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Superturtle 10-08-2021 03:30 PM

Jon Gruden made an oopsie [and has resigned]
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">NFL statement: “The email from Jon Gruden denigrating DeMaurice Smith is appalling, abhorrent and wholly contrary to the NFL’s values. We condemn the statement and regret any harm that its publication may inflict on Mr. Smith or anyone else.” <a href="https://t.co/b9IUku9saH">https://t.co/b9IUku9saH</a></p>&mdash; Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) <a href="https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1446581635344961541?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 8, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Pitt Gorilla 10-08-2021 03:31 PM

Smith's response was pretty classy:

“This is not the first racist comment that I’ve heard, and it probably will not be the last. This is a thick-skin job for someone with dark skin, just like it always has been for many people who look like me and work in corporate America,” Smith said. “You know people are sometimes saying things behind your back that are racist, just like you see people talk and write about you using thinly coded and racist language.

“Racism like this comes from the fact that I’m at the same table as they are, and they don’t think someone who looks like me belongs,” Smith continued. “I’m sorry my family has to see something like this, but I would rather they know. I will not let it define me.”

Prison Bitch 10-08-2021 03:31 PM

https://c.tenor.com/nwoJ4BS0XHYAAAAC/oh-no-anyway.gif

Cntrygal 10-08-2021 03:31 PM

So exactly how far back are we supposed to go to investigate/punish stupidity that was already acknowledged and apologized for?

DJJasonp 10-08-2021 03:32 PM

grabbing my popcorn.........

alpha_omega 10-08-2021 03:33 PM

Michelin is a fine tire.

Pitt Gorilla 10-08-2021 03:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cntrygal (Post 15879852)
So exactly how far back are we supposed to go to investigate/punish stupidity that was already acknowledged and apologized for?

When was this already acknowledged and apologized for? Gruden doesn't remember writing it.

notorious 10-08-2021 03:35 PM

Oh shit.

This might let the Raiders out of that 10 years contract.

T-post Tom 10-08-2021 03:36 PM

“I’m really sorry,” Gruden said. “I was upset. I used a horrible way of explaining it. . . . I don’t think he’s dumb. I don’t think he’s a liar. I don’t have a racial bone in my body, and I’ve proven that for 58 years.”

Gruden also explained, per Beaton, that Gruden was angry over the lockout, and that he didn’t trust the direction in which the NFLPA was going. Gruden claimed that he has referred to liars as having “rubber lips” and that in this instance he took it “too far.”



https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...maurice-smith/


And a big shit sandwich to the person that propagated a 10 year old email. Just another log on the fire that continues to burn in this country.

BWillie 10-08-2021 03:38 PM

Kevin Durant was able to get away with racist remarks to Michael Rapaport so I don't think he gets in trouble.

"Pale pasty cum guzzling bitch.” and that he should go outside and get some sun but that might to too dangerous for him.

So KD was able to both be racist and homophobic and no harm no foul.

CasselGotPeedOn 10-08-2021 03:39 PM

This should go in the racism is alive and kicking thread in DC so Pitt can finally go back in there.

Why Not? 10-08-2021 03:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 15879874)
Kevin Durant was able to get away with racist remarks to Michael Rapaport so I don't think he gets in trouble.

Pale pasty cum guzzling bitch.” and that he should go outside and get some sun but that might to too dangerous for him.

So KD was able to both be racist and homophobic and no harm no foul.

KD doesn't need about 40 white guys to bust their ass for him every week, although I agree with your overall point.

Cntrygal 10-08-2021 03:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla (Post 15879858)
When was this already acknowledged and apologized for? Gruden doesn't remember writing it.

I was listening to one of the talk shows on the radio an hour or so ago (when I was driving) and the talking head (I think it was Doug Gotley) and he said that it had come out at the time and an apology was issued. Maybe he got it wrong or I misunderstood what he was saying since I was driving through construction at the time.

Superturtle 10-08-2021 03:44 PM

Came out because of the investigation into the WFT. LMAO The one year they actually look to be decent as well. Poor Raiders.

Titty Meat 10-08-2021 03:44 PM

Who cares

RealSNR 10-08-2021 03:45 PM

Why Michelins? I mean, nothing against them, but they're not necessarily bigger than the other brands. They make tires in a variety of sizes to fit a variety of vehicles, just like all the other tire companies.

Does Gruden not know this or something? Has he never bought tires before?

Mennonite 10-08-2021 03:46 PM

If people think this email from 2011 is bad just wait until they find out what he was up to in the 90s:

https://i.imgur.com/poCsiou.jpg

old_geezer 10-08-2021 03:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Titty Meat (Post 15879898)
Who cares

Exactly. This was 10 years ago, times change, people change. I refuse to get worked up over something someone said in the far past. Let's not turn football into another form of politics.

Eureka 10-08-2021 03:57 PM

Quote:

I think this was put out by Smith's people to try and gain sympathy for him to try and save his ass from getting fired today. The timing could not be more perfect for Smith.

Smooth move.

Coochie liquor 10-08-2021 04:09 PM

www.isgrudenstillracist.com

PutQuinnIn 10-08-2021 04:11 PM

Cancel Culture, you know what to do!

Flying High D 10-08-2021 04:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alpha_omega (Post 15879857)
Michelin is a fine tire.

Especially if they have rebates when you purchase them.

MTG#10 10-08-2021 04:19 PM

Cant stand Gruden but how is that racist? He has big lips, so what? There are plenty white people with big lips as well. This pc bullshit is disgustingly out of control.

Flying High D 10-08-2021 04:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 15879874)
Kevin Durant was able to get away with racist remarks to Michael Rapaport so I don't think he gets in trouble.

"Pale pasty cum guzzling bitch.” and that he should go outside and get some sun but that might to too dangerous for him.

So KD was able to both be racist and homophobic and no harm no foul.

Isn’t it common knowledge that some can complain about certain remarks and the sky is falling and the earth is shaking. While, others can complain of said remarks directed at them and they are told to grow-up, sticks and stones, quit acting like a kindergarten. Always amazing how it only goes one way.

Flying High D 10-08-2021 04:21 PM

What tires are George Floyd’s like?

MTG#10 10-08-2021 04:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 15879874)
Kevin Durant was able to get away with racist remarks to Michael Rapaport so I don't think he gets in trouble.

"Pale pasty cum guzzling bitch.” and that he should go outside and get some sun but that might to too dangerous for him.

So KD was able to both be racist and homophobic and no harm no foul.

Whoever thumbed your post down is a ****ing dipshit.

R Clark 10-08-2021 04:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flying High D (Post 15879951)
What tires are George Floyd’s like?

Flat

flinchfree 10-08-2021 04:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flying High D (Post 15879951)
What tires are George Floyd’s like?

You're a ****ing piece of shit.

MTG#10 10-08-2021 04:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by flinchfree (Post 15879966)
You're a ****ing piece of shit.

I guess he has a lot in common with George Floyd then. Because he too was a ****ing piece of shit.

-King- 10-08-2021 04:38 PM

Great thread

jdubya 10-08-2021 04:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flying High D (Post 15879951)
What tires are George Floyd’s like?

Probably airless foam filled?


(Duoh) in my best Homer Simpson voice

flinchfree 10-08-2021 04:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MTG#10 (Post 15879967)
I guess he has a lot in common with George Floyd then. Because he too was a ****ing piece of shit.

Aaah, the ol blame the guy who got strangled to death by cop strategem.
Interesting play.
You sound like a piece of shit too.

flinchfree 10-08-2021 04:42 PM

If racist banter were a sport clearly CP would be in for top prizes.
Well done.

MTG#10 10-08-2021 04:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by flinchfree (Post 15879973)
Aaah, the ol blame the guy who got strangled to death by cop strategem.
Interesting play.
You sound like a piece of shit too.

Im not blaming him for what happened to him numbnuts. But before that happened to him, he was in fact a ****ing piece of shit. And he did not get "strangled by a cop", the autopsy proved otherwise but that's a discussion for another thread that already exists.

KCUnited 10-08-2021 04:49 PM

There's Fire and Bridgestone coming his way

fan4ever 10-08-2021 04:49 PM

Maybe this week we'll see players around the league wearing "Don't be like Jon" on the back of their helmets.

Pitt Gorilla 10-08-2021 04:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CasselGotPeedOn (Post 15879879)
This should go in the racism is alive and kicking thread in DC so Pitt can finally go back in there.

I've gone back in there. Everything seems fine.

displacedinMN 10-08-2021 05:00 PM

It is stuff like this I miss when I have conferences.

Hoopsdoc 10-08-2021 05:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla (Post 15879849)
Smith's response was pretty classy:

“This is not the first racist comment that I’ve heard, and it probably will not be the last. This is a thick-skin job for someone with dark skin, just like it always has been for many people who look like me and work in corporate America,” Smith said. “You know people are sometimes saying things behind your back that are racist, just like you see people talk and write about you using thinly coded and racist language.

“Racism like this comes from the fact that I’m at the same table as they are, and they don’t think someone who looks like me belongs,” Smith continued. “I’m sorry my family has to see something like this, but I would rather they know. I will not let it define me.”

That is a classy response. Props to Smith.

Detoxing 10-08-2021 05:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by flinchfree (Post 15879966)
You're a ****ing piece of shit.

Triggered!

Detoxing 10-08-2021 05:18 PM

I bet Jon Gruden hates the back of Forrest Whitaker's neck.

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Detoxing 10-08-2021 05:21 PM

This hardcore ghetto gangster image takes a lot of practice.

I'm not black like Barry White is, I'm white like Frank Black is.

MTG#10 10-08-2021 05:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 15880016)
I bet Jon Gruden hates the back of Forrest Whitaker's neck.

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That movie still cracks me up, not sure why so many hate it.

ROFL

Rausch 10-08-2021 05:24 PM

I would have never guessed that Gruden would say horrible things to people...

https://media1.tenor.com/images/bbbc...7ff8/tenor.gif

Detoxing 10-08-2021 05:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MTG#10 (Post 15880021)
That movie still cracks me up, not sure why so many hate it.

ROFL

Anyone who hates that movie is a goddamn wanker.

BigRedChief 10-08-2021 05:26 PM

He can’t be racist. You can’t hide that shit for 20+ years in the locker rooms full of aggressive tough competitive ego motivated black men.

Coochie liquor 10-08-2021 05:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by flinchfree (Post 15879966)
You're a ****ing piece of shit.

Awwww, look at the snowflake getting all up in arms over a guy who robbed a pregnant woman with a gun pointed at her belly. Sounds like you enjoy a fat dick in your mouth??

KurtCobain 10-08-2021 05:28 PM

I don't understand why pointing out some type of feature on someone is racist. If someone said my ears are huge that wouldn't be a racist problem just because my race doesn't typically get made fun of for that?

Detoxing 10-08-2021 05:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KurtCobain (Post 15880036)
I don't understand why pointing out some type of feature on someone is racist. If someone said my ears are huge that wouldn't be a racist problem just because my race doesn't typically get made fun of for that?

It'd be racist if you were a Keebler Elf, no doubt.

You joke like that around Santa's workshop and you're ass will get shanked.

Detoxing 10-08-2021 05:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 15880032)
He can’t be racist. You can’t hide that shit for 20+ years in the locker rooms full of aggressive tough competitive ego motivated black men.

Yup. They woulda shot him by now.

flinchfree 10-08-2021 05:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coochie liquor (Post 15880035)
....... Sounds like you enjoy a fat dick in your mouth??

Sorry buddy, you're gonna have to hold off on your fantasy shit because your wife loves me plugging her ass.....
I guess you don't stack up?:hmmm:

Camaro 10-08-2021 05:55 PM

Not racist at all.

Buehler445 10-08-2021 05:58 PM

There is a pretty big difference between rubber lipped (liar) and what they think he said.

**** the Raiders. But this is a non story.

Moral here is be precise. “Lying sack of shit” is the appropriate phrase.

Red Dawg 10-08-2021 06:03 PM

I think I will stay out of this one.

ku_jhawk23 10-08-2021 07:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cntrygal (Post 15879885)
I was listening to one of the talk shows on the radio an hour or so ago (when I was driving) and the talking head (I think it was Doug Gotley) and he said that it had come out at the time and an apology was issued. Maybe he got it wrong or I misunderstood what he was saying since I was driving through construction at the time.

If you mean Doug Gotlieb....he was saying Gruden might be fired over this. Not sure what else you'd refer to.

KCChiefsFan88 10-08-2021 07:39 PM

Why is this e-mail just being made public now? It is 10 years old.

RealSNR 10-08-2021 07:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buehler445 (Post 15880070)
There is a pretty big difference between rubber lipped (liar) and what they think he said.

**** the Raiders. But this is a non story.

Moral here is be precise. “Lying sack of shit” is the appropriate phrase.


Quoting this because I forgot to say **** the Raiders.

Also, **** Gruden anyway. Just because.

Hammock Parties 10-08-2021 07:44 PM

We need Mahomes to use his BLM clout to get Gruden canceled so we can eliminate them from the division race.

wazu 10-08-2021 07:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 15880213)
We need Mahomes to use his BLM clout to get Gruden canceled so we can eliminate them from the division race.

No, he should use it the other way and save Gruden’s job, for the good of the Chiefs.

jettio 10-08-2021 08:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 15879874)
Kevin Durant was able to get away with racist remarks to Michael Rapaport so I don't think he gets in trouble.

"Pale pasty cum guzzling bitch.” and that he should go outside and get some sun but that might to too dangerous for him.

So KD was able to both be racist and homophobic and no harm no foul.

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/...chael-rapaport

NBA did do something. Why don't you know the facts?

Eureka 10-08-2021 08:18 PM

Yep, majority of Chiefs fans may not like the Raiders but they do not support John Gruden getting railroaded by cancel culture. Especially over some bull shit email.

Maybe, if more info comes out something might need to be done but Chiefs fans have witnessed this cancel culture BS that was pulled on T. Hill.

Gruden apologized and said he never meant to offend. End of story.

Baby Lee 10-08-2021 08:20 PM

Guess he can **** off to grow Macadamia nuts with Roseanne now.

backinblack 10-08-2021 08:29 PM

Gruden is pretty obviously a hot head so this isn’t a surprise, but I’d be shocked if he received anything more than a monetary fine. But I mean if they wanna force Jon to step down as coach and get us out of his ludicrous ten year contract I wouldn’t be opposed.

Bet Urban Meyer is happy he’s not the most controversial coach of the week.

Bump 10-08-2021 08:40 PM

so is this supposed to be a comment on an individuals lips or this is a comment on an entire race's lips? Maybe his lips are big? I dunno, never seen a picture of him.

493rd 10-08-2021 08:45 PM

He’s done.

rabblerouser 10-08-2021 08:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eureka (Post 15880253)
Yep, majority of Chiefs fans may not like the Raiders but they do not support John Gruden getting railroaded by cancel culture. Especially over some bull shit email.

Maybe, if more info comes out something might need to be done but Chiefs fans have witnessed this cancel culture BS that was pulled on T. Hill.

Gruden apologized and said he never meant to offend. End of story.

100%

rabblerouser 10-08-2021 08:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bump (Post 15880302)
so is this supposed to be a comment on an individuals lips or this is a comment on an entire race's lips? Maybe his lips are big? I dunno, never seen a picture of him.

You're not allowed to critique anyone who is a minority. Ever.

Deberg_1990 10-08-2021 08:56 PM

Mark Davis not pleased


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Raiders’ statement: <a href="https://t.co/b9DphT1MsL">pic.twitter.com/b9DphT1MsL</a></p>&mdash; Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) <a href="https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1446666258653515778?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 9, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

KCChiefsFan88 10-08-2021 08:57 PM

Urban Meyer probably wants to stick his entire hand up Gruden’s ass now in his appreciation for a news cycle change.

Deberg_1990 10-08-2021 09:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88 (Post 15880345)
Urban Meyer probably wants to stick his entire hand up Gruden’s ass now in his appreciation for a news cycle change.

Urban’s Meyers to the Raiders in 2022?

Hammock Parties 10-08-2021 09:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88 (Post 15880345)
Urban Meyer probably wants to stick his entire hand up Gruden’s ass now in his appreciation for a news cycle change.

You are like a top 10 poster here

Pitt Gorilla 10-08-2021 09:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 15880213)
We need Mahomes to use his BLM clout to get Gruden canceled so we can eliminate them from the division race.

It's better if he stays. This incident will make the locker room that much more difficult for him.

sully1983 10-08-2021 09:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla (Post 15879849)
Smith's response was pretty classy:

“This is not the first racist comment that I’ve heard, and it probably will not be the last. This is a thick-skin job for someone with dark skin, just like it always has been for many people who look like me and work in corporate America,” Smith said. “You know people are sometimes saying things behind your back that are racist, just like you see people talk and write about you using thinly coded and racist language.

“Racism like this comes from the fact that I’m at the same table as they are, and they don’t think someone who looks like me belongs,” Smith continued. “I’m sorry my family has to see something like this, but I would rather they know. I will not let it define me.”

Are you going to put this "controversial " & "disturbing" non story in your "Racism is alive & well" thread ? :LOL:ROFL that email is a decade old jfc.

NEVER FORGET!!!11

Hammock Parties 10-08-2021 09:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla (Post 15880391)
It's better if he stays. This incident will make the locker room that much more difficult for him.

I actually think Gruden is a very good coach, and getting rid of him will tank the Raiders for a few years.

sully1983 10-08-2021 09:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 15880344)
Mark Davis not pleased


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Raiders’ statement: <a href="https://t.co/b9DphT1MsL">pic.twitter.com/b9DphT1MsL</a></p>&mdash; Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) <a href="https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1446666258653515778?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 9, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Oh for ****s sake talk about an overreaction and I say that as someone that thinks Gruden is dipshit & overrated as hell as a coach.

I'm sure that loud mouth buffoon Screamin A Smith is licking his chops to speak out against this rampant racism going on in this country.

(never mind the fact that Screamin Asshole Smith flat out made xenophobic and borderline racist comments about Japanese MLB player Shohei Ontani and was only suspended for a week. That POS can do whatever he wants and still remains the highest paid ignorant POS on that shitty network.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/stephen...ments-apology/

Stewie 10-08-2021 10:11 PM

I don't see Gruden as racist. He ****ing hates everybody and it has shown for years.

backinblack 10-08-2021 10:11 PM

eh, it's more likely Mark Davis would be upset at his order at PF Changs being cold than this

general PR statement is general PR statement, yawn

T-post Tom 10-08-2021 11:53 PM

Should Smith send Chucky a thank you note?


NFLPA decides to retain DeMaurice Smith, who says it will be his final term

The NFL Players Association won’t be looking for a new executive director. At least not yet.

The NFLPA board of player representatives voted on Friday night to keep DeMaurice Smith. He needed a two-thirds majority to avoid having the job declared open. Per multiple reports, he secured 22 “yes” votes, with eight “no” votes and two abstentions.

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...is-final-term/

Eureka 10-09-2021 12:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by T-post Tom (Post 15880487)
Should Smith send Chucky a thank you note?


NFLPA decides to retain DeMaurice Smith, who says it will be his final term

The NFL Players Association won’t be looking for a new executive director. At least not yet.

The NFLPA board of player representatives voted on Friday night to keep DeMaurice Smith. He needed a two-thirds majority to avoid having the job declared open. Per multiple reports, he secured 22 “yes” votes, with eight “no” votes and two abstentions.

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...is-final-term/

Quote:

I think this was put out by Smith's people to try and gain sympathy for him to try and save his ass from getting fired today. The timing could not be more perfect for Smith.

Just WOW. Smith now gets to keep his job via a vote right after this bombshell goes viral. It's just a coincidence I'm sure.

carcosa 10-09-2021 01:20 AM

This thread was rough, fellas


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