-2020 12:59 PM

So what's the endgame for the NFL? How many black coaches and black upper management members are required? Is there a target number?

RunKC 06-03-2020 01:07 PM

Bieniemy leads an offense to historical records and a Super Bowl. One of the best resumes an emerging OC can have.

Nope gotta hire this 37 year old QB coach who failed as OC before after 1 year and had to go back to college. But he gave Sean McVay handjobs in LA!

Great hire Bengals. Look where that got you

mr. tegu 06-03-2020 01:54 PM

Why do people assume Bienemy wanted the jobs he interviewed for or that he didn’t decide he wanted another year of learning under Reid?

Stinger 06-03-2020 01:55 PM

Whoops my bad - Vic Fangio

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">“After reflecting on my comments yesterday and listening to the players this morning, I realize what I said regarding racism and discrimination in the NFL was wrong.&quot;<br><br>A statement from Head Coach Vic Fangio: <a href="https://t.co/5yNNDn9VzY">pic.twitter.com/5yNNDn9VzY</a></p>&mdash; Denver Broncos (@Broncos) <a href="https://twitter.com/Broncos/status/1268266477683081218?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 3, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

carcosa 06-03-2020 01:58 PM

Always funny when an old white guy says he doesn't see any discrimination. Of course you don't, dummy, you're not experiencing any!

OrtonsPiercedTaint 06-03-2020 02:13 PM

Divorce was invented so everyone could have a taste. Just a taste

RealSNR 06-03-2020 02:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Red Dawg (Post 15003416)
It's possible that Eric B is a bad interview.

Andy Reid has the best coaching tree reputation of any coach in the NFL. His guys get jobs. Period. I doubt Eric Bieniemy could be an established coaching product who doesn't nail his interviews. Listen to his press conferences. He's pretty clear about communicating his goals and his plans to NFL media and fans.

Plus, just look at this: https://ftw.usatoday.com/2020/02/chi...len-super-bowl

Pitt Gorilla 06-03-2020 02:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dj56dt58 (Post 15003216)
There should be a roony rule for players..we’ll call it the Wes Welker rule. Wonder how that would go over..

There literally is; Garrett Bolles has a job. It's clearly not due to ability.

BWillie 06-03-2020 02:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stinger (Post 15003520)
Whoops my bad - Vic Fangio

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">“After reflecting on my comments yesterday and listening to the players this morning, I realize what I said regarding racism and discrimination in the NFL was wrong.&quot;<br><br>A statement from Head Coach Vic Fangio: <a href="https://t.co/5yNNDn9VzY">pic.twitter.com/5yNNDn9VzY</a></p>&mdash; Denver Broncos (@Broncos) <a href="https://twitter.com/Broncos/status/1268266477683081218?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 3, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

So he had to be like, yeah I'm sorry, so the NFL is racist. I apologize for saying it wasn't. Good lord. He never said discrimination wasn't wrong.

ForeverChiefs58 06-03-2020 03:24 PM

He wasn’t wrong the first time

Perineum Ripper 06-03-2020 03:37 PM

I guess someone had to make Bill O earn stupidest **** this offseason.

ping2000 06-03-2020 04:28 PM

This is why Belicheat just mumbles at the media.

jdubya 06-03-2020 04:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by carcosa (Post 15003528)
Always funny when an old white guy says he doesn't see any discrimination. Of course you don't, dummy, you're not experiencing any!

Always funny when young folks assume old guys have little life experience

Rain Man 06-03-2020 04:32 PM

He should make a third statement tomorrow that says, "The NFL is astoundingly racist. It's the most racist thing I've ever seen. You could not possibly believe how racist it is."

Y'know, just to see what the reaction would be.

Chieftain 06-03-2020 04:34 PM

I'm glad Bienemy hasn't been hired because that means we get to keep him. The guy is a great motivator and a player's coach. Always enjoyable listening to his press interviews. Teams out there are plain dumb and hire unproven coaches. I would be more upset of losing Bienemy than Kafka.

KCJake 06-03-2020 05:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mr. tegu (Post 15003517)
Why do people assume Bienemy wanted the jobs he interviewed for or that he didn’t decide he wanted another year of learning under Reid?

Just to add to this, why do people assume he didn't get hired because he's black? Any chance it could of been one of a million other reasons? Like they wanted a different head coach instead ? Gosh that would that would be strange .....

BWillie 06-03-2020 05:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCJake (Post 15003965)
Just to add to this, why do people assume he didn't get hired because he's black? Any chance it could of been one of a million other reasons? Like they wanted a different head coach instead ? Gosh that would that would be strange .....

I think the only knock against Bienemy is that he is just a product of the Andy Reid system and it wasn't his creation.

But that is also his best selling point, too. He knows the system and how to implement it. I think it depends on who's doing the hiring what they think about how that will translate to their team.

I'm not going to say there is no chance he hasn't been hired due to racism. The people that do the hiring are likely going to relate more to someone of their own race, and almost all of the billionaire owners are white guys. They just need to be aware of their potential bias going into things. Just like if I went and tried to get a job at a 90% black owned business, I would expect there would be some inherent bias towards me. How could there not be? We are not all the same. We relate to each other based on socioeconomic, cultural, and other social factors. Race really isn't even a big part of it IMO, it's those socioeconomic, cultural and other social factors that cause the bias. Such is life.

I will say at least with 95% of business, any bias or "racism" isn't done with intention of evil. It just happens. It's something we need to fix, though. Definitely.

notorious 06-03-2020 05:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 15003630)
So he had to be like, yeah I'm sorry, so the NFL is racist. I apologize for saying it wasn't. Good lord. He never said discrimination wasn't wrong.

Yeah, the media is just piling on because they are scared to agree with him.

carcosa 06-03-2020 07:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jdubya (Post 15003851)
Always funny when young folks assume old guys have little life experience

I think it's safe to assume that an old white guy has no experience being black.

ping2000 06-03-2020 07:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by carcosa (Post 15004196)
I think it's safe to assume that an old white guy has no experience being black.

I don't think any of us can change races, so we are going to have to figure it out another way.

BigRedChief 06-03-2020 07:32 PM

I’d bet money the majority of the NFL players take a knee for the national anthem this season. The NFL and teams won’t say shit this time.

DaneMcCloud 06-03-2020 08:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by notorious (Post 15004009)
Yeah, the media is just piling on because they are scared to agree with him.

The "media" is EVERYWHERE.

It's on your phone.

It's on your iPad.

It's on Instagram and Tik Tok and Twitter and Snap Chat and just about EVERYWHERE you look.

Here's an idea: Don't say stupid shit. Then the "media" won't have anything bad to say about you.

jerryaldini 06-03-2020 08:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCJake (Post 15003387)
This guy is getting lit up for this but I agree with him. The best players play, the best coaches coach. Get over it

Agree on players, although look how long it took to get black quarterbacks and middle linebackers. Stereotyping dictated position biases for a long time. I think the same has been true in hiring coaches among certain owners and gms, but it's slowly changing.

jdubya 06-03-2020 08:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by carcosa (Post 15004196)
I think it's safe to assume that an old white guy has no experience being black.

As a guy who is only a few years younger than Vic, I would advise you to rethink "safe assumptions". Life experience will teach you that ;)


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