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DJ's left nut 10-26-2008 08:53 AM

The coaches that players would most like to play for...
 
The NFL Network just announced some of the results of a fairly comprehensive study regarding player/coach relationships.

The coaches that players would most like to play for.

Tony Dungy
Lovie Smith
Bill Belichick
Herm Edwards
Mike Tomlin

Least like to play for

Tom Coughlin
Eric Mangini
Jon Gruden
Bobby Petrino
Bill Belichick

Now the obvious: In a league that is 70% black, 4 of 5 coaches named are African American...including the worst coach in football. Take Herm off that list and I guess you could ignore it, but Herm (and Lovie to a lesser degree) make the race issue fairly obvious. Nobody wanted to address it until the very end when one of the studio guys asked Faulk about it. Faulk said he agrees that as a black player, he trusted black coaches more in that he felt they were more likely to have his back. Sapp just said "I second that" and sat there all smug.

Now you look at the 'hated' list. Petrino is a throwaway name, IMO. Nobody wants to play for a lying, job hunting jackass. Toss out Belichick as well as he's on both lists (but notice he had to win 3 SBs to get there...) So you have 3 other guys that are seen as disciplinarians...2 have a SB ring and the 3rd is very new, but has shown some ability (certainly more than the guy he replaced...on the 'like' list). In the top list, only Dungy has won a SB, though I like Tomlin's prospects.

It appears to me that whether or not a player 'wants' to play for a coach is almost wholly irrelevant to whether or not a team will perform for him. I hope our next coach is of the ball buster variety. I'm tired of players coaches. It seems all players end up finding something to bitch about at some point anyway.

boogblaster 10-26-2008 08:58 AM

A player's coach, as Herm is, doesn't work if the inmates are running the asylum ...

Coach 10-26-2008 08:58 AM

This has to be a flawed statistical, as it is clearly obvious to everybody that this team has given up on Herm Edwards, and wouldn't want to play for.

Oh, and the NFL Network isn't a very credible source to perform this theory.

RealSNR 10-26-2008 09:01 AM

I'm noticing a trend here...

Coaches that players like to play for are the ones you DON'T want running your team

FringeNC 10-26-2008 09:02 AM

Suggests to me the most NFL players don't care about winning.

Bugeater 10-26-2008 09:04 AM

Of course they want to play for Herm, they know they can dog it under him and there will be no repercussions.

DJ's left nut 10-26-2008 09:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coach (Post 5152243)
This has to be a flawed statistical, as it is clearly obvious to everybody that this team has given up on Herm Edwards, and wouldn't want to play for.

Oh, and the NFL Network isn't a very credible source to perform this theory.

It wasn't an NFL Network study, it was an NFL sanctioned study that was done by the University of Pennsylvania.

Like I said, players find a way to bitch. Every one of those guys that is saying he wants to play for Herm would've quit on the guy by now. So called players coaches are useless.

'Hamas' Jenkins 10-26-2008 09:10 AM

Of course people want to work for a boss who doesn't bust their balls...especially when their contracts aren't guaranteed.

Doesn't change the fact that Herm can't and shouldn't coach anything.

Bob Dole 10-26-2008 09:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bugeater (Post 5152252)
Of course they want to play for Herm, they know they can dog it under him and there will be no repercussions.

QFT.

KCrockaholic 10-26-2008 09:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SNR (Post 5152247)
I'm noticing a trend here...

Coaches that players like to play for are the ones you DON'T want running your team

except Mike Tomlin, thats a good coach

'Hamas' Jenkins 10-26-2008 09:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kcrockaholic4life (Post 5152326)
except Mike Tomlin, thats a good coach

A defensive guy who let the OC install a scheme that best fit his players and who hasn't ****ed with the 3-4 that has worked just b/c he's a Cover 2 guy.

He couldn't be any more different from Herm :(

dj56dt58 10-26-2008 11:35 AM

**** Herm


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