The biggest reason our offense was great was the O-Line, Herm didn't ruin it.
 

Herm has not ruined our offense. We don't have a dominate line anymore which has led to less yardage in the air and on the ground. Couple that with mediocre WR's and a suspect FB and this is what you get.

Trent is looking old as well. His arm no longer has the power to go down field. How many throws have hit the ground. How many times against Balt did they run up and knock the ball away from our WR's. We've seen Trnet under throw our guys more than once this year on deep patterns. This is related to arm strength.

Herm deserves a chance to build his team. Get the O-line he wants and get larger more physical WR's that can get the ball without having to be wide open.

At least we know damn well he will get some more beef for the D-line.

Agreed. I'm pretty much in the same camp. The O Line was always the key, and now it's not working like it used to. That pretty much screws up the rest of the offense. Herm did not make Trent a year older and a little less accurate, he did not get rid of Roaf, he did not sign our mediocre recievers. He's working with what he has, which sadly ain't much anymore.

Blame Carl. It feels better!

YES! WE SHOUILD TAKE THE KING OUT BACK AND BEAT THE SNOT OUTTA HIM!

For the good of the team, Trent needs to communicate his intentions to Herm & Carl ASAP. If he is going to retire after this season, Carl needs to re-sign Huard before he goes on the market.

I know Huard is 33, but he shows toughness and doesn't try to force throws into double coverage. Rebuild or not, he'd provide stability through next year while Croyle develops.

Trent is ready for a dirt nap, and Shields is barely average any more. Wiegmann is just being exposed more often than he used to be, and most of all we REALLY miss Roaf.

And, like it or not, Tait was much better than anyone we've had at right tackle since.

We need to spend draft picks building in the trenches.

It's not that Trent's arm is shot...he's not a pitcher. He can't step into his throws because he's constantly being assaulted on all sides.

i thought huard already had a new deal.

and we all knew last year that the O was gettin old.

That would be news to me; good news, but I must've missed it when it happened.

That was a one-year deal for 2006.

He's a UFA.

I was watch’n this specifically last week and almost all the under throws I was able to track were because he wasn’t step’n through with his throw. He’s shortening his throwing motion 'cause he’s either got someone at his feet or he’s run’n for’is life.

Who evaluates the talent and decides who plays where on the OL? Solari or Herm...

Nice to see that the man in charge of the preformance of this football gets a complete free pass.

also, if you can see that the line is failing, why sit on your hands and try to convience Big Willie to come back? Carl and Herm sit and did nothing thinking Willie was coming back!

They are both stupid jackasses. If something is broke or weak, you try and fix it, but no they just let it go and said we will be alright..

Tool bags

I wonder if Herm will realize that he needs a better OL and if he will address it.

In his 5 years in New York the Jets did not use a single first day draft pick at the OL position. This year, Mangini's first year, they used both on the OL (Brick and Mangold) and it appears to have paid dividends.

Agreed. While I love O-line play, we can't spend a lot of dollars on the entire O-line.

IMO, LT & RT is where you should typically spend the top picks to solidify those spots.

You can get Guards and Centers cheap in the middle to late rounds.