In case you want to feel disrespected
 

It isn't easy to find disrespect these days, most have finally woken up about what we've been saying since the Chiefs drafted Mahomes.


Well I found precisely ONE power ranking that doesn't have the Chiefs #1.

https://sports.yahoo.com/nfl-power-r...053847579.html



HOW DARE YOU

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Put it on the chalkboard

We're the new Patriots



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Power Rankings in the NFL are so useless.

It's Yahoo.

They're like the Us Weekly of internet sports.

**** THEM!!!!! IM PISED OF!!!!!

Lamar Jackson sure does get his dick sucked quite a bit for a guy that’s choked two year in a row in the playoffs.

Could you imagine if Mahomes were 0-2 in the playoffs and they were the 2 worst games of his career?

Power rankings are as worthless as C-19 masks. Don't waste your time.:rolleyes:

The Ravens played great. I can't imagine anyone having a problem here.

One? Colin Cowherd doesn't have us at 1. How much research did you really do OP?

CBS had Steelers at #4, Ravens at #5..it's all click-bait.

Cowherd has the Ravens #1 with the Chiefs #2.

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The Chiefs were in cruise control mode for almost the entire 4th quarter. They had nothing to prove, no chip on their collective shoulders. Had they wanted to run up the score further, they would have. They clearly didn't give a shit.

The Ravens are pissed, and definitely have something to prove. They did run the score up. They pissed pounded the lowly Browns. Bless their hearts. They should put it on a t-shirt.

Yahoo Sports...

EL - OH - EL

Doesn't mean that they are "wrong" or "disrespectful" here. Ravens, Chiefs, and Steelers all looked really good.

LET’S GO TO YAHOO AND SHIT ON THEIR FACES!!!

Harbaugh was doing that shit all last season too. The Ravens love to run up the score and stat pad. It’s going to get Lamar hurt one of these days.

Well, it's Yahoo! - so that says it all.........

If I see a Yahoo out in the streets you know I'm gonna catch a charge!!!

The Ravens ALWAYS look good, even when they don't. They're the new Patriots.

Yep.

Ok. Fair enough.

The Kansas City Chiefs are the current champions; some would say they should be ranked #1 until they lose, especially considering 18 of 22 starters returned if I am not mistaken.

The Ravens, with the current league MVP, have not defeated the Chiefs the past two seasons. They were underwhelming when it counted most (playoffs).

To quote Richard Morgan Fliehr; “To be the man...you gotta beat the man.”

Oh I don't need Yahoo to feel disrespected. lol

Frank Clark saw that power ranking and bit the head off a live chicken, spit it out, and with blood gushing down his chin, threatened, “Tyrod Taylor. I am coming for you.”

I feel more disrespect, by being called the new patriots. That's lower than maggots in maggot poop

With one s

EXACTLY.

Lamar is a great player and played essentially perfect this past weekend, so I'll just tip my cap to him. It's gonna be a heck of a battle with him in 2 weeks.

The bigger insult is PFF grades. Prescott & Brady both graded above 80. Deshaun (while stat-padding in a blowout loss) graded above 70. Mahomes graded below 70. Laughable.

Lamar is a unique player. He's not a "great" player. **** that noise.

My point is that, yes Lamar Jackson is a decent player, but how can they rank them as #1 when they have choked and haven't even won a single playoff game in the Lamar era?

Yay!!! They are regular season Champions, then in the post-season they shit the bed.

Yep.

Sounds familiar.

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I'm going to guess that the ranking is largely based off of this season and the perceived talent on the rosters.

You can't just completely disregard past history though. Especially when between the Chiefs and the playoffs, Baltimore is 0-4 the last two years.

That would be like disregarding Philip Rivers' penchant for throwing games away when ranking the Colts. Look how that turned out.

There has to be at least some context.

That's true. I'm just not sure what I would identify as a weakness for the Ravens, outside of recent playoff success, and this is CLEARLY a regular-season ranking.

Similar to the Chiefs, they somehow improved in the offseason.

It’s the Baltimore Chargers.

The weakness for the Ravens is that they're dependent on the script. They're built to pound out a lead. If that doesn't happen, they have to change everything and it doesn't work that well against good teams when you have an offense that's essentially designed around a gimmick (I don't want to diminish Lamar's skills too much but I can't think of a better word).

They're a really good team but they depend on everything going the way they want. They're used to imposing their will and if that doesn't work, things get shifty.

It's only week 1 anyway. Last season started this way too. We all know the Chiefs are a better team. I just wish I could watch sports coverage without having to hear about Lamar Jackson (or Cam Newton) the entire time.

I’m not worried about the Ravens in the least:

HC: Slight advantage Chiefs
QB: Significant advantage Chiefs
WR: Advantage Chiefs
TE: Advantage Chiefs
RB: Ravens have the depth advantage, but Chiefs have the starter advantage
OL: Slight advantage Ravens
DL: Advantage Chiefs
LB: Significant advantage Ravens
CB: Slight advantage Ravens
S: Significant advantage Chiefs

ST: Push

Chiefs are better in many ways. I don’t see anyway that an average pass rush and shit safeties even come close to slowing down Mahomes.

I'm not clicking through this shit, **** you for posting this clickbait shit.

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Reid is way better than Harbaugh.

Why do people keep saying the Ravens are pissed?

They get more media love than like anyone. Practically no one in the national media even dares to question Lamar Jackson as a passer even though he’s been beyond terrible in both of his playoff games (losses).

Even if they are pissed, who are they pissed at? They’re the ones that got obliterated by a team that we proceeded to curb stomp. Are they wanting respect to be given to them? How about they just go out and not suck ****ing dick in the playoffs for once?

I was being generous

What people?

Now close your eyes and picture having one of the worst games of your career but still leading your team from 10 points down with 9 minutes left to win the Super Bowl and being voted SB MVP.

The doorknobs at Yahoo had the Ravens at #1 before the season even started.
They created their initial power rankings a few months after watching the Chiefs come back from double digit deficits 3 times (and end up winning with a double digit lead in each game) in the post season to win the Championship while the Ravens fell flat on their faces. With these facts in front of them, they felt informed enough to label the Chiefs as the inferior team of the two.

The writer is just trying to get people talking about something he wrote.
He either fully understands that the Chiefs are superior to the Ravens and he's just trying to create a buzz OR he couldn't accurately describe the shape or color of a football.

If someone is forceful enough, people will fall in lockstep. Ballless ****s

BAH HOW DAR U SAY THAT RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE /dipshits on sports talk shows

At this point I'm willing to grant Lamar this:

He has an incredible W-L (regular season) record. Prior to him taking over, the Ravens did NOT have a great W-L (regular season) record under Flacco, and people were talking about Harbaugh losing his job at the end of the year.

I honestly chalk this up to Lamar playing very Alex Smithy. No, they're not the same player at all, but in terms of the formula for managing a game and racking up regular season wins even if there are imperfections to your surrounding team? Absolutely. Take care of the football (Lamar does a pretty good job of that, actually) be efficient on offense (safe to say that they are) and if he's got the wheels, your QB can do great things for you by scrambling when things are locked up in coverage. Those are all things Joe Flacco was NOT doing prior to Lamar taking over, and it's why the Ravens found a lot of success immediately after they benched Flacco in Lamar's rookie season, even if Lamar at the time was barely more effective than Tyler Palko as a passer.

I also know Lamar isn't some Baker Mayfield choad who doesn't put in the time. He's improved as a passer since he took over the starting job, and that's not at all something to sneeze at. It's really tough to improve at something like that in the pros. No, I'm not talking about technical things like footwork and understanding coverages and all that other stuff just about every young QB improves at when they get in the league. I mean that Lamar improved his deep ball accuracy significantly, and he reduced the number of short-mid throws that sail on him dramatically. Deshaun Watson still has that problem.

But... yeah, we all know what comes next, though. That's winning football for the regular season. In the playoffs you can win with that if things go your way.... if the defense is crap, that is. Or if the opposing offense can't get the ball moving at all. Tennessee had a decent defense and by the end of the season with Tannehill they found their own efficiency on offense, and that's why they were able to play ball control against Lamar. Because as good as the Ravens were at scoring points on offense, they couldn't do it quickly if the defense didn't give it to them. Lamar couldn't do it quickly. Hell, Lamar couldn't score at all, basically.

So as much as I like to throw shade at Lamar, he's not terrible. Hell, I'll even say he's quite good. And he could still improve and probably will. But he is a CLEAR step behind Patrick Mahomes, and I don't know if he will ever catch up. Hell, he's a clear step behind Russell Wilson, too, and while Aaron Rodgers was doing nothing more than torching a brand new practically all-rookie secondary in Minnesota last week, he looked pretty damn good as well, and certainly from his prime is a much much much more valuable QB to lead your team than Lamar.

It's possible to win a Super Bowl with Lamar Jackson as your QB. But it's an uphill battle, and if you choose that route, you better be stacked as a team. It appears the Ravens have a lot of great players to do that, but until they beat Mahomes, they're 2nd place and not good enough.

Lamar deserves a lot of credit for his improvement the last few years. It’s extremely impressive. He has proven a lot of people wrong. I would not bet against him at this point.

I hope were ranked 32. Fuel that Mahomes fire!

Harbaugh deserves a lot of credit for completely revamping the offense to fit Lamar's specific skillset. He's a gadget player. He's a good gadget play but he's still a gadget player.

I think he deserves more respect than that. He's a far more accurate passer than guys like Vick or Kaepernick. It will be interesting to see what he does if Greg Roman gets a head coaching job somewhere else in the near future. I think Roman's playcalling is pretty darn underrated.

Sorry, but I'm sick to death of the Lamar Jackson hype. Get back to me when he actually puts the team on his back in a big game and doesn't collapse.

Not saying I agree with it, but some might say the ravens are a more complete team especially while we're missing breeland, ward, and Pennel. It probably has a lot more to do with a defense comparison. I think most know without question we have the better offense.

I know you're tired of it, but the guy has had an insane amount of improvement in throwing the ball from when he was drafted. He's got a good supporting cast and very good coaches. I doubt Mahomes & Reid will have a 100% win rate against these guys over the next 5+ years. If they are able to pull it off, then more power to them. It's setting up to be a pretty good rivalry.

Agreed.

THANKS OBAMA! THIS IS ALL YOUR FAULT!

The vibe around Ravens-Chiefs feels similar to early Colts-Pats. Everyone knew Pats were better but people had to talk up Manning despite his epic playoff chokes. It took a very long time before they started beating the Pats who already had three rings by then. But the key was that Pats got the 1 or 2 playoff seeds regularly so Manning would destruct even before he got to play the Pats. It also helps that we don't have a Pittsburgh in the AFCW while we are looking at 6-0 even before the season starts. It will be interesting to see if Lamar even wins the division consistently.

Lamar Jackson will be breaking down in 5 years if he keeps playing like this. The dude is a glorified RB. He's averaging over 10 carries per game over his first 2 seasons.

He also has 21 fumbles in his career but only 4 lost. That's not going to continue if they keep running this offense. The ball will eventually bounce unfairly.

The big difference between the Pats and Colts and this thing is that Manning had the longevity to withstand the early Patriot dominance and get his.

It remains to be seen if Jackson's body can actually do this long-term.

I've seen Lamar fans that think he's Michael Jordan due to his electric athleticism (similar to when MJ looked like an absolute freak in the mid to late 1980's) and when he finally breaks through in the playoffs, it will be an avalanche of dominant success.

I think they underestimate Mahomes. If Larry Bird was an obstacle for early Jordan, Bird was also old and broken down by the time Jordan started winning big. Mahomes is a more talented and younger version of Bird. He's extremely skilled with insane vision and hand-eye coordination like Bird was and he also has very similar leadership ability and competitive drive to Bird. But he's got more athleticism in his game. Can he run like Lamar? No, but his scrambling ability is good enough to keep plays alive and torch any defense (no matter how good they are). And Pat is young as hell. He will be in Lamar's way for a long, long time.

I think your Peyton & Brady comparison is a pretty good one. From a physical gift standpoint, Mahomes is a lot more talented than Brady and Lamar is a lot more talented than Manning. The only wild card here is that Lamar has the far younger coach on his side over the long haul. Not sure how long Andy will keep going, and who knows how good the replacement will be when the time comes.

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Thanks for letting us know what device you use to post your useless garbage opinions


**** you

I'll go on record right now, I have no reservations.

Pat will play at least 5 more seasons than Jackson.

I saw Josh Briscoe was upset about the Chiefs running the ball so much the other day. I love to watch Pat make plays with his arm as much as anyone, but you know what I would love more than anything? For him to avoid taking too many hits. It would be awesome if Patrick could play to age 45 like Brady. A strong OL and run game can really take some of the pressure off Mahomes, so I loved seeing Clyde and the OL perform like they did on Thursday.

Jaguars game last year is the one I always think about. Mahomes torched them in the air, but he took a ton of big hits. Pass rush was on him pretty quick in that game. I much rather see the Chiefs have a more balanced offense like we saw last Thursday and help prevent those type of big hits to Mahomes' body. As long as they are winning, that is the only thing that matters. Lamar can have all the regular season awards and fancy stats like Peyton.

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Harbaugh bragging about his idiot QB almost getting a concussion from three angles missed by half a second on this play.




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One day soon these misses are going to be hits and he's going to get scrambled eggs

Yep. He's slippery, I get that. But he's not going to make them miss every time.

With his body type and frame, one awkward hit and he's done for.

And like I said, even if his body can hold up, he has 21 rushing fumbles already in 2 seasons but only 4 lost. The ball isn't always going to bounce his way.

It's just like the fact they had so few injuries last year. They're a REALLY GOOD team, I get that. But they've literally had EVERYTHING go their way so far.

Pat was out 3 games and the Chiefs won the Super Bowl. The Ravens had the stars align and got beaten like a red-headed stepchild by a Martyball team.

To your point about the bad bounces on fumbles, I believe there was a Lamar fumble recovered by Titans in the playoff game if I am remembering it right. He had about 5 turnovers in that game when you include failed attempts to run the ball with him on 4th and short.

Probably the biggest knock I have on Lamar is that he sort of pouted on the bench during that playoff game, while Mahomes was firing up his teammates. Baltimore was never down 24-0 in their game. The difference in leadership is pretty striking. Lamar fans say he's an incredible leader. Maybe that's true most of the time, but the camera footage we saw on the sideline of that Titans playoff game looked pretty bad to me.

I've said it before and I'll say it again. One of the more underrated things about Patrick is his enormously positive attitude at all times. He lost a ton of ballgames in college and always remained very positive/supportive of his teammates & coaches. In a way, all those shootout losses in college were great preparation for the adversity you deal with in the NFL.

It's not always going to be perfect. But he finds a way to remain positive and influences his teammates. As a result, KC has always managed to scratch and claw their way back into ballgames even when they get off to a rough start.

Same as it was for every running qb. There will be defenses that can contain you (like kc used to do to Vick). There will be games where you have to play catchup or when the opposing team forces you to play outside your gameplan (for Baltimore it's run it down your throat on long brutal drives). Steve Young overcame that. I have not seen lamar do this consistently

These qbs may dominate for the majority of games. But they aren't built to consistently win in big games. I'll take our guy any day of the week

Yep. Great post.

It's the difference between playing on a perennial loser and playing for a former mid-major powerhouse and winning a Heisman Trophy. By the time Jackson entered the NFL, he had already won ELEVEN awards and was recognized as one of the best players in college football. He never really had to experience failure, definitely not the long spates of losing that Mahomes had to endure.

That Ravens team is built to shoot of the gate and dominate. When that doesn't happen, things get dicey quick for them.

Like I said before, Lamar threw up a couple of prayers against KC last year, one which was caught in spectacular fashion and the other resulting in a controversial DPI (that could have gone the other way), or that game isn't even close. KC was up 31-13 at the end of the 3rd.

I couldn't believe that Falcons game when it happened in 2004. One of the worst NFL defenses I've ever seen against one of the most electrifying QBs I've ever seen. And they shut him the F down. I think we won 56-7 and before the game I figured it would be a 56-49 game.

The first thing I noticed last year (I was at the game) was how disciplined the DE's were. Despite the fact that the defense was suspect through the first 3 weeks and we now know in hindsight that Clark was hurting, the DE's stayed put and held the edge.

Jackson averaged 6.9ypc last year. The Chiefs in week 4 held him to 5.8ypc. The only thing that even kept them from getting completely blown out was that the Chiefs couldn't stop Ingram.

If the DT's can improve on giving up 16 carries for 103 yards to the RB1 and Spags' can do what he did last year, the Chiefs are going to crush them.

Another example is the AFC title game against Patriots. Mahomes had an awful first half against the GOAT defensive coach. At halftime, he allegedly told the team they would drop 30 on Belichick in the second half. And he went out there, played lights out in super freezing cold weather...dropped 30 on them just like he said he would. That same Belichick defense later held a 30 point per game Rams team to only 3 points total in the Super Bowl.

In my opinion, things did not look so hopeless for the Ravens at halftime against Tennessee like it did for Mahomes in that Patriots game. On top of Belichick's defense doing a great job, he also had to overcome a GOAT level QB for the Patriots against a terrible Chiefs defense. Lamar was going against friggin Ryan Tannehill, and that 2019 Baltimore defense was a lot better than the 2018 Chiefs defense. For whatever reason, Lamar and his teammates just could not get it figured out in the 2nd half.

If Lamar really is Michael Jordan like they say, then the clutch performances in the playoffs need to start happening very soon. Jordan dropped 60+ on the Celtics with no one supporting him in a losing effort early in his playoff career. Personally, I think Mahomes' performances against New England, Houston, Tennessee, and even the Niners look a hell of a lot more like Michael Jordan. The ability to flip a switch when things were going very bad. It's an extremely unique trait. We've seen it from Brady many times, including that GOAT level comeback on the Falcons. We've seen it from Rodgers many times. We've seen it from Mahomes quite a few times in his early career already.

While people rave about how Lamar is improving as a passer they don't acknowledge enough about how Mahomes is also improving. He is already shedding some gunslinger traits and is starting to take whatever the defense is giving him. In a few years he would have seen every type of coverage and when combined with his work ethic, memory and recall, his team will be favored in every game.
For Lamar it is more important to get over the mental hump asap. The longer this goes on the more difficult it becomes. Even if his playing style does not change significantly the prospect of choking in the playoffs will weigh in more heavily than anything else.

The longer it takes Lamar to develop his passing skills, the longer he continues to run when plays break down. The longer they HAVE to use him as a runner to mix things up.

I just don't see how the Ravens model is sustainable. This is who Jackson is, for better or worse.

I don't know maybe it has to do with the Ravens have lost to KC each time they have played including last year in a not particularly close game, Lamar hasn't made it to even 1 AFCCG and the Chiefs are the reigning SB Champs?

And we as Chiefs fans knew that BEFORE we got Mahomes.


That's why that first draft profile that Soren eventually read aloud on the air was so meaningful. Everything in that was exactly what the Chiefs were missing all those years. We knew it is what you need to get playoff wins because we saw Elway and Peyton do it to us for decades

I think there is evidence of him turning into more of a passer. Last year he averaged 12 carries per game. This past Sunday only had 7 carries. Defenses will always have to worry about his speed as a runner. Cleveland sold out to stop the run and he torched them through the air. Granted, it's Cleveland. But the point still stands that if he runs the ball 7 times per game and they keep winning big, then I think you have to tip your cap and give him credit for changing his game. Guess we'll see how it goes as the season plays out.