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keg in kc 03-04-2014 10:52 PM

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Rausch 03-04-2014 11:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 10411994)
So Captain A needs Falcons help.


So once again I ask, why doesn't he call Tony Stark, Thor and Bruce Banner as well?

Because Banner doesn't want to be called. He doesn't want to be the Hulk or have any part of this "team."

Stark is in the middle of having panic attacks and impulsive behaviors like destroying his own suits to distance himself from the supes life (in IM3.)

Thor is an ET/god.

How the **** do you get one of those on the phone?

On top of that keep in mind Cap was frozen in ice in 1945 and thawed out in (insert date of first CA film.) Just going to the grocery store ****ing confuses the guy...

Rausch 03-04-2014 11:50 PM

For those not complete comix geeks there's another Hulk/Falcon tie in.

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Jim Wilson first appeared in The Incredible Hulk #131 as an angry young man who befriends the Hulk. Throughout the years, Jim Wilson would often appear as a friend of Bruce Banner, following Banner/Hulk throughout much of the 1970s as one of the few people that Banner could trust. The Incredible Hulk #232 revealed that Sam Wilson, the superhero Falcon, was Jim's uncle.
In The Incredible Hulk #388 (early 90's,) Wilson enlists Rick Jones to play a benefit concert at a hospice for AIDS patients. On the drive from the airport, Wilson reveals to Jones that he is HIV-positive, and that his girlfriend left him. Wilson also informs Jones that an L.A. mob boss named Lang hired some thugs to kill Jefferson Wolfe, the "longtime companion" of his son, Tyler Lang, who is also HIV-positive. Lang blames Wolfe for giving Tyler the disease, and deeply resents the fact that Wolfe still appears in good health himself. When that fails (thanks to some timely help from the Falcon), the mob boss hires a supervillain named Speedfreek to crash the charity concert and kill Wolfe. During the assassination attempt, the palms of Jones' hands are badly slashed by Speedfreek, and Wilson receives a bloody chest wound. Rick is afraid to touch Wilson's wound, and after the Hulk defeats Speedfreek, it is up to him to rush Wilson to a hospital. Jones and the Hulk later secure evidence to send the mob boss to prison.
Wilson is again seen in The Incredible Hulk #420, in which he is attacked by a mob protesting the fact that a court has ordered an HIV-infected boy to be allowed into a public school. The Hulk is able to rescue Wilson from the mob, and takes him to the hi-tech medical facilities at the Mount, the secret headquarters of the Pantheon, the superhero group which the Hulk was a member of at the time. He learns that Wilson actually has AIDS now, and has had it for some time. In addition to the broken ribs he sustained in the mob attack, he is suffering from pneumocystis carinii pneumonia, and does not have long to live. Remembering the blood transfusion that the Hulk gave his cousin, Jennifer Walters (which turned her into the She-Hulk), Wilson asks Bruce Banner to give him a transfusion of his blood, hoping that the Hulk's blood would act as a cure to the virus. Banner initially refuses to take the risk of creating another monster, but eventually pretends to be giving Wilson a blood transfusion. Wilson reveals in private to Dr. Harr, the attending physician caring for him, that he was not fooled by Bruce's ruse, but played along anyway. Shortly afterward, Jim Wilson succumbs to the disease and dies.
After Wilson's death, Bruce donates a large sum of money to the hospice that Wilson worked at in order to allow them to comfortably exist for the next few decades.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Wilson_(comics)

This would be one of the story arcs that makes me recommend funny books to grown adults. It was one of the first mature approaches to the idea of a "partner" and a very blunt treatment of the topic of AIDS.

Extremely well written and a subtle (but impacting) part of the Hulk storyline...

Ragged Robin 03-05-2014 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Anyong Bluth (Post 10413834)
Their straight to home release animated movies are very good. Theatre releases are shaky at best for their track record. Superman is a tough one to tackle because the bastard is invincible so it detracts from creating a real drama in my opinion. You can only play out the various methods of delivery of kryptonite story so much when we're talking about a series of movies.

This is only an issue for bad writers who need to crutch on mindless action scenes. There's so much you can do with Superman that has already been done. Read All Star Superman or At the End of Days, they will completely mind**** you.

In All Star, Lex tricks Superman into saving a space mission too close to the sun, over-radiating his cells which makes him more smart and powerful than ever but slowly kills him ala cancer. So right at the start both we and Supes knows he's going to die at the end. It basically becomes a "what would Superman do in his last few days of living?" type of episodic adventure and by the end he smashes atoms together with his fingers to create a universe in which there are no superheroes (our universe) so he could find out if the world would be okay without him. He also embeds himself into his own timeline so that he could see his dad once more before he dies.. it's incredible.

At the End of Days is just a fantastically nutty invasion story except it's a 5th dimensional creature invading Earth. Since time is the 4th dimension, he attacks the earth at all points in time simultaneously so he fights Superman throughout his entire life and defeats him in each instance except for the most current.. because since Superman's been fighting him his whole life, he already knows how to beat him ROFL

This is why I hate the whole Nolan/Snyder take on the DC Universe where they drag the characters down for the sake of "realism" and "grittyness." They don't need to be real or gritty to be interesting.. they're superheroes.

ThaVirus 03-05-2014 10:28 AM

Both of those story arcs sound dumb as shit...

Ragged Robin 03-05-2014 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 10467824)
Both of those story arcs sound dumb as shit...

What if I told you a story where Batman quits being Batman until Catwoman steals his mom's pearls and then Bane takes over Gotham and then gets shot by Catwoman while Batman takes a nuke into the ocean just like how the Adam West 60's movie ended ROFL

Or how about, Jonathan Kent dies saving his dog from a tornado so Supes becomes an emo bum before setting off a signal that leads Zod to Earth. They then punch each other on screen for an hour, resulting in the mass destruction of Metropolis and Smallville before Supes executes him by snapping his neck ROFL

Buehler445 03-05-2014 10:32 AM

But. I am pumped the **** up for the new CAP. It looks good. Very good.

ThaVirus 03-05-2014 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Ragged Robin (Post 10467833)
What if I told you a story where Batman quits being Batman until Catwoman steals his mom's pearls and then Bane takes over Gotham and then gets shot by Catwoman while Batman takes a nuke into the ocean just like how the Adam West 60's movie ended ROFL


That sounds much better.

I really just hate Superman. I mean, he's a ****ing beast don't get me wrong; but he's a pansy do-gooder and some of the shit he does is just so cheap.

Creating a new universe by rubbing his fingers together? Seriously..

beach tribe 03-05-2014 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 10411994)
So Captain A needs Falcons help.


So once again I ask, why doesn't he call Tony Stark, Thor and Bruce Banner as well?

Stark is not playing hero right now.

Asgard isn't exactly a local call.

You don't fire up the Hulk unless the world is at stake.

GordonGekko 03-05-2014 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Ragged Robin (Post 10467833)
What if I told you a story where Batman quits being Batman until Catwoman steals his mom's pearls and then Bane takes over Gotham and then gets shot by Catwoman while Batman takes a nuke into the ocean just like how the Adam West 60's movie ended ROFL

So you would prefer we live in a world where Nolan never touched Batman, a world where the The Dark Knight (2008) was never made? I'm not with you.

Tribal Warfare 03-05-2014 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by beach tribe (Post 10468137)
Stark is not playing hero right now.

Asgard isn't exactly a local call.

You don't fire up the Hulk unless the world is at stake.

Spoiler!

Ragged Robin 03-05-2014 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by GordonGekko (Post 10468161)
So you would prefer we live in a world where Nolan never touched Batman, a world where the The Dark Knight (2008) was never made? I'm not with you.

Sure, it's a step up from Batman Forever but people talk about these movies like they are the end-all of all Batman stories when they're largely still shite. Anyone (Nolan and Snyder especially) who takes an established franchise and goes "you know what, how about we take these fictional superheroes and make them more real by making them wear makeup and armor and have them kill the bad guys at the end" is entirely missing the point. At least in the Marvel flicks there's none of that pretentious bullshit and they don't take themselves too seriously, which is a large part of their success.

I mean, come on. Man of Steel was like, "let's take the most uplifting and hopeful character and completely make him ****ing miserable and have a punch out fest for half an hour at the end before he executes Zod. What's more, let's even VISUALLY take out all the color and overlay it with with a complete gray/saturated look just so people know that this is a miserable and exhausting movie, even for the character. Why? Because it's more real." ROFL

keg in kc 03-06-2014 02:33 PM

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Fish 03-06-2014 02:39 PM

Glad to see they're finally using his shield more. This might be pretty decent...

Easy 6 03-06-2014 03:14 PM

Yeah, these new trailers look bad ass.


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