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booger 10-14-2008 06:37 PM

Gretz) Carl: It Was Never Close
 
Carl: It Was Never Close
October 14, 2008 - Bob Gretz |


Speaking from St. Petersburg, Florida where the NFL is holding its annual October meetings, Carl Peterson said Tuesday night that a deal for Tony Gonzalez was never close to happening.

“No, it was never close,” Peterson said. “For a player of Tony’s stature I was willing to accomodate something I don’t normally do. I went out to see if there were teams interested in him. I did that and there were very few teams that were interested.

“Tony and his representative (Tom Condon) knew from the start that any deal had to make sense for the Kansas City Chiefs and no one came close. No proposal compared to the value of Tony Gonzalez to the Kansas City Chiefs.”

Peterson incidated that it all came down to three teams that he would not identify. He would not comment on the proposals, but said none of them contained a first-day draft choice (rounds one through three) in compensation.

“I used as my measuring stick the fact that the New York Giants got a second and fifth round picks for Jeremy Shockey,” said Peterson. “Although he is five years younger, in my opinion he’s not as good and never will be as good as Tony Gonzalez. Had a team come to us with a second-round pick, then there would have been a reason to continue the conversation. That never happened.

“As far as I’m concerned, if you trade Tony Gonzalez for a second-day draft pick, you really have demeaned one helluva football player. I know where he’s at, I know he’s 32 years old. His value to the Kansas City Chiefs exceeds anything that was offered.

“I listened to proposals that were not even close.”

Does Peterson have any concerns about Gonzalez and his return to the team after this disappointment?

“I saw some comments made by Brian Waters and I have to agree with them; I think Tony will be a professional and he’ll handle this the way he’s done everything else, by coming in and working hard,” Peterson said. “I’m sure he’s not happy, but he understood the situation from the start.

“We were not going to just give Tony Gonzalez away. He understood that wasn’t going to happen.”

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SAUTO 10-14-2008 06:39 PM

sound decision IMO. you dont give a TG away

BigVE 10-14-2008 07:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by booger (Post 5116445)
Carl: It Was Never Close
October 14, 2008 - Bob Gretz |


Speaking from St. Petersburg, Florida where the NFL is holding its annual October meetings, Carl Peterson said Tuesday night that a deal for Tony Gonzalez was never close to happening.

“No, it was never close,” Peterson said. “For a player of Tony’s stature I was willing to accomodate something I don’t normally do. I went out to see if there were teams interested in him. I did that and there were very few teams that were interested.

“Tony and his representative (Tom Condon) knew from the start that any deal had to make sense for the Kansas City Chiefs and no one came close. No proposal compared to the value of Tony Gonzalez to the Kansas City Chiefs.”

Peterson incidated that it all came down to three teams that he would not identify. He would not comment on the proposals, but said none of them contained a first-day draft choice (rounds one through three) in compensation.

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I thought only rounds ONE and TWO were on day one now. ? It wasn't likely that TG was going to garner day one picks.

chiefs1111 10-14-2008 07:20 PM

Im not surprised

Ebolapox 10-14-2008 07:22 PM

shocker.

Chiefnj2 10-14-2008 07:26 PM

That would mean Schefter was wrong, or Carl was lying as not to offend Buffalo.

DaKCMan AP 10-14-2008 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by booger (Post 5116445)
Speaking from St. Petersburg, Florida where the NFL is holding its annual October meetings,


Shit.. I wonder where they're being held :hmmm:

StcChief 10-14-2008 07:30 PM

If Shockey gets a 2nd/5th Tony is worth at least a 2nd or 3rd just on that alone.

Thig Lyfe 10-14-2008 07:33 PM

NFL's annual October meetings < Tony Gonzalez's nightly October "meetings"

OnTheWarpath15 10-14-2008 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 5116595)
That would mean Schefter was wrong, or Carl was lying as not to offend Buffalo.

No one offered a 1st or 2nd, which now constitutes a 1st day pick.

Schefter reported that a team offered a 3rd.

So, Carl wasn't lying, and Schefter wasn't wrong.

Chiefnj2 10-14-2008 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 5116635)
No one offered a 1st or 2nd, which now constitutes a 1st day pick.

Schefter reported that a team offered a 3rd.

So, Carl wasn't lying, and Schefter wasn't wrong.

Gretz defined first day pick as rounds 1-3. A 3rd round pick would constitute a first day pick according to Gretz.

"He would not comment on the proposals, but said none of them contained a first-day draft choice (rounds one through three) in compensation."

OnTheWarpath15 10-14-2008 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 5116659)
Gretz defined first day pick as rounds 1-3. A 3rd round pick would constitute a first day pick according to Gretz.

"He would not comment on the proposals, but said none of them contained a first-day draft choice (rounds one through three) in compensation."

And you personally know that Gretz is wrong.

Not sure why you're debating this.

If Carl said that no one offered a first day pick, when a first day pick is considered R1/R2, and Gretz said that CARL said that no one offered a fist day pick then ****ED UP and said that R1/R2/R3 were first day picks, how are you claiming that Carl is a liar?

jspchief 10-14-2008 08:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 5116659)
Gretz defined first day pick as rounds 1-3. A 3rd round pick would constitute a first day pick according to Gretz.

"He would not comment on the proposals, but said none of them contained a first-day draft choice (rounds one through three) in compensation."

It's possible that the error was Gretz's in referring to picks in rnd 1-3 as "first day" picks. I mean we are talking about a change in the draft that has only occured on paper at this point... easy enough to still think of it the old way.

RJ 10-14-2008 08:36 PM

Assuming this account of the events is accurate I believe Carl did the right thing. No sense in giving Tony away, he could be a future contributor or future trade bait.

ArrowheadHawk 10-14-2008 08:51 PM

Croyle is back, we could go on a win streak and make the playoffs. Or not.


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