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ntexascardfan 12-20-2019 12:48 AM

Kenneth Murray is a slightly bigger Gary Johnson.

Chris Meck 12-20-2019 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 14665464)
Oh sure, NOW you heathens come around.

I get savaged for taking a C for the Chiefs in round 1 of the CP Mock last year but now EVERYBODY wants to get on board with the 1st round fatty.

I see how it is...

Well, to be fair, Reiter didn't look like the dumpster fire that he's become back then. He looked 'serviceable'. Now he's been exposed as a 300 pound bag of dogshit.

Also, the defense was SUCH a huge problem we had glaring needs.

Now I feel pretty good about the defensive situation. Next up, offensive line.

duncan_idaho 12-20-2019 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by kccrow (Post 14666785)
The more I watch Murray, the less I like him. He doesn't attack the LOS well enough for me. He's like a more athletic Hitchens. I'm not sure I want to spend a 1st round pick on a guy like that.

I like the rest, but not so sure you're getting Akers at the end of the 3rd round. I think top half of the 3rd is his floor so you'd be moving up or taking him at the end of the 2nd.

As for a TE, don't sleep on Brycen Hopkins. Kid is a stud. One really accurate source has him as late 3rd right now.


I haven’t watched a lot of film on him - just highlights from this season. The physical package is there and perfect for a WLB/nickel LB in today’s NFL.

His 2019 highlights show him crashing downhill well on run plays and taking direct routes to the ball carrier, even fighting through some traffic to get there.

He’s not perfect, but I think he would be an upgrade for KC and good value if he’s there at 32.

duncan_idaho 12-20-2019 10:09 AM

Ran a few mocks on NFL Draft Network, just for fun.

Which do we like better:

A)
Creed Humphrey (C)
Bryce Hall (CB)
Troy Dye (LB)
Ke’Shawn Vaughn (RB)
Colby Parkinson (TE)

B)
Shaun Wade (CB)
Netane Muti (LG)
Cam Akers (RB)
Jordyn Brooks (LB, Texas Tech)
Albert Okwuegbunum (TE)

C)
Kenneth Murray (Lb)
Darryl Williams (G)
Essang Bassey (CB)
Ke’Shawn Vaughn (RB)
Quintez Cepheus (WR)

'Hamas' Jenkins 12-20-2019 10:24 AM

MU STH here. I would not have Albert O on my board at all. He's a dog.

duncan_idaho 12-20-2019 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 14667216)
MU STH here. I would not have Albert O on my board at all. He's a dog.


That has been my opinion and was until I started reading mocks/playing around with it this week.

I think it still is, really. I can see the case for taking a swing, if he falls far enough.

Buehler445 12-20-2019 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 14667023)
Well, to be fair, Reiter didn't look like the dumpster fire that he's become back then. He looked 'serviceable'. Now he's been exposed as a 300 pound bag of dogshit.

Also, the defense was SUCH a huge problem we had glaring needs.

Now I feel pretty good about the defensive situation. Next up, offensive line.

I agree. But we are going to have to continue to work on the D just because so many contracts are up.

Chris Meck 12-20-2019 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Buehler445 (Post 14667299)
I agree. But we are going to have to continue to work on the D just because so many contracts are up.

well, yeah, but that's kind of the NFL every year.

I think we can re-sign Jones and bring back who we want on defense.

I've just started my usual late season morning routine, in which I do two or three mock drafts on a simulator while I have my coffee.

Of course, it's super early, and of course, nobody REALLY knows where anyone outside of maybe the top ten prospects will go, but so far it looks like if you want a day one upgrade at Center, you're going to have to do it in round one and possibly round two... Same with corner. Same with LB. Guards and running backs you could maybe get it to round three.

I just think that the OL and center in particular is the MUST upgrade area, as it affects Mahomes health and the ability of the offense to function.

I think we can do what we need to with the DL and bring back a corner or two on reasonable deals. LB corps has issues, but is no longer the disaster it was.

I'd like a C, a CB, a LB, and a RB in that first 4, and probably in that order.

Buehler445 12-20-2019 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 14667395)
well, yeah, but that's kind of the NFL every year.

I think we can re-sign Jones and bring back who we want on defense.

I've just started my usual late season morning routine, in which I do two or three mock drafts on a simulator while I have my coffee.

Of course, it's super early, and of course, nobody REALLY knows where anyone outside of maybe the top ten prospects will go, but so far it looks like if you want a day one upgrade at Center, you're going to have to do it in round one and possibly round two... Same with corner. Same with LB. Guards and running backs you could maybe get it to round three.

I just think that the OL and center in particular is the MUST upgrade area, as it affects Mahomes health and the ability of the offense to function.

I think we can do what we need to with the DL and bring back a corner or two on reasonable deals. LB corps has issues, but is no longer the disaster it was.

I'd like a C, a CB, a LB, and a RB in that first 4, and probably in that order.

Swap CB and LB and I'm right with you.

DJ's left nut 12-20-2019 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 14667395)
I'd like a C, a CB, a LB, and a RB in that first 4, and probably in that order.

I'd like the LB upgrade but I think it's a pipe dream. Hitchens isn't a complete disaster anymore and they're just not gonna eat that much money.

I'd be pretty content with C, G, CB, RB in the first 4 rounds in any order. I hate that we'll need to neglect a developmental OT again but we just have needs on the interior that are far too great.

O.city 12-20-2019 05:48 PM

I think if you have to go the developmental/ cheap FA route, you do it at LB'er again or maybe at CB.

It's just time to invest in the interior OL for sure. I'd love to really go at CB too, but they need to first and foremost keep Mahomes upright.

Chief Northman 12-20-2019 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 14667185)
Ran a few mocks on NFL Draft Network, just for fun.

Which do we like better:

A)
Creed Humphrey (C)
Bryce Hall (CB)
Troy Dye (LB)
Ke’Shawn Vaughn (RB)
Colby Parkinson (TE)

B)
Shaun Wade (CB)
Netane Muti (LG)
Cam Akers (RB)
Jordyn Brooks (LB, Texas Tech)
Albert Okwuegbunum (TE)

C)
Kenneth Murray (Lb)
Darryl Williams (G)
Essang Bassey (CB)
Ke’Shawn Vaughn (RB)
Quintez Cepheus (WR)

A) Humphrey
B) Albert O
C) Murray

Lol.

BryanBusby 12-21-2019 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 14664178)
I looked at 4-5 mocks done in the past week, and he was going in the early second in all of them, so it seemed safe.

That may change as teams look at FA and the draft and realize the scarcity of players with that 3-down skill set.

Regardless, they should be able to address LB, CB, C, or LG in the draft.

Realistically he should go in the range the Chiefs are picking, but there will be that one team that will take him too early with no plan. Happens every time.

RunKC 12-21-2019 10:53 AM

You’d think Corner will be our first pick due to the importance, but the FA class at that position is loaded with decent players that could be had for cheap ala Breeland, so who knows.

I would love the Wisconsin kid, but honestly I’d like to trade down and gain a 3rd and still be able to get a good talent like Creed Humphrey with an extra top 100 pick.

I agree with DJ in regards to just getting the BPA bc we could use that in most places on the team. Basically anywhere applies for or 1st pick outside of QB, OT and S.

Keep an eye on DL. Probably won’t be able to afford Ogbah, Tanoh is in his last year and Speaks is only here based on draft status/Veach’s pride. Spags loves having a deep DL rotation and Andy loves fatties.

O.city 12-21-2019 12:02 PM

I just hate trading out of the first and losing that fifth year option

If you could say grab another 2nd to go back I’d think about it though.


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