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Hog's Gone Fishin 05-01-2011 10:08 AM

The article stated also that Tim Tebow was rated the same as Ryan Leaf ROFL

baitism 05-01-2011 10:09 AM

I guess we better buy him some throwing gloves.

Arsonist 05-01-2011 10:10 AM

Ben Roethlisberger just rapes chicks in bathrooms now :thumb:

notorious 05-01-2011 10:24 AM

Drafting a QB is like pulling a slot machine handle. We all know that nothing will probably come out of it, but maybe, just MAYBE we will finally hit that jackpot.


That is what makes drafting a QB exciting.

Dave Lane 05-01-2011 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Coogs (Post 7611151)
I remember this as well. And, for the record, Stanzi passed on the Wonderlic Score that was in question in the article.

I guess the ending of the article would now mean we must be included in the "Smart Teams" category from now on? :hmmm:

He scored a 30 on the wonderlic

Hog's Gone Fishin 05-01-2011 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Dave Lane (Post 7611213)
He scored a 30 on the wonderlic

What's the score range ? I assume that's good.

Hog's Gone Fishin 05-01-2011 10:56 AM

I googled. Nevermind. Stanzi is smart.

The Wonderlic Cognitive Ability Test (formerly known as the Wonderlic Personnel Test (WPT)) is a twelve-minute, fifty-question test used to assess the aptitude of prospective employees for learning and problem-solving in a range of occupations. The test was developed by industrial psychologist Eldon F. Wonderlic.[1] The score is calculated as the number of correct answers given in the allotted time. A score of 20 is intended to indicate average intelligence (corresponding to an intelligence quotient of 100; a rough conversion is accomplished via the following formula: IQ = 2WPT + 60.[citation needed] A new version was released in January 2007 called the Wonderlic Contemporary Cognitive Ability Test (formerly known as the Wonderlic Personnel Test – Revised). It contains questions more appropriate to the 21st century and is available both online and in printed form, whereas the original test is only available on paper.

Hog's Gone Fishin 05-01-2011 11:00 AM

Predictor of success in the NFLJohn P. Lopez of Sports Illustrated proposes a 26-27-60 rule to predict a quarterback's success in the NFL: At least a 26 on the Wonderlic, at least 27 college starts, and at least 60% pass completion, and lists several examples of successes and failures based on the rule.[15]

On the other hand, some well-known players have scored low on the test. Dan Marino and Vince Young both scored 16 on the test, though Young scored a 6 on his first attempt.[7] A 2005 study by McDonald Mirabile found that there is no significant correlation between Wonderlic scores and a quarterback's passer rating, and no significant correlation between Wonderlic scores and a quarterback's salary.[16] Similarly, a 2009 study by Brian D. Lyons, Brian J. Hoffman, and John W. Michel found that Wonderlic test scores failed to positively and significantly predict future NFL performance for any position.[17]

The Lyons study also found that the relationship between Wonderlic test scores and future NFL performance was negative for a few positions, indicating the higher a player scores on the Wonderlic test, the worse the player will perform in the NFL.[17][18] Mike Florio of Profootballtalk.com observes that

scoring too high can be as much of a problem as scoring too low. Football coaches want to command the locker room. Being smarter than the individual players makes that easier. Having a guy in the locker room who may be smarter than every member of the coaching staff can be viewed as a problem — or at a minimum as a threat to the egos of the men who hope to be able when necessary to outsmart the players, especially when trying in some way to manipulate them.[19] :LOL:
McInally, whom the Cincinnati Bengals selected in the fifth round of the 1975 NFL Draft, believes that his perfect score caused him to be selected later than he would have otherwise

Hog's Gone Fishin 05-01-2011 11:05 AM

http://www.palmbeachpost.com/sports/...ic-339371.html


:LOL: ROFL :LOL:

notorious 05-01-2011 11:05 AM

Stanzi is the player that has me really excited.


QB is the one component that can either take this team to the promise land or leave it in mediocrity. All of the other picks are just pieces.

notorious 05-01-2011 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Hog Farmer (Post 7611256)
Having a guy in the locker room who may be smarter than every member of the coaching staff can be viewed as a problem — or at a minimum as a threat to the egos of the men who hope to be able when necessary to outsmart the players,


Herm Edwards problem wrapped in a nutshell.

alnorth 05-01-2011 11:36 AM

Cool, a 30 on a wonderlic means he's decently smart. Not a genius PHD physicist, but a lot smarter than an average person off the street, maybe a 115-120 IQ.

According to the math nerds, scoring really high doesn't necessarily mean you'll succeed, its a "weed-out" measurement where if you score low (Tebow) then you are far more likely to bust. A 30 doesn't mean great things in the future, it just means "Great, you passed, you are smart enough to be an NFL QB, now lets move on to the next test".

siberian khatru 05-01-2011 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by notorious (Post 7611269)
Herm Edwards problem wrapped in a nutshell.

In that case, Herm must've felt like Custer at Little Bighorn.

alnorth 05-01-2011 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Hog Farmer (Post 7611256)
On the other hand, some well-known players have scored low on the test. Dan Marino and Vince Young both scored 16 on the test, though Young scored a 6 on his first attempt

One theory on that, is way back then they didn't take it seriously and blew it off. They got drafted anyway.

Now, if you screw up the wonderlic you lose millions. Most major QB prospects work with mental coaches who try to teach them how to score high on the test, and they take practice tests. So a lot of these guys are now trying as hard as they can to score higher than a 25-26. If you are really trying and still score below a 25 today, then that may be indicative of not being smart enough to handle the position.

bevischief 05-01-2011 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by SNR (Post 7610862)
Speaking of swashbuckling, did I ever tell you fellas about the time I had a gay crush on Errol Flynn?

what?ROFL


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