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Hammock Parties 04-27-2008 11:12 PM

The hypothetical Jared Allen/rookies poll
 
Would you rather have

Jared Allen lining up next to Alfonso Boone, Glenn Dorsey and Tamba Hali

OR

Our current patchwork DL

And Branden Albert, Brad Cottam and DaJuan Morgan?


I guess I'll only be satisfied with the trade if Albert turns out to be a stud LT and Cottam is the long-term replacement for Gonzalez. Morgan would be gravy.

BigRock 04-27-2008 11:14 PM

If we hadn't traded Allen, Dorsey wouldn't have fallen to #5 and we would have reached on Ryan Clady. That's just how the universe works.

Basileus777 04-27-2008 11:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigRock (Post 4722380)
If we hadn't traded Allen, Dorsey wouldn't have fallen to #5 and we would have reached on Ryan Clady. That's just how the universe works.

How did the Allen trade affect Dorsey falling?

I wonder what we would have done if we hadn't traded Allen though. Having the 17th pick gave us the flexibility to go BPA and take Dorsey. If we didn't make the trade we probably would have traded down and taken Clady.

Hammock Parties 04-27-2008 11:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigRock (Post 4722380)
If we hadn't traded Allen, Dorsey wouldn't have fallen to #5

I don't think that way for a second.

We might have passed on the sonofabitch though for Clady. :cuss:

BigRock 04-27-2008 11:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Basileus777 (Post 4722382)
How did the Allen trade affect Dorsey falling?

Karma.

keg in kc 04-27-2008 11:28 PM

If we don't trade Allen, and Dorsey falls to 5 (I don't see why he wouldn't have...), I don't think we draft him.

Why do I believe that? Because without that 17th pick, we don't have any possibility at all of getting both Dorsey and Albert, and in that situation, I think they ultimately decide to fill the greater need in Albert. So that extra pick, in my opinion, is what got us Dorsey.

And I think this is probably a whole different draft top-to-bottom if it goes that way. There was a weird kind of momentum for us. A synchronicity. Things just fell our way, and it started with Dorsey. They (literally) got every player they wanted yesterday (I don't know how many people caught this, but apparently Herm told Jaworski the 3 guys we wanted just before the draft started, and we got every one of them...), and that just doesn't happen if Jared's on this roster. It can't happen, because we don't have the picks...

So, personally, I take the draft. I think Dorsey and Albert (and Flowers) are more important to this team than Allen would have been.

Hammock Parties 04-27-2008 11:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by keg in kc (Post 4722399)

Personally, I take the draft. I think Dorsey and Albert (and Flowers) are more important to this team than Allen would have been.

If Dorsey is who they think he is, we can find some emaciated weakside defensive end to rush the passer and it won't matter if he doesn't have a 70 million dollar contract. The DL will flourish. That's what great DT play does for you.

Basileus777 04-27-2008 11:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by keg in kc (Post 4722399)
apparently Herm told Jaworski the 3 guys we wanted just before the draft started, and we got every one of them...)

Herm's stupid. Next year someone is going to bribe Jaws to reveal our targets.

keg in kc 04-27-2008 11:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Basileus777 (Post 4722405)
Herm's stupid. Next year someone is going to bribe Jaws to reveal our targets.

I couldn't believe he did it.

Hammock Parties 04-27-2008 11:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Basileus777 (Post 4722405)
Herm's stupid. Next year someone is going to bribe Jaws to reveal our targets.

Jaws will never do it. He's part of the secret Herm Edwards fan club. I'm President. Our motto is "At the end of the day, you play to win the game."

KcMizzou 04-27-2008 11:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by keg in kc (Post 4722399)
If we don't trade Allen, and Dorsey falls to 5 (I don't see why he wouldn't have...), I don't think we draft him.

Why do I believe that? Because without that 17th pick, we don't have any possibility at all of getting both Dorsey and Albert, and in that situation, I think they ultimately decide to fill the greater need in Albert. So that extra pick, in my opinion, is what got us Dorsey.

And I think this is probably a whole different draft top-to-bottom if it goes that way. There was a weird kind of momentum for us. A synchronicity. Things just fell our way, and it started with Dorsey. They (literally) got every player they wanted yesterday (I don't know how many people caught this, but apparently Herm told Jaworski the 3 guys we wanted just before the draft started, and we got every one of them...), and that just doesn't happen if Jared's on this roster. It can't happen, because we don't have the picks...

So, personally, I take the draft. I think Dorsey and Albert (and Flowers) are more important to this team than Allen would have been.

Yep.... things just went right for KC... for once.

Skini 04-27-2008 11:38 PM

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Originally Posted by KcMizzou (Post 4722408)
Yep.... things just went right for KC... for once.

Amen, I had very serious doubts but after seeing the way the draft went down I understand why they made the trade.

BigRedChief 04-27-2008 11:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KcMizzou (Post 4722408)
Yep.... things just went right for KC... for once.

I'm sorry but I don't like the 3rd round picks. We should have shored up our OL not gotten back ups.

Hammock Parties 04-27-2008 11:39 PM

I actually enjoy a tasty dish of menstruation. It's great with a little salt and pepper.

And either I'm white and shriveled or black and hung. You can't have it both ways. Pick one.

Hootie 04-27-2008 11:40 PM

these tags are awesome...makes threads so much more fun.


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