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bkkcoh 07-18-2001 07:12 AM

DV's Take on the RB's
 
Quote:

VERMEIL: "I see Priest Holmes as a complete package. I don't see him as a Marshall Faulk because there's only one of those guys. But I do see him as a guy that's very reliable, very aggressive, that runs the ball well, blocks for other people carrying the ball well and in pass protection, and catches the ball very well. I see competition. I see (RB) Mike Cloud being a better football player than I came here thinking he was because he didn't get to play much. I see (RB) Frank Moreau maybe being the real sleeper of the whole group. He's about 15 pounds lighter than he was a year ago and has shown real grace and speed. I see (RB) Derrick Blaylock, a rookie that we drafted, as being the most explosive of all of them. Of course, (RB/FB) Tony Richardson might be the most underrated player on the whole football team."
If he is such a good judge of talent, I don't think we should worry too much about our RB's, but we will see.

Phobia 07-18-2001 08:59 AM

Vermeil's RB talent evaluation credibility went out the window with the well publicized Lawrence Phillips debacle.

I'd take anything he has to say about RB's with a grain of salt.

I will, however, take Al Saunders word.... Wishing that offensive coordinators got more press time.

Bob Dole 07-18-2001 09:10 AM

Bob Dole doesn't think DV ever lauded LP as a great back. DV saw him as a back with talent and ability that had huge personal problems and thought he could "save" him. LP <b>did</b> have talent and ability. Unfortunately, he also has a walnut-sized brain and the "save" failed.

Bob Dole doesn't see the situation as a demerit to DV's ability to evaluate running back talent.

milkman 07-18-2001 09:13 AM

Why?
 
You question Vermeil's credibility, which I agree on, but you seem to think that Saunders' words carry more weight.

Why?

What,exactly, has he done to warrant such faith?

Phobia 07-18-2001 09:18 AM

LOL milkman

It's not necessarily what Saunders has done as what much as it is what he has NOT done.

He has not touted a 3 team loser top 5 pick as RBOTF when proven otherwise over and over.

Certainly, there are much better judges of talent in the NFL and possibly even on the KC payroll, but I was just taking my candidates from the top dogs in KC....

milkman 07-18-2001 09:37 AM

OK.
Hopefully we'll find out as we go along that Saunders is a talent evaluator.

You know, if we did hear more from coodinators (defense and offense), I wonder if we would have gotten a glimpse into Gun's inconsistent and insecure personality, and what the overall fan reaction would have been when Gun was named HC?

Pitt Gorilla 07-18-2001 12:13 PM

Phobia,
Who are you referring to? I don't remember DV naming LP as the "RBOTF." He also was not a three team bust when he was drafted. When had he proved an incapable back over and over BEFORE he joined the Rams?

DaWolf 07-18-2001 12:23 PM

Vermiel inherited Phillips and had to at least try to make the Lamb's 6th overall pick work out. Just remember, the "Genius" Bill Walsh also thought Phillips had talent. Marty was also going to bring him in for a tryout too before he realized the public outcry wouldn't be worth it...

LMT 07-18-2001 01:00 PM

Sticking with the original topic...

I am jacked about what we might have in Blaylock. It has been exactally 20 years after
Joe Delaney became a member of the Chiefs, and Joe was the most exciting back the
Chiefs have ever had. I somehow feel it is destiny that Blaylock is now on our squad. We
are due to catch a BIG break when it comes to RB's, and courtesy of the Detroit Lions,
Blaylock is on our team. Were it not for the Lions trading up to one spot in front of us, we
would have McMahon from Rutgers instead. Like I stated earlier, I just have a hunch that
this is going to turn out to be a big break for our side.

No, I have never seen Blaylock play. But I like what DV's comment on him is - "being the
most explosive of them all". It has been 20 years since we have had an "explosive" back.
It's been a long wait, but my gut feeling is that come some point in this season, we are
going to be thanking the Lions!




Just a side note to this discussion. DV also stated that Green is been well excepted already
in the lockerroom. Wildcard, here we come!!!

Luzap 07-18-2001 01:17 PM

I am also excited about his words on Moreau.

I will never forget his performance in preseason and his explosiveness turning the corner on sweeps.

With an offense actually set up to run the perimiter, he might do very well.

Luz
convinced that coaching, playbook, gameplanning, and game day decisions were our problem ~ not personnel...

Lightning Rod 07-18-2001 01:23 PM

DV is starting to remind me of a politician. He seems to like every thing and every body. Now I don't expect him to be dogging anyone but, I would be nice to at least hear him say something like "he has a lot to prove".

Phobia 07-18-2001 02:25 PM

Pitt,

The structure of the sentence in question leaves much to be desired. LP was a miserable failure and did very little in the NFL. Of course much of this happened after he departed StL, but DV still backed both him and Banks up after they proved to be failures while with the team. That was my point and it stands even though I've previously failed to properly convey as much.

Baby Lee 07-18-2001 03:17 PM

KPhobia - that's properly to convey. . . :)

Otherwise, you are right on the money. At least so far as the past is concerned. One aspect of DV's 'comaraderie' approach is that he develops much love for his players, and suffers in his ability to be critical of them.

Packfan 07-18-2001 04:20 PM

The "complete package" Priest Holmes was so great that Baltimore drafted his replacement last year. So much for being "complete". Granted, Holmes is an upgrade to the garbage the Chiefs have had in the backfield the last couple of years. But I have to be honest. Watching film of Priest Holmes reminds me of Donnell Bennett. Donnell Bennett wasnt the answer. I doubt Holmes will be either.

Tribal Warfare 07-18-2001 04:42 PM

My thoughts on the RB issue, are that Holmes will have to fight off Blaylock all season. Holmes is good but he isn't special,when KC gets that special RB the dimension of the whole offense will expand dramatically. Derrick Blaylock could be that special player.


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