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Simply Red 02-13-2019 11:51 PM

-- Hey CP - Where exactly are you with regards to Justin Houston?
 
I know it's not popular, but; I'm SO cool w/ him not being here next season. Let me start w/ I LOVE Justin, but it's time for an entire agitation (as far as I'm concerned) -- You guys know how much I loved him, from UGA and what not. Fell to us in the draft after a Marijuana case, and he learned from it!

Don't get it twisted - my opinion is ALL BUSINESS. We will NEVER replace JH next year regarding talent - but if we can SORT of 'come close' w/ regards to a replacement, then I'll be cool. I think if those were the cases; we can add another stud w/ just a slight sub par replacement (at that position) and also: (the ability to add another quality positional starter)

I'd like to hear from my people, here.

If this were to happen - we all know JH will be just fine in finding work w/o reducing to sacking groceries at the Winn Dixie.

Thanks all!

BigRedChief 02-13-2019 11:55 PM

Restructure or be gone. Just business. Getting paid like your a top defensive player in the whole NFL. But your at best average these days.

Flying High D 02-13-2019 11:56 PM

Blinded by his contract. Something has to be done with that. If not, bye.

dlphg9 02-13-2019 11:57 PM

I honestly think Houston is the best defender we have. I also think he is a better pash rusher than Ford. Losing him makes this D alot worse.

Simply Red 02-13-2019 11:59 PM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 14105684)
Restructure or be gone. Just business. Getting paid like your a top decendive player in the whole NFL. But your at best average these days.

BRC, come on, he's above average - do you realize that IF we released him how hard it'd be to replace him w/o taking (at least) a slight step back.

I get it though - like you; we're all sold on him primarily being a pass-rusher, but he does a lot of intangibles well. That's hard to find out there.

BigRedChief 02-13-2019 11:59 PM

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Originally Posted by dlphg9 (Post 14105686)
I honestly think Houston is the best defender we have. I also think he is a better pash rusher than Ford. Losing him makes this D alot worse.

we can get a top defensive FA that is actually a top player in the NFL. That improves the team.

ChiefoftheKeyboard 02-14-2019 12:01 AM

Personally, I’d say keep him and tag and trade ford if it’s one or the other. Hopefully they draft a pass rusher with one of the first 3 picks and I’d rather have Houston mentoring them than Ford. Also, we could release him the following year with no real cap loss, so there isn’t much risk in keeping him another year. If he is willing to restructure then I think keeping him is a no brained. Him being on the field is partially why Ford had such a good season.

This scheme will also help Kpass and speaks, so we have options on the roster as well to replace Ford, who has missed a ton of time anyways. Houston’s injury was by contact, and had the chiefs handled his return table better, he wouldn’t have re-tore it and missed more time. Ford has had back issues and countless nagging injuries.

Simply Red 02-14-2019 12:01 AM

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Originally Posted by dlphg9 (Post 14105686)
I honestly think Houston is the best defender we have. I also think he is a better pash rusher than Ford. Losing him makes this D alot worse.

I think the switch to 4/3 is a game-changing outlook w/ regard to responsibility and 'who' does 'what' and when - I think we need to remember that.

ChiefoftheKeyboard 02-14-2019 12:05 AM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 14105688)
we can get a top defensive FA that is actually a top player in the NFL. That improves the team.

Who are you gonna get at his position that would be as good? That’s also shelling out big time guaranteed money. Houston’s contract gives us yr to yr flexibility now.

Simply Red 02-14-2019 12:06 AM

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Originally Posted by ChiefoftheKeyboard (Post 14105689)
Personally, I’d say keep him and tag and trade ford

Let me be fair - I'm okay w/ this, too. Houston is better suited for this new switch and it makes far more sense. I just like that free'd money more-so - but that's a solid post my brother. I'm good w/ it.

dlphg9 02-14-2019 12:10 AM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 14105688)
we can get a top defensive FA that is actually a top player in the NFL. That improves the team.

Id rather have Houston than Ford. Cutting Houston saves around 15 mil and franchising Ford will cost around 16 million. Get rid of Ford and hope either Speaks or KPass can take the spot.

ChiefoftheKeyboard 02-14-2019 12:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Simply Red (Post 14105693)
Let me be fair - I'm okay w/ this, too. Houston is better suited for this new switch and it makes far more sense. I just like that free'd money more-so - but that's a solid post my brother. I'm good w/ it.

Ya I do as well as far as the money. Especially now that it can be rolled over year by year so that makes it a hard decision. Do you think it comes down to Ford or Houston? Because I don’t see both of them on the roster next season.

ChiefoftheKeyboard 02-14-2019 12:15 AM

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Originally Posted by dlphg9 (Post 14105696)
Id rather have Houston than Ford. Cutting Houston saves around 15 mil and franchising Ford will cost around 16 million. Get rid of Ford and hope either Speaks or KPass can take the spot.

I agree. If we trade Ford then the cap will lay out a very similar way

ChiefoftheKeyboard 02-14-2019 12:24 AM

Kpass was asked to lose weight for his OLB switch. He was deactivated the last several games of the season. Anyone think they already knew about the switch to a 4-3 and just shut him down for the year to start preparing his body for the scheme change?

MAHOMO 4 LIFE! 02-14-2019 01:17 AM

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