I just wish they'd do a Spawn remake. The first movie was garbage and the comic deserves a movie that can embrace, the dark, twisted world of Spawn.

Yep. They shouldn't fight, IMO. Plus, this is Snyder's first display of Superman. Why would you neuter your guy right away like that; with a human if at all? You're gonna show how bad ass he is in the first film then castrate him in front of the fans and movie-going world using a human with ninja skills? Superman would severely injure Batman (he wouldn't kill him, but injure him to the point he couldn't fight back) with one punch. Hell, he could just fly around him for endless hours taunting him thus causing Batman to be weak due to lack of food or water lol. Superman is faster than a SPEEDING BULLET...and Batman can drive fast in his Batmobile. He's an alien with super powers. I just have a hard time even wrapping my head around how he could get Kryptonite close to him. I know I gotta open up my box a little bit more but even in the comic book world it's ridiculous, or at least it should be.

This was kinda random.....

Superman vs Batman vs Spawn?

Spawn would wreck them from his magical powers.

Same with dr. Strange.

But supes would just need to go satellite on batman and kryptonite from space.

Sounds awful. Hollywood blows anymore.

LMAO

This...FFS. This.

A plot I approve of would be:

if I ever win the lottery I am paying Kevin Conroy to redub every batman movie and cartoon he didn't do the voice in

that and hookers and blow

**** that
there is no second batman
will kick me out of the franchise fast
I was there in 65


K I was born in '65 but batman is bruce wayne and always will be the bat gets no happy endings

there is a cartoon version
of dark knight returns only;y saw the first one, but very faithful to the comic

Yeah i just ordered this off amazon 'The dark knight returns' can't wait to read it. Then watch the cartoon version that i heard is over 2 hours combinde in 2 parts. Good stuff

http://www.amazon.com/Batman-Knight-...knight+returns

I will purchase this in october. Currently you can buy part 1 and 2 seperatly. 156 min total run time. I have $13 amazon instant credit i will use to rent both parts for now :)

I got the cartoon versions from Netflix. Just fantastic stuff. The first centers on an older Bruce Wayne unretiring then the second one has some Joker stuff and the Superman faceoff.

Can't wait to start it up

Dark Knight Returns animated movie was ok until Superman shows up. Then it turned to absolute diarrhea donkey shit. I hate when they bring Superman into the Batman universe. It just doesn't work for me.

The answer is simple really. Superman is poor and lives on a farm in Kansas, Batman is filthy rich and lives in a Gotham City mansion.

Ya, I read about how they want to establish Batman's genius and ability to take on guys with superpowers so its not so unbelievable when facing villains in the Justice League movie, and figure squaring off against Superman is a way to establish this and reset the character away from how he was treated by Nolan- more grounded in a realistic world- no villains like mr. Freeze or poison ivy that had over the top powers.

Also, rumored that the Batman character will bypass the origin background story and possibly be called back into service after hanging it up and in his mid-30's.
We shall see. ..

I love TDKR the comic, and the cartoon,
but as a second supes movie,...
no

better off going with Public enemies for the batman superman comic
it's also a cartoon

This is what i came into this thread to ask about... where are the COOL Batman cartoons? All i ever find is some BS kiddie stuff that does nothing to make me want to watch it.

But a dark, gritty version with realistic animation would sell me instantly, i better sniff around this thread some more...

There's a cartoon movie called Superman/Batman: Apocalypse that's pretty gritty with great animation. It features Batman, Superman, Supergirl, Wonder Woman, Doomsday and Darskeid if I remember right. That one was pretty good.

I just watched one today called Gotham Knight that was SUPER gritty but, to be honest, I didn't think it was very good.

Dark Knight Returns Part 1 was ok from what I remember. I didn't like the weird mutant storyline but its worth a watch I guess. I've never seen part 2.

But the one animated Batman movie you HAVE to see is Batman: Under the Red Hood. That's definitely my favorite animated Batman flick.

Loved under the red hood...

This is how I think Lex will be introduced:

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showp...9&postcount=75

I want to see Superman vs Dr. Doom as it was in the comic that killed Superman.

They could make the most epic super fight ever.


They can always make a movie later that revives Superman from the dead.

Dr. Doom is a Marvel character.

http://congojoea.tripod.com/sitebuil...res/drdoom.jpg

Superman was killed by Doomsday.

http://hdwpapers.com/thumbs/superman...llpaper-t2.jpg

Ok then I want to see Doomsday kill Superman in the movies.

There is a decent direct-to-video version of this: Superman/Doomsday

It basically starts with the fight and then spends the next two acts dealing with the aftermath.

Yeah cool, but that isn't the same as for the movies. That is just a cartoon.

In one of the most ridiculous story lines in the history of comics.

Old, but good:
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I actually owned the Spawn vs Batman Comic. They had to cheapen it a bit iirc, as they made it when Spawn had his powers weakened and taken away by Malbolgia.

Didn't they two of those? A Spawn/Batman and a Batman/Spawn? Two different stories? Am I high?

Get Nightmare Batman in the mix!

Image Credit: Ron Phillips
Extra! Extra!! Christian Bale offered $50 million to play Batman again!
If you’ve scanned the superhero sites, you’ve inevitably read reports that Bale is being lured back to the Batcave with a $50 meeellion offer to square off against Henry Cavill’s Superman in Warner Bros.’ Man of Steel sequel. Fans of Christopher Nolan’s Dark Knight trilogy and Bale’s dark portrayal of the Caped Crusader immediately rejoiced, convincing themselves that Bale’s previous denials and his desire to pass the torch to another Batman could quickly be erased by cold hard cash. Perhaps that will eventually be the case. But not today.
The recent online buzz erupted after the British Sun newspaper reported that “Bale is facing extraordinary pressure” to return to the character for a huge payday. The Sun‘s sources, however, aren’t exactly Warner Bros. insiders or members of Bale’s inner circle. Instead, the tabloid was blindly relying on a new ebook titled Beyond Batman: The Unauthorized True Story of Christian Bale and His Dark Knight Dilemma. It’s a 27-page mini-book from an author named Vincent Russel, who’s also written an unauthorized biography of WWE superstar CM Punk.

In Beyond Batman, Russel writes about a New Year’s Eve 2012 conversation about a potential Justice League movie that he had with a friend who worked at Legendary Pictures during the making of the Dark Knight films:
“’Why would Christian Bale walk away from what is certainly going to be either the first or second highest grossing movie in the history of cinema,” he asked, when the subject of Justice League was raised. … ‘He could probably make $50 million for being in the movie 20 minutes,’ my friend observed. ‘And it would be worth every penny to the studio.’ … Sources close to Christian Bale have reportedly begun expressing their suspicions that Bale now views the Batman films in the same light that Robert Downey, Jr. views the Iron Man films. Although Downey has appeared as Tony Stark in four films in less than a decade, he’s hardly typecast as only Iron Man. Downey has balanced his action film escapades with other projects that have harnessed his talents and earned critical acclaim in the process. … Christian Bale’s future success as a Hollywood draw may need Batman every bit as much as the Batman franchise needs Bale for a few more rounds. … It goes without saying that Bale’s managers, friends, and representatives are all telling him the same. And as anyone who has ever worked with Bale will admit, the actor is incredibly sharp, business savvy, and perceptive. As a result, it seems highly unlikely that Christian Bale will bolt from Batman when the bat signal is still glimmering above the Hollywood sign with such tangible fervor.”
Got all that?
A “former colleague” of Russel’s told him seven months before Man of Steel even opened in theaters that Bale could probably get $50 million for appearing in a subsequent Justice League movie. Now, let’s assume Russel’s former colleague is a top Legendary executive and that everything he said accurately reflects the company’s thinking… That still doesn’t equate into what’s being reported by many outlets today. There is no $50 million offer, based on a speculative conversation that took place eight months ago. The confusion isn’t necessarily the fault of Russel — who relied on “exclusive interviews, online research” for his $2.99 ebook — but the number of outlets that hurriedly ran with the news, most likely because of their steadfast belief that this type of announcement is inevitable. Of course Warner Bros. is going to make a final push to get Bale back, goes the thinking. And $50 million seems about right (I guess?) Reportedly, director Zack Snyder wants a slightly older, wearier Batman to battle Cavill’s younger Superman. That would be Bale, who’s only 39, but he certainly pulled that off in The Dark Knight Rises. Warner Bros. and Bale’s rep both declined to comment about the newest speculation, but that could mean anything or nothing.
For those who want to go down the rabbit-hole, Bale starts shooting Exodus, his Moses epic with Ridley Scott, this fall, but he’s not yet officially booked for anything in early 2014, when Batman vs. Superman is tentatively scheduled to shoot. So he’s potentially available. Bale also wouldn’t be the first actor to feign disinterest in order to secure a better payday. He’s either completely content with walking away from the franchise, or he’s playing this non-negotiation negotiation perfectly. Or both. Conceivably, he could return as Batman for one epic battle with Superman, really die the noble death he faked in Dark Knight Rises and then hand the keys of the Tumbler over to his new successor, played by Joseph Gordon-Levitt, for the subsequent Justice League movie — STOP!!! See, I understand why we care and why we were so willing to believe the $50 million offer report. But the fact is, Warner Bros. is still looking for its Batman, and last we heard from Bale on the matter, he said, “I enjoy looking forward to what somebody else will come up with.” Admittedly, that was in July, but that was also seven months after the sketchy conversation that launched the $50 million rumor.

If they get Bale back, this thing could easily rival Avengers at the box office.

If they offer him $50 million and he turns that down. **** you, Bale lol. But yeah, it'll likely break all-time box office records if he comes back.

it would beast rape the Avengers

Word!

That stupid article said square off against. F that noise. Supes would break Batman in half in a second.

Well, yeah. Since Superman has godlike powers, while Batman's just an athletic genius with the money to pay for all kinds of crazy cool toys.

Superman's boring. Overpowered.

Your new Batman will be Ben Affleck

http://www.deadline.com/2013/08/ben-...-superman-pic/


BURBANK, CA, August 22, 2013 – Ending weeks of speculation, Ben Affleck has been set to star as Batman, a.k.a. Bruce Wayne. Affleck and filmmaker Zack Snyder will create an entirely new incarnation of the character in Snyder’s as-yet-untitled project—bringing Batman and Superman together for the first time on the big screen and continuing the director’s vision of their universe, which he established in “Man of Steel.” The announcement was made today by Greg Silverman, President, Creative Development and Worldwide Production, and Sue Kroll, President, Worldwide Marketing and International Distribution, Warner Bros. Pictures.

The studio has slated the film to open worldwide on July 17, 2015.

Last month’s surprise announcement of the new movie featuring both Superman and Batman created a wave of excitement and immediately fueled discussion and debate—among fans as well as in the media—about who would put on the cape and cowl of Bruce Wayne’s alter ego.

Snyder successfully re-imagined the origin of Clark Kent/Superman in the worldwide blockbuster “Man of Steel,” which has earned more than $650 million worldwide to date, and climbing. The director will now create an original vision of Batman and his world for the film that brings the two DC Comics icons together.
Affleck will star opposite Henry Cavill, who will reprise the role of Superman/Clark Kent. The film will also reunite “Man of Steel” stars Amy Adams, Laurence Fishburne and Diane Lane.

In the announcement, Silverman stated, “We knew we needed an extraordinary actor to take on one of DC Comics’ most enduringly popular Super Heroes, and Ben Affleck certainly fits that bill, and then some. His outstanding career is a testament to his talent and we know he and Zack will bring new dimension to the duality of this character.”

Snyder also expressed his excitement about the casting of Affleck, noting, “Ben provides an interesting counter-balance to Henry’s Superman. He has the acting chops to create a layered portrayal of a man who is older and wiser than Clark Kent and bears the scars of a seasoned crime fighter, but retain the charm that the world sees in billionaire Bruce Wayne. I can’t wait to work with him.”

Kroll added, “We are so thrilled that Ben is continuing Warner Bros.’ remarkable legacy with the character of Batman. He is a tremendously gifted actor who will make this role his own in this already much-anticipated pairing of these two beloved heroes.”

Affleck recently starred in the Academy Award®-winning Best Picture “Argo,” which he also directed and produced, earning acclaim and a BAFTA Award nomination for his performance in the film, as well as a number of directing honors. In 2010, he starred in and directed the hit crime thriller “The Town.” His recent acting work also includes “The Company Men,” “State of Play,” and “Hollywoodland,” for which he received a Golden Globe nomination for Best Actor. Earlier in his career, Affleck starred in and co-wrote (with Matt Damon) “Good Will Hunting,” for which he won an Oscar® for Best Original Screenplay.

The new Super Hero film is being scripted by David S. Goyer from a story he co-created with Zack Snyder. Charles Roven and Deborah Snyder are producing, with Benjamin Melniker, Michael E. Uslan and Wesley Coller serving as executive producers.

Production is expected to begin in 2014.

The film is based on Superman characters created by Jerry Siegel & Joe Shuster, and Batman characters created by Bob Kane, published by DC Entertainment.

Some sites are beginning to report that Ben Affleck has been cast as Batman. We'll see if it holds true.

That's the best they could do?

Actually I just noticed the Man of Steel Facebook posted the same thing, I guess it is 100% official.

Its official. See post #120

JFC this is bad.

I would have preferred a no-name.

.... I'm not going to pretend like this will keep me from watching it though.

TerriBAD.

This is going to be a flop....

Count me out.

who knows? They apparently wanted an older Batman. Im holding out hope because i truly loved Man of Steel and im willing to give Snyder the benefit because of that.

****ing pathetic. Ugh. Not watching.

I'll still watch because I love Supes but I just cannot see Afleck in this role at all.

I would feel better if this was Nolan, but we'll see what happens. Sometimes Nolan makes choices that make you wonder, but they almost always work.

I don't get all the hate. Ben was great in Argo and The Town. He was very good as George Reeves in Hollywoodland.

This version won't be "The Dark Knight". My bigger concern is Snyder, not Affleck.

Ive likes bens newer movies better than his old...I disliked Daredevil. Gotta seperate this from dark knight

Don't get me wrong. I really like Ben as an actor. I just have a very hard time seeing him in the Batman role. I'll still watch but my expectations just got lowered.

I still pop in Dogma like once a year.

In some ways, Affleck and McConaughey have never been better than Dazed and Confused. : )

You know what I like about these high school girls man...

Agreed.

The only person that can direct Affleck is Affleck... this is gonna suck.

Dont get all the Snyder hate? Yea, Owls and Hot chicks with guns sucked.....but hes made 3 really good movies and Watchmen was ok in parts. Hes got a really cool visual style as well.

Three? Name one "really" good movie Snyder's made.

Man of Steel, 300 and Dawn of the Dead

None of those is "really good." The closest is DotD, the other two are all style, no substance. And I'm mot a MoS hater, but c'mon man. Really good?

I think people are relaying Daredevil being mediocre to Affleck. Daredevil wasn't Affleck's fault, writing was the downfall, not acting. I think it's fine, this movie won't be Daredevil, it'll have a much bigger budget and effects. I think it'll be on par with Man of Steel. Snyder is what'll have to get better, not the two actors in the roles.

I loved Watchmen.

Yes, sorry.

I think I need to watch it again. I liked it in parts, but not the whole. Ending seemed kinda weak. Plus, it was depressing, but I guess that's the source material.

**** you. Dawn of the Dead was a really good movie.

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‘Batman vs. Superman’: WB Producer Reveals Robin & Batman Drones

A tweet from producer Daniel Alter (Hitman, Kane & Lynch) has seemingly confirmed the longstanding speculation that Batman will have an estranged sidekick (presumably Dick Grayson) in the sequel. But that’s not all:

Bat-drones, you say?

Ever since this movie’s announcement, we’ve known that director Zack Snyder and writer David S. Goyer would be drawing inspiration from some Batman/Superman comic book storylines – the most notable being Frank Miller’s Dark Knight Returns finale, which saw the two titans go at it. (Snyder even used a quote from that battle to announce the film at the Comic-Con 2013). However, if the scenario Alter referred to is indeed part of the Batman vs. Superman storyline, it seems that the film will be borrowing from some additional sources as well – such as Mark Waid and Alex Ross’s seminal storyline, Kingdom Come.

In that iconic miniseries, we’re given a vision of an alternate future where the original Justice League has (for the most part) retired, due to the rise of a whole new generation of superhumans. Getting to the point: in the story, an elderly Bruce Wayne maintains control of Gotham City using an army of robotic Bat-sentries that he controls from the reclusive confines of his cave (a similar idea was more recently explored in the Batman Incorporated comic book). When superhuman battles begin to cause mass destruction across the globe, Wayne partners with Lex Luthor to form a coalition of non-powered humans to keep “Superman and his ilk” in check.

Jesus....this just seems to get dumber and dumber. Bat drones? seriously?

Well ,the destruction porn in MOS now starts to make a bit more sense.

I still think its too soon for this movie but whatever.

I agree. Seems like it should be the final film if they plan on doing 3.

That would've been my preference. i liked man of steel but it had flaws to it. I was kind've hoping they'd expand on clark/supes in the 2nd movie but its a major fast forward. I'm hoping to enjoy it though being a superhero nerd.

It seems to me they want to quickly lay the groundwork for a Justice League movie so they want Bats and Supes in the same movie as the kickoff to that process.

this is a disaster waiting to happen

This, and JL will most likely be god awful. Not to mention Batman will be old and retired as part of JL.

We have our wonder woman: http://www.deadline.com/interstitial...vs-superman%2F

She's going to have to put on some serious muscle to pull the look off.