Indeed.

:(

I will still watch this and hope that as the season progresses they find themselves. So much potential here to be an awesome show.

It will be a major curve ball if Discovery ends up being better than Orville......

Most of the early episodes of Next Generation were pretty lame as well. Hopefully it'll last long enough to find its legs.

This premise was already done by Galaxy Quest to perfection

ROFL

This cannot be said enough.

The only non-animated movie where Seth excels is Ted, and it's only because it's live-action, and you don't see Seth's face.

He was in a kinda-Western, I think, but the only thing I remember is a dead Sheriff being dragged away by wolves while a self-aware Seth monologues while it happens.

I thought it was cringeworthy, but workable if Mac plays the straight character. When he is the jokester it comes off snobby. Family Guy is on point most of the time tho

It definitely took a while to find its footing but once it did, it was great.

The interesting thing is that Brannon Braga, who produced ST:TNG and other Star Trek properties, is a producer on The Orville.

Theoretically, this show should have avoided those pitfall, although it look 4 seasons for Enterprise to finally become a quality addition, then it was cancelled.

Well, it was a little different premise.

That said, the Galaxy Quest TV series is back in production at Amazon.

Just saw the first episode. I really don't understand why the critics blasted this show so badly. I mean, its not going to be the greatest show ever made on TV, but its a solid, entertaining show. How the hell did it get 11% on rotten tomatoes?

Probably because Seth MacFarlane is not that funny and the idea is lame imo. Give me South Park over Family Guy or any of Seth's cringeworthy projects any day of the week please. So glad South Park took shots at Family Guy years ago. Great episode.

16 years on air but it's "not that good".

I won't say it's not good, but it is often lazy. And South Park absolutely pinpointed why.

Many many of their jokes weren't so much jokes as 'hey, remember when this happened. . . .'

'Geez, I'm more nervous than when that pedophile tried to give Arnold ice cream' - cut to 5 minute cartoon re-enactment of an episode of Diff'rent Strokes.

'Geez, I'm more mad when the Duke Boys thwarted Boss Hogg' - cut to 5 minute re-enactment of an episode of Dukes of Hazzard.

Rinse, repeat.

It's not all that different from Talk Soup or Tosh.0 in that regard. More commenting on how weird the rest of TV is, than making new TV.