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lcarus 07-03-2021 02:22 AM

Holy hell they won a game!

Coach 07-03-2021 07:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sure-Oz (Post 15729521)
Assume be resigns and takes a FO spot

No.

He needs to be gone. His shick has ran its course here. He just need to leave the organization and go somewhere else.

Coach 07-03-2021 07:18 AM

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Originally Posted by tk13 (Post 15729653)
It's 100% true that they haven't done a good job of developing pitchers, but the Tigers literally had Singer on their short list to draft at #1 and he was at one time probably a top 5 prospect in the draft. You can't fault Dayton for drafting him all the way down at 18. There's no way he should be passing on talent like that.

I have no issue with Singer. I would have drafted him there as well.

The issue I am having is the Royals organization philosophy on pitchers from the lower level of the minor leagues to the MLB level.

Since we'll never know how Yordano would have turned out, so far up to this point, none of these pitchers under Dayton Moore that he has drafted, has panned out well as a legit top of the line starter. They have either:

a) flamed out

or

b) moved to the pen and had some success there.

That 2011 class was a huge bust.

Why Not? 07-03-2021 08:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coach (Post 15729786)
I have no issue with Singer. I would have drafted him there as well.

The issue I am having is the Royals organization philosophy on pitchers from the lower level of the minor leagues to the MLB level.

Since we'll never know how Yordano would have turned out, so far up to this point, none of these pitchers under Dayton Moore that he has drafted, has panned out well as a legit top of the line starter. They have either:

a) flamed out

or

b) moved to the pen and had some success there.


That 2011 class was a huge bust.


Yeah it’s pretty much Detroit Lions drafting WRs pre Megatron bad. Since Grienke, we’ve basically had the potential of Ventura and that is it. Some people throw Duffy in there but that’s got to be based on longevity more than anything else. I like the guy as a person and respect his love for KC but he’s a .500 pitcher with basically a 4 ERA (career). So over the past decade plus, from a development of starting pitcher standpoint, you have:

1. What we all believe Yordano would’ve been

2. A serviceable 3/high end 4 in Duffy

3. Squadoosh

That’s pretty pathetic.

Deberg_1990 07-03-2021 08:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Why Not? (Post 15729799)
Yeah it’s pretty much Detroit Lions drafting WRs pre Megatron bad. Since Grienke, we’ve basically had the potential of Ventura and that is it. Some people throw Duffy in there but that’s got to be based on longevity more than anything else. I like the guy as a person and respect his love for KC but he’s a .500 pitcher with basically a 4 ERA (career). So over the past decade plus, from a development of starting pitcher standpoint, you have:

1. What we all believe Yordano would’ve been

2. A serviceable 3/high end 4 in Duffy

3. Squadoosh

That’s pretty pathetic.

The Royals organization hasn’t done a good job of developing pitchers since the 1980s.

Kevin Appier in the 90s and Greinke in the 2000s. Was about it.

Sure-Oz 07-03-2021 08:49 AM

Are they working on a change up for Brady?

Sure-Oz 07-03-2021 10:34 AM

@alec_lewis: The Royals traded Kelvin Gutierrez to the Orioles for cash considerations. Guti had been DFA’d.

lewdog 07-03-2021 10:51 AM

This isn't a drafting issue. It's a player development/coaching issue with our pitching problems over DECADES.

Mama Hip Rockets 07-03-2021 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Sure-Oz (Post 15729869)
@alec_lewis: The Royals traded Kelvin Gutierrez to the Orioles for cash considerations. Guti had been DFA’d.

YES! CASH!

TLO 07-03-2021 11:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sure-Oz (Post 15729869)
@alec_lewis: The Royals traded Kelvin Gutierrez to the Orioles for cash considerations. Guti had been DFA’d.

YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!

dlphg9 07-03-2021 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Sure-Oz (Post 15729869)
@alec_lewis: The Royals traded Kelvin Gutierrez to the Orioles for cash considerations. Guti had been DFA’d.

How much y'all thinking we got for him? $69? $420? $69420?

CasselGotPeedOn 07-03-2021 12:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sure-Oz (Post 15729869)
@alec_lewis: The Royals traded Kelvin Gutierrez to the Orioles for cash considerations. Guti had been DFA’d.

If we got $5 we won the trade.

dlphg9 07-03-2021 12:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lewdog (Post 15729879)
This isn't a drafting issue. It's a player development/coaching issue with our pitching problems over DECADES.

Yep, I remember one of our top pitching prospects having issues with the organization over long toss.

Prison Bitch 07-03-2021 12:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CasselGotPeedOn (Post 15729938)
If we got $5 paid them we won the trade.

Fixed

TLO 07-03-2021 12:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dlphg9 (Post 15729934)
How much y'all thinking we got for him? $69? $420? $69420?

Bout tree fiddy


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