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Deberg_1990 01-23-2013 08:03 AM

Matt Flynn rumors: Seahawks would reportedly trade QB
 
http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2013/1/2...umors-seahwaks


http://twitter.com/JasonColeYahoo/st...82142142918656

Seattle Seahawks quarterback Matt Flynn's strange season — in which he went from presumed starter in Seattle to backup to one of the season's best story lines — has ended, and not surprisingly, trade talks have swirled around Flynn ever since the Seahawks' season ended.


Not backing down from the rumors, Seattle has reportedly informed Flynn that he indeed is on the trading block and the Seahawks are willing to part ways with the remaining two years of his contract.

But for the many teams in need of an upgrade at the quarterback position, Seattle's quarterback situation has actually convinced other teams to avoid talking potential trades.
Rookie Russell Wilson notably gave the Seahawks a viable, cheap and exciting new face to the franchise at quarterback, and Flynn never really got a chance to prove his worth after signing a three-year, $19.5-million contract in March 2012.

Now, with the option to either trade or cut Flynn, many teams expect Seattle to simple cut the quarterback, opening up the chase for the former backup to Aaron Rodgers with the Green Bay Packers without any team having to send Seattle anything in return.

Teams who are likely interested in keeping as much of the draft picks and young talent that they currently have while pursuing other options at quarterback would certainly prefer to sign Flynn on the open market as opposed to having to give up anything in return.

Flynn, who originally attracted much of the attention pointed his way during a Week 17 start against the Detroit Lions to close out the 2011 season, could land with a number of teams next season, either as a starter or a trustworthy backup.

Teams interested in Flynn in either a starting or backup role could include the New York Jets, Cleveland Browns and the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, which all missed the playoffs in 2012 and could be looking for a change of tone in their offenses.

pr_capone 01-23-2013 08:05 AM

Do Not Want

WV 01-23-2013 08:07 AM

No thank you to him or Alex Cassel Smith.

Shox 01-23-2013 08:17 AM

I bet they would like to trade him. No team can look at him as an obvious starter which makes his 5.25 million contract next year (not sure about the following) far to expensive. Hawks might as well just cut him loose now and get the pain over with.

htismaqe 01-23-2013 08:20 AM

Of course they're willing to trade him, in this QB-starved NFL, they might be able to get more out of him than they paid, even though he NEVER TOOK A SNAP.

OmahaChief 01-23-2013 08:21 AM

I see another Scott Mitchell / Matt Cassel turnout for Flynn if he is traded.

Ace Gunner 01-23-2013 08:23 AM

He threw 6 TD's during a regular season NFL game. I'd give him a look too if I were Dorsey/Reid.
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Deberg_1990 01-23-2013 08:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 9343764)
Of course they're willing to trade him, in this QB-starved NFL, they might be able to get more out of him than they paid, even though he NEVER TOOK A SNAP.

I dont see anyone trading for him with that contract. Ill bet they cut him, then someone brings him in.

htismaqe 01-23-2013 08:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Buzz_TinBalls (Post 9343772)
He threw 6 TD's during a regular season NFL game. I'd give him a look too if I were Dorsey/Reid.
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NO

dirk digler 01-23-2013 08:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WV (Post 9343739)
No thank you to him or Alex Cassel Smith.

Definitely this. I am tired of getting every teams backups.

BigMeatballDave 01-23-2013 08:37 AM

If Flynn is let go, I'd have no problem with the Chiefs signing him to back-up whoever they draft #1.

rageeumr 01-23-2013 08:52 AM

No one has ever made more money off one game than Matt Flynn.

I wouldn't be excited about a trade or paying his salary, but I trust Dorsey's opinion of the kid. He's seen a hell of a lot more of him than I have.

Ace Gunner 01-23-2013 08:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave (Post 9343786)
If Flynn is let go, I'd have no problem with the Chiefs signing him to back-up whoever they draft #1.

He is still under contract until 2015. I would expect the Chiefs will get a veteran WCO type QB in here as BUQB, that would be a guy like Flynn. Thing is, they'd have to trade for him. So then you get into scenarios where you have to justify the trade, maybe use him for a season or two to groom your Geno pick, plug him in later.

But what other WCO type QB's are available? matt hasselbeck is too old, Vick isn't that good. I suppose you could get one of those guys and start Geno, hope you never have to play your BUQB.

Carlota69 01-23-2013 08:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buzz_TinBalls (Post 9343813)
He is still under contract until 2015. I would expect the Chiefs will get a veteran WCO type QB in here as BUQB, that would be a guy like Flynn. Thing is, they'd have to trade for him. So then you get into scenarios where you have to justify the trade, maybe use him for a season or two to groom your Geno pick, plug him in later.

But what other WCO type QB's are available? matt hasselbeck is too old, Vick isn't that good. I suppose you could get one of those guys and start Geno, hope you never have to play your BUQB.

If the Seahawks cut him, then that's the time to go after him. A trade would be unnecessary.

Ace Gunner 01-23-2013 09:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Carlota69 (Post 9343820)
If the Seahawks cut him, then that's the time to go after him. A trade would be unnecessary.

Why do you say the Hawks will cut him. He's being shopped according to rumors. Not sure if anyone is going to make a deal for him as a starter though, and that's where the rub is.

If they don't find a trade partner, he'll BU Wilson, that's what he's doing now.

Rexx 01-23-2013 09:11 AM

If Flynn is indeed cut, I would be surprised if the Chiefs didn't show interest considering the ties to Dorsey. Personally, I would love to have Flynn but as a backup only. Or perhaps to compete for a starting position if our drafted QB falls on his face early.

Chief Gump 01-23-2013 09:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buzz_TinBalls (Post 9343837)
Why do you say the Hawks will cut him. He's being shopped according to rumors. Not sure if anyone is going to make a deal for him as a starter though, and that's where the rub is.

If they don't find a trade partner, he'll BU Wilson, that's what he's doing now.

You don't pay a backup that kinda cash. They will cut him if they don't find a trade partner and they probably won't find one.

siberian khatru 01-23-2013 09:58 AM

So Flynn as our No. 1, JaMarcus "Leaner and Meaner" Russell No. 2 and take a flyer on a project in Rounds 5-7?

Done.

FloridaMan88 01-23-2013 10:01 AM

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Sorter 01-23-2013 10:04 AM

I don't think Flynn would come here knowing we're likely going to use our #1 overall on a QB. Guy wants to start, not go into the exact situation he's leaving.

Bewbies 01-23-2013 10:05 AM

In other related news, the Kansas City Chiefs would also be interested in trading Cassel and Quinn, but find themselves in the 'no chance in hell' category that Seattle finds itself in with Flynn.

DTLB58 01-23-2013 10:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WV (Post 9343739)
No thank you to him or Alex Cassel Smith.

Bingo.

I'm really scared they bring Smith here. :shake:

Reerun_KC 01-23-2013 10:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DTLB58 (Post 9343972)
Bingo.

I'm really scared they bring Smith here. :shake:

As they should... Get all the STH to renew, insert junk QB, no risk, no reward = happy Chiefs fanbase.

Fire Me Boy! 01-23-2013 10:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave (Post 9343786)
If Flynn is let go, I'd have no problem with the Chiefs signing him to back-up whoever they draft #1.

That's a terrible idea. Flynn would be an awful backup LT.

Mr. Flopnuts 01-23-2013 10:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buzz_TinBalls (Post 9343837)
Why do you say the Hawks will cut him. He's being shopped according to rumors. Not sure if anyone is going to make a deal for him as a starter though, and that's where the rub is.

If they don't find a trade partner, he'll BU Wilson, that's what he's doing now.

No, he's not. Pete is going to try and find another Russ Wilson in the draft, so they don't have to change their offense if Russell goes down. He wants to run that read option. Heard that on Seattle sports talk radio just yesterday.

KCFaninSEA 01-23-2013 10:11 AM

If the Seachickens can't trade him he will stay there. What they pay combined for Wilson and Flynn is very manageable. They also are in good position cap wise. Paul Allen is the owner so money isn't an issue. I think the differences in styles is what is driving discussions. If Wilson got hurt Flynn couldn't run that style of offense nearly as well.

Frosty 01-23-2013 10:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts (Post 9343977)
No, he's not. Pete is going to try and find another Russ Wilson in the draft, so they don't have to change their offense if Russell goes down. He wants to run that read option. Heard that on Seattle sports talk radio just yesterday.

Matt Scott from Arizona would be a good fit for them.

KC_Lee 01-23-2013 10:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bewbies (Post 9343970)
In other related news, the Kansas City Chiefs would also be interested in trading Cassel and Quinn, but find themselves in the 'no chance in hell' category that Seattle finds itself in with Flynn.

Yeah this. Due to Flynn's contract no team will trade a pick for him.

BigMeatballDave 01-23-2013 10:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frosty (Post 9343982)
Matt Scott from Arizona would be a good fit for them.

That name is EVIL!

Mr. Flopnuts 01-23-2013 10:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frosty (Post 9343982)
Matt Scott from Arizona would be a good fit for them.

That's exactly who I think Pete is going to take. When?

Sorter 01-23-2013 10:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCFaninSEA (Post 9343980)
If the Seachickens can't trade him he will stay there. What they pay combined for Wilson and Flynn is very manageable. They also are in good position cap wise. Paul Allen is the owner so money isn't an issue. I think the differences in styles is what is driving discussions. If Wilson got hurt Flynn couldn't run that style of offense nearly as well.

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Frosty 01-23-2013 10:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts (Post 9343995)
That's exactly who I think Pete is going to take. When?

I'd guess 4th round unless his stock shoots up after the Combine. Of course, Seattle has shown they'll reach for players they want.

Mr. Flopnuts 01-23-2013 10:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frosty (Post 9344003)
I'd guess 4th round unless his stock shoots up after the Combine. Of course, Seattle has shown they'll reach for players they want.

Exactly what I was getting at. I think Pete is going to take him in the 2nd round.

Molitoth 01-23-2013 10:26 AM

Flynn has such a small sample size of NFL play that Seattle way overpaid for him.
Flynn is a much larger unknown than Matt Cassel was.

NO to FLYNN.

Frosty 01-23-2013 10:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts (Post 9344011)
Exactly what I was getting at. I think Pete is going to take him in the 2nd round.

It will be a late 2nd and all but that seems high for Scott.

Fat Elvis 01-23-2013 10:35 AM

I'd give the comp pick we get for Carr to trade for Flynn if he agrees to restructure his contract. He's a backup QB--and we need one. Cassel and Quinn (not to mention Stanzi) don't even cut that mustard.

Edit: This, of course, is assuming that he isn't cut outright.

milkman 01-23-2013 10:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rageeumr (Post 9343812)

I wouldn't be excited about a trade or paying his salary, but I trust Pioli's opinion of the kid. He's seen a hell of a lot more of him than I have.

FYP to reflect those that were posted 4 years ago.

milkman 01-23-2013 10:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat Elvis (Post 9344044)
I'd give the comp pick we get for Carr to trade for Flynn if he agrees to restructure his contract. He's a backup QB--and we need one. Cassel and Quinn (not to mention Stanzi) don't even cut that mustard.

First....Hell no.

No way in hell I'd be okay with trading any picks.

Second, comp picks can not be traded per NFL rules.

The Franchise 01-23-2013 10:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buzz_TinBalls (Post 9343837)
Why do you say the Hawks will cut him. He's being shopped according to rumors. Not sure if anyone is going to make a deal for him as a starter though, and that's where the rub is.

If they don't find a trade partner, he'll BU Wilson, that's what he's doing now.

It was reported on Rotoworld that teams around the league don't think that the Seahawks have a chance in hell of trading them. They're waiting around for them to cut him because they don't want to pay Flynn $5 million to be a backup.

Fat Elvis 01-23-2013 10:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by milkman (Post 9344049)
First....Hell no.

No way in hell I'd be okay with trading any picks.

Second, comp picks can not be traded per NFL rules.

I did not know that. Thanks for the info.

I'd still give a 4th for him then, but that is just me. We're going to have to use two draft picks on QBs anyway if we get rid of both Cassel and Quinn. I want both of those guys off the team.

htismaqe 01-23-2013 10:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat Elvis (Post 9344060)
I did not know that. Thanks for the info.

I'd still give a 4th for him then, but that is just me. We're going to have to use two draft picks on QBs anyway if we get rid of both Cassel and Quinn. I want both of those guys off the team.

I'd rather use the 4th on a QB in the draft. Much, much more upside...

listopencil 01-23-2013 10:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave (Post 9343786)
If Flynn is let go, I'd have no problem with the Chiefs signing him to back-up whoever they draft #1.

That makes a lot of sense.

mcaj22 01-23-2013 10:52 AM

id rather use the 4th on drafting a starter at one of the many position holes on this crap team.

we will already be taking a QB in the first, no need for one in the 4th when we can still get a starter there.

DaKCMan AP 01-23-2013 10:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buzz_TinBalls (Post 9343772)
He threw 6 TD's during a regular season NFL game. I'd give him a look too if I were Dorsey/Reid.

sez stoopids

bevischief 01-23-2013 10:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat Elvis (Post 9344044)
I'd give the comp pick we get for Carr to trade for Flynn if he agrees to restructure his contract. He's a backup QB--and we need one. Cassel and Quinn (not to mention Stanzi) don't even cut that mustard.

Edit: This, of course, is assuming that he isn't cut outright.

You can't trade comp picks.

Dave Lane 01-23-2013 11:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fire Me Boy! (Post 9343976)
That's a terrible idea. Flynn would be an awful backup LT.

Try him at safety?

Carlota69 01-23-2013 11:08 AM

It seems like everyone says no to seemingly every possible available QB out there. Granted, I want a QB at #1 too, and a later round as well, but what veteran, or young QB with NFL experience do you suggest we go after?? We will need someone with experience on staff at QB. I certianly dont want all Rookies on the roster.

Flynn may be a back up, but his back up work has been pretty good. 10 million times better than what we have now. I dont get the problem with giving this guy a look IF he gets cut. Trade? eh, Id rather see whos on te market, but IF he hits the market? Why not?

DaKCMan AP 01-23-2013 11:12 AM

I don't think there's any chance in hell that Dorsey would trade for a backup QB. Matt Flynn is not a starting QB. If you think he is, or may be, then you're a moron and you can stop reading here. For those who are not idiots, at least in acknowledging Matt Flynn is not a starting QB, during Dorsey's tenure with GB the Packers had a pattern. They would acquire young, low-cost (i.e. late draft picks or FA acquisitions) backup QBs, develop them, and then let them go - either through trade, FA, or expansion draft.

See: Mark Brunell, Ty Detmer, Doug Pederson, Matt Hasselbeck, Matt Flynn

This leads me to believe that Dorsey will acquire his backup QB(s) later in the draft or through free agency - not through a trade.

Ace Gunner 01-23-2013 11:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCFaninSEA (Post 9343980)
If the Seachickens can't trade him he will stay there. What they pay combined for Wilson and Flynn is very manageable. They also are in good position cap wise. Paul Allen is the owner so money isn't an issue. I think the differences in styles is what is driving discussions. If Wilson got hurt Flynn couldn't run that style of offense nearly as well.

And who else could besides speedy guys that can throw. I am skeptical any NFL team will run a read option permanently because of what happened to RG3 and because you need a QB that can roll like Kap/SF etc.

They will make each of these passers into pocket QB's just like Reid did with McNabb.

Fritz88 01-23-2013 11:41 AM

I'd consider it if they'd take a 5th or a 6th for him. He has to agree to restructure his contract.

This does not mean not drafting a first round QB.

The more the merrier. He is surely an upgrade over all those we have now.

DaKCMan AP 01-23-2013 11:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fritz88 (Post 9344227)
I'd consider it if they'd take a 5th or a 6th for him.

Fail.

Titty Meat 01-23-2013 12:20 PM

I would be cool with Flynn as a backup.

Rausch 01-23-2013 12:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP (Post 9344142)
I don't think there's any chance in hell that Dorsey would trade for a backup QB. Matt Flynn is not a starting QB. If you think he is, or may be, then you're a moron and you can stop reading here. For those who are not idiots, at least in acknowledging Matt Flynn is not a starting QB, during Dorsey's tenure with GB the Packers had a pattern. They would acquire young, low-cost (i.e. late draft picks or FA acquisitions) backup QBs, develop them, and then let them go - either through trade, FA, or expansion draft.

See: Mark Brunell, Ty Detmer, Doug Pederson, Matt Hasselbeck, Matt Flynn

This leads me to believe that Dorsey will acquire his backup QB(s) later in the draft or through free agency - not through a trade.

Yup. His idea was to draft them low and sell them high.

Trade them - not trade for them...

Dayze 01-23-2013 12:31 PM

print 'em. / obligatory

Deberg_1990 01-23-2013 12:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 9344382)
Yup. His idea was to draft them low and sell them high.

Trade them - not trade for them...

They were also able to do this because they already had a franchise QB who never missed a game. They never had to spend a high pick on a QB.

Molitoth 01-23-2013 12:38 PM

Quote:

but what veteran, or young QB with NFL experience do you suggest we go after?? We will need someone with experience on staff at QB.
Draft Geno Smith, bring in Jason Campbell.

Trading picks away for a backup is ****ing stupid.

Carlota69 01-23-2013 12:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Molitoth (Post 9344416)
Draft Geno Smith, bring in Jason Campbell.

Trading picks away for a backup is ****ing stupid.

Did you notice I said IF he became available?? As In CUT from Seattle?? Im not saying trade for him. In fact, I say no to that. But if he hit the open market? I wouldnt mind Flynn as a backup in that scenario. Campbell? Eh, but at least you named a QB.

Molitoth 01-23-2013 12:48 PM

IF Flynn was cut, I wouldn't mind seeing him on the roster. That said, some team is going to be stupid enough to trade for him... just like the chiefs did with Cassel.

The problem with Flynn is that I doubt he is content with being a backup... and if he once again does not get a starting job, how much drama/split is that going to cause in the locker room chemistry? I think Jason Campbell knows by now, that he has had his chance, and being a backup/mentor to a young guy is his role.

I think Campbell would be a better mentor to Geno Smith than a feisty and competitive Flynn.

Then again, competition can be good.

It's a double edge sword.

Carlota69 01-23-2013 12:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Molitoth (Post 9344439)
IF Flynn was cut, I wouldn't mind seeing him on the roster. That said, some team is going to be stupid enough to trade for him... just like the chiefs did with Cassel.

You may be right. Cleveland comes to mind. Didnt they want him before Seattle took him? or even Miami...

Reerun_KC 01-23-2013 12:52 PM

610 blowing Matt Flynn...

Molitoth 01-23-2013 12:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reerun_KC (Post 9344452)
610 blowing Matt Flynn...

OMG HE THREW 6 TD's IN 1 GAME! OMG!!!!

ROFL

Reerun_KC 01-23-2013 12:55 PM

I am starting to realize that its pointless to be a Chiefs fan.

they want nothing more than to permanently suck.

DaKCMan AP 01-23-2013 12:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 9344410)
They were also able to do this because they already had a franchise QB who never missed a game. They never had to spend a high pick on a QB.

Yet in a 20 year period they drafted 2 QBs higher than the Chiefs ever did:

2008 2.56 Brian Brohm
2005 1.24 Aaron Rodgers

Chiefs
1992 2.40 Matt Bludin

Fat Elvis 01-23-2013 12:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Molitoth (Post 9344439)
IF Flynn was cut, I wouldn't mind seeing him on the roster. That said, some team is going to be stupid enough to trade for him... just like the chiefs did with Cassel.

The problem with Flynn is that I doubt he is content with being a backup... and if he once again does not get a starting job, how much drama/split is that going to cause in the locker room chemistry? I think Jason Campbell knows by now, that he has had his chance, and being a backup/mentor to a young guy is his role.

I think Campbell would be a better mentor to Geno Smith than a feisty and competitive Flynn.

Then again, competition can be good.

It's a double edge sword.

Hmmm. That whole "competition" (wink, wink, nod, nod) at the QB position has really worked out well for us in the past.

DaKCMan AP 01-23-2013 12:58 PM

I don't get the Jason Campbell love, either. The guy's never been good - anywhere. Even at Auburn in 2004 he was a game manager that rode the backs of Cadillac Williams & Ronnie Brown.

Molitoth 01-23-2013 01:02 PM

I'm just saying, if Geno Smith gets drafted #1... I think he should start day #1.
I don't want Flynn or some other teams leftovers taking snaps from our own project.

Russel Wilson, Luck, RG3, Cam Newton, Dalton, etc have all came out and helped turn thier franchise around day #1. Rodgers is the only one I can think of that rode the bench for awhile.

Prison Bitch 01-23-2013 01:05 PM

Would be surprised if he didn't end up in Arizona, although teams dont like to trade in division.

OrtonsPiercedTaint 01-23-2013 01:07 PM

The Seahawk depth chart does not show a third QB. Flynn can wear a headset and hold a clipboard at the same time. Impressive

Molitoth 01-23-2013 01:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 9344506)
Would be surprised if he didn't end up in Arizona, although teams dont like to trade in division.

I'm sure Seattle would be fine trading him in division, considering he was shitty enough to be benched over a 3rd round 5'9 draft pick.

2 teams have easily given up on Matt Flynn, (respectable teams).

If there was something special there, he would not be on the market.


It amazes me that Chiefs fans are obsessed with other teams scraps... especially coming from the Cassel era.

Easy 6 01-23-2013 01:12 PM

Not sure why there are so many saying NO... provided a QB is still taken at one, why be upset with any moves made to bolster that unit?

I would LOVE to see a "kitchen sink" philosophy in action, as i said in another thread... almost nothing should be considered over the top at that position.

Mr. Laz 01-23-2013 01:15 PM

He's a Foles situation type guy, bring him in as competition for a QB we draft.


Don't want to trade for him though because that locks us into his starter-ish contract.

Foles is still on his draftee contract

DaKCMan AP 01-23-2013 01:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scott free (Post 9344533)
Not sure why there are so many saying NO... provided a QB is still taken at one, why be upset with any moves made to bolster that unit?

I would LOVE to see a "kitchen sink" philosophy in action, as i said in another thread... almost nothing should be considered over the top at that position.

Because he sucks. Even as a backup.

Hammock Parties 01-23-2013 01:27 PM

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warpaint* 01-23-2013 01:52 PM

All his run based on performing albeit well in one game.

I'd be mildly interested as a FA to provide depth to augment a high draft pick who would be the future.


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